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Windows 7: gt 525 problem with CAD/CAM/CAE on Inspiron 5110


17 Jul 2012   #1

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gt 525 problem with CAD/CAM/CAE on Inspiron 5110

Hello!

I've recently acquired that Dell's notebook - Inspiron 5110 - with GT525M on board. It has excellent performance for its price, recent games fly on this hardware... but the true reason of taking the notebook was need for powerful workhorse for 3D CAD/CAM/CAE and design systems. And there was a pitfall - some specialized things and Autodesk 3ds max refused to work correctly.

3ds viewports were full of glitches - they flickered, showed picture from another viewports, were very slow - until I enabled OpenGL renderer for viewports. Of course, I have desire for 'Nitrous' and DX thing...

CADs gave me a slideshow. On previous computer those CADs' performance was smooth. On small assemblies. Therefore I needed an something more powerful. But performance on new one was so slow that I preferred a simple pencil to it.

The Nvidia drivers are latest - I played with it settings for preferred graphics card (since this Dell has Intel graphics chip on board) - but nothing changed.

Do anybody know the solution?


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19 Jul 2012   #2

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by detorio View Post
Hello!

I've recently acquired that Dell's notebook - Inspiron 5110 - with GT525M on board. It has excellent performance for its price, recent games fly on this hardware... but the true reason of taking the notebook was need for powerful workhorse for 3D CAD/CAM/CAE and design systems. And there was a pitfall - some specialized things and Autodesk 3ds max refused to work correctly.

3ds viewports were full of glitches - they flickered, showed picture from another viewports, were very slow - until I enabled OpenGL renderer for viewports. Of course, I have desire for 'Nitrous' and DX thing...

CADs gave me a slideshow. On previous computer those CADs' performance was smooth. On small assemblies. Therefore I needed an something more powerful. But performance on new one was so slow that I preferred a simple pencil to it.

The Nvidia drivers are latest - I played with it settings for preferred graphics card (since this Dell has Intel graphics chip on board) - but nothing changed.

Do anybody know the solution?
hi,

your laptop should have:

2nd generation Intel Core i3 with HT technology
Nvidia GeForce GT525 1GB DDR3
4GB DDR3

Don't expect to have a "powerful workhorse for 3D CAD/CAM/CAE and design systems"... Games could run fine at medium-high graphics settings on this laptop because of the Core i3 and the dedicated graphics card, and the low resolution which your screen supports (should be 1366x768).... but this isn't a powerful workhorse for 3D.
On my opinion, a nice laptop/desktop for 3D modeling should have at least a real quad core CPU (no 2 core + HT), a medium-range dedicated GPU with GDDR5 RAM and more than 4 GB of RAM, especially if you run Windows 7 64bit.

However, the programs should run at an acceptable speed on your laptop. Have you checked if are you using the Nvidia GPU instead of the Intel integrated GPU when you use 3D software? some laptop switch the GPUs only if a program is running at fullscreen (like games)... check it out, it happened to me with an old ACER.
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19 Jul 2012   #3

 

well, here is antoher point of view. YOur laptop as decked out as it might be for gaming is not a WORKHORSE.

Video cards for RENDERING 3D animation and pictures are not done on GAME CARDS. mainly the ram alotment and CPU set up for GAMES not RENDERING.
See a list of RENDERING cards like Matrox. There are Specific video cards for that task. It is true your Core processor should be of multy core and Hyper. AMD and Intel both make suitable processors for RENDERING ( differant than a game machine again please google this) But generally speaking. A good ole desktop with the proper gear will do your work at least 50% faster than any laptop could ever dream. sure its not as cool to sit in the local coffee shop on wifi doing art work but.. for performance and results ya cant beat it. Google RENDERING video cards. Not to mention .. the actually software you use to render, does it like your laptop? How does it perfom on other types of machines ( other aptops and desktops) many things tolook at and to consider. Ive beuilt loads of studio machines and rendering boxes, to game rigs over the years. Specific intent is needed one a "custom" machine.
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19 Jul 2012   #4

Win 7 x64 basic
 
 

Thanks for answers. But 1) it's Core i5 (quad core), RAM 8G (maybe some revise of 5110) 2) I know, it could work at least twice faster than Samsung notebook with Core 2 Duo, 512MB free RAM, 256MB internal graphics on rendering cases. Desktop is not an option, as also custom machine - not 'cause coffee shop (it's not an option too... Russia it is XD).

Games, from other side, are always rendering something, too - just in real time with some significant simplifies in ways of processing video. And they are flying at max settings (although I hadn't tried somewhat like Crysis).

From 3rd side, Studio Max uses just the same way as games for scene and model prototyping - as uses other software. The version I have isn't glitching on above mentioned Samsung note (one of R45+ variants).

I have a suspicion, that drivers are guilty - but are the alternative ones good enough? And do they exist at all? (hadn't googled it yet)

I believe there should be a way to force videocard to work correctly, I just don't know, how.

P.S. About 'workhorse' again. I didn't mentioned full workstation of 3d designer, I just need something that can smoothly visualize assamblies with 100-500 components. It's not too high, for example, that is little walker bot assembly, or half of internal combustion engine.
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20 Jul 2012   #5

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by detorio View Post
Thanks for answers. But 1) it's Core i5 (quad core), RAM 8G (maybe some revise of 5110) 2) I know, it could work at least twice faster than Samsung notebook with Core 2 Duo, 512MB free RAM, 256MB internal graphics on rendering cases. Desktop is not an option, as also custom machine - not 'cause coffee shop (it's not an option too... Russia it is XD).

Games, from other side, are always rendering something, too - just in real time with some significant simplifies in ways of processing video. And they are flying at max settings (although I hadn't tried somewhat like Crysis).

From 3rd side, Studio Max uses just the same way as games for scene and model prototyping - as uses other software. The version I have isn't glitching on above mentioned Samsung note (one of R45+ variants).

I have a suspicion, that drivers are guilty - but are the alternative ones good enough? And do they exist at all? (hadn't googled it yet)

I believe there should be a way to force videocard to work correctly, I just don't know, how.

P.S. About 'workhorse' again. I didn't mentioned full workstation of 3d designer, I just need something that can smoothly visualize assamblies with 100-500 components. It's not too high, for example, that is little walker bot assembly, or half of internal combustion engine.
With Intel Core i5 and 8GB of RAM the laptop sholud be fine (i hope that the i5 is a quad-core and not a dual-core HT...)
Try installing a previous Nvidia driver
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