Intel HD graphics 2500 vs 3000/4000?

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anyone knows how the HD 2500 compares to the 3000 and 4000? I'm mostly looking for improved video transcoding compared to my Pentium G620 and don't really need the "gaming" graphics capabilities. But I haven't been able to find any information as to how the HD 2500 compares.

The fact that 2500 < 3000 is not really a good sign though...
 

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the 3000 and 4000 are pretty superior of course the actual speed they function at will depend on which intel cpu it's paired with.
From what I've seen they actually are superior to even some of the higher dollar dedicated graphics cards in the way of transcoding. (if you are a gamer you would want to consider the dedicated, but if all you want is transcoding you are good)

However, you will only get the benefit if the software you are using supports the new quick sync features.
Intel® Quick Sync Video

In the instances where your software does support the features the 3k and 4k are twice as fast easily...
 

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I'm mostly wondering about how the 2500 compares, as the i5-3450(2.5k) is ~$30 cheaper than the i5-3570K(4k)

All I know is it'll be a little bit better than the HD 2000, but not as great as the 4000. I have no idea how it compares to the 3000, as while it has the new architecture with DX11 it has half the EUs of the 4000.
 

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I understood your only real concern to be video transcoding. If you intend to do any heavy 3d applications, you really are going to want a dedicated graphics card.
 

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Maguscreed said:
I understood your only real concern to be video transcoding. If you intend to do any heavy 3d applications, you really are going to want a dedicated graphics card.
Click to expand...

Pretty much, but I'm half deaf so I need subtitles, and I'm not entirely sure how that works into the figure. On my Pentium G620 1080p videos are a bit judderry. With Shark007 I can theoretically stream mkv's to my Xbox (via WMC) with subtitles inserted, but my G620 can't handle that AT ALL.

I am a bit confused as to how much of what I do can Quick Sync handle, and doesn't require the extra 8 EUs of the HD 4000 graphics.
 

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Well the G620 in and of itself, is not a bad chip
It just doesn't handle graphics the same way.

I do believe you should be able to play 1080p video without any real problems though.
So maybe we should look a little more closely at that problem.
Does it happen no matter what player you use?

Here's a good free one that doesn't rely on windows codecs for video playback, so I often recommend it for troubleshooting things like this. (and who knows you might wind up liking it.)
VideoLAN - Official page for VLC media player, the Open Source video framework!

If you play the video through it do you get the same problem?
Do let it play for a few minutes.
 

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I can't tell, as the main problem is burning in subtitles in real time while encoding to stream to an Xbox. Haven't yet figured out how to do that in VLC yet.
 

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I don't think the Xbox 360 will run XBMC...
 

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Doesn't seem as easy and convenient as WMC Extender, nor does it seem to support subtitles.
 

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Well unfortunately I do not have a xbox360 here to test on. Hopefully someone else will have something for you...
It could conceivably even be a network cable problem.
I still hold that a dual core over 2ghz should be able to manage the stream though.
 

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NZXT Phantom + additional 220 fan
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Now that some of the CPU's have arrived, has anyone done any comparisons yet?

Notebookcheck.net seems to rate it better than the HD 3000 except in one case where the additional EUs make a difference.
 

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ATI Radeon X1600 with 128MB GDDR3 memory
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17-inch TFT active-matrix LCD, millions of colors
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1440 x 900
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yeah a couple of percentage points across the board for a price premium.
 

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Intel i7 2600k
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Asrock z68 extreme 4 gen 3
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Nvidia gtx580 (evga)
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Integrated HD audio + hdmi
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24" ASUS widescreen + 42" insignia
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1080p (1920x1080)
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128 Samsung 830
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1 western digital 1tb (eSATA)
1 Seagate 1tb (eSATA)
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1 kilowatt SLI/Crossfire rated Silverstone modular
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NZXT Phantom + additional 220 fan
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Microsoft wireless 3000 (v2)
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MS - wireless 5000 (bluetrack)
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depends on if you ask me or my provider.
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I wouldn't say i's too much more expensive... According to Newegg the cheapest i5 with HD 3000 is $224 while the cheapest i5 Ivy is $199. And it's definitely better than HD 2000
 

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Windows 8 Pro (32-bit)1.83GHz Intel Core Duo2GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM (PC2-5300) (upgrade)ATI Radeon X1600 with 128MB GDDR3 memory
Computer type
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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Apple 17" iMac MA199LL (Early 2006)
OS
Windows 8 Pro (32-bit)
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1.83GHz Intel Core Duo
Memory
2GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM (PC2-5300) (upgrade)
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon X1600 with 128MB GDDR3 memory
Monitor(s) Displays
17-inch TFT active-matrix LCD, millions of colors
Screen Resolution
1440 x 900
Hard Drives
Hitachi 320GB HDT721032SLA360 7200RPM SATA II (upgrade)
Keyboard
Microsoft Wired Keyboard 600
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Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse v2.0
Internet Speed
4 Mbps
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials
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Google Chrome
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WEI:
Base Score: 3.9 Processor: 4.4 Memory 4.7
Graphics: 3.9 Gaming Graphics: 4.1 Primary HD: 5.9
HD 4000 to ensure my system runs fine.
 

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Windows 8 Pro (32-bit)1.83GHz Intel Core Duo2GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM (PC2-5300) (upgrade)ATI Radeon X1600 with 128MB GDDR3 memory
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Apple 17" iMac MA199LL (Early 2006)
OS
Windows 8 Pro (32-bit)
CPU
1.83GHz Intel Core Duo
Memory
2GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM (PC2-5300) (upgrade)
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon X1600 with 128MB GDDR3 memory
Monitor(s) Displays
17-inch TFT active-matrix LCD, millions of colors
Screen Resolution
1440 x 900
Hard Drives
Hitachi 320GB HDT721032SLA360 7200RPM SATA II (upgrade)
Keyboard
Microsoft Wired Keyboard 600
Mouse
Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse v2.0
Internet Speed
4 Mbps
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials
Browser
Google Chrome
Other Info
WEI:
Base Score: 3.9 Processor: 4.4 Memory 4.7
Graphics: 3.9 Gaming Graphics: 4.1 Primary HD: 5.9
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