| Windows 7: Radeon HD 7770 1GB or GTX 650 2GB |
12 Dec 2012
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#1 | | |
Radeon HD 7770 1GB or GTX 650 2GB Hi guys. I am plannig to upgrade my graphics card. Initially I was set on buying the GTX 650 2 GB DDR5 as I have always used Nvidia cards. But searching the net, I saw that the Radeon HD 7770 has a higher benchmark. So now I am having second thoughts. Should I go for the 1 GB Radeon card or the 2 GB GTX card? The are almost in the same price range. Is the difference of 1 GB memory going to be too great a factor? And how regularly does AMD update its drivers?
Thanks in advance.
N.B. The present power supply of my PC is not a factor. I will be changing that too. | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Assembled OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU AMD Athlon 7750 X2 Motherboard MSI K96PGM2-V Memory 4GB DDR2 Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce 9500gt PSU Foxin 450W Hard Drives Seagate 500GB |
12 Dec 2012
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#2 | | Windows 7 Professional SP1 64bit |
HD 7770 seems to be a little faster than the GTX 650, but the Nvidia card has got 2GB GDDR5. Also Nvidia supports PhysX, has a better 3D vision, has got better drivers and they are updated very often.
I hate AMD cards because I owned a few of them and ALL of them gave me problems (9600PRO AGP, HD 3450 AGP, X1650SE, HD 5670, HD 4870x2).
If you can, go for a GTX 650 Ti... If you can't, go for the GTX 650... Also 2GB of GDDR5 memory are really better than 1GB, especially if you use high resolutions and high settings in games. 1GB are not enough to run some games decently... | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built desktop OS Windows 7 Professional SP1 64bit CPU Intel Core i7 3770K Ivy Bridge @4GHz HT (8MB L3) Motherboard Asus P8Z77-V Memory Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 16GB DDR3-1600 (4x4GB) Graphics Card Gigabyte GeForce GTX 690 (4GB GDDR5) Sound Card Realtek ALC 892 7.1 Channel High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays 3x Samsung SyncMaster 204B Screen Resolution 4800x1200 (Nvidia Surround) Keyboard Microsoft Internet Ps/2 Keyboard RT9443 Mouse Microsoft X08-18741 Wheel Mouse Optical USB PSU LC-Power Metatron LC1000 Legion-X2 1000W Case MidiTower ATX Cooler Master Silencio 550 (RC-550-KKN1) Cooling Cooler Master Hyper TX3 EVO Hard Drives SSD OCZ Vertex 4 128GB (SATA3) -
SEAGATE Barracuda 2TB ST2000DM001 (64MB cache, 7200rpm, SATA3) Internet Speed Download: 1.2 MB/s effective Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Google Chrome Other Info 2nd pc: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 Yorkfield @3GHz / Asus P5Q Pro / 7GB DDR2 Dual Channel @800 MHz / PNY GeForce GTS 450 XLR8 (1GB GDDR5) / 120GB SSD / NILOX 600W
/// 3rd pc: Acer Travelmate 2500 / Intel Pentium 4 Northwood @2.80GHz / 1GB DDR @400MHz / Ati Mobility Radeon 9000 IGP (64MB shared) |
12 Dec 2012
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Service Pack 1 Doncaster, UK |
When I was looking at graphics cards for my new build, I considered the GTX 650 (or variants thereof). What put me off was the fact that I'd got a motherboard that was capable of supporting multiple graphics cards and I was fully intending to make use of it. Although I have exclusively used NVidia cards in the past, I switched over to AMD for my current system. If the GTX 650 supported SLI (there isn't even an SLI connector on the card - Big, Big mistake NVidia), then I almost certainly would have stuck with NVidia instead of switching to AMD. I must admit that cost also played a part. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Dwarf Dwf/11/2012 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Service Pack 1 CPU Intel Core-i5-3570K 4-core @ 3.4GHz (Ivy Bridge) (OC 4.2GHz) Motherboard ASRock Z77 Extreme4-M Memory 4 x 4GB DDR3-1600 Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B (16GB) Graphics Card 2 x AMD Radeon HD7770 1GB CrossFired (OC 1100MHz/1250MHz) Sound Card Realtek High Definition on board solution (ALC 898) Monitor(s) Displays ViewSonic VA1912w Widescreen (VGA) Screen Resolution 1440x900 Keyboard Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 3000 (USB) Mouse Microsoft Comfort Mouse 3000 for Business (USB) PSU XFX Pro Series 850W Semi-Modular Case Gigabyte IF233 Cooling 1 x 120mm Front Inlet 1 x 120mm Rear Exhaust Hard Drives OCZ Agility 3 SSD 120GB SATA III x2 (RAID 0)
Samsung HD501LJ 500GB SATA II x2
Hitachi HDS721010CLA332 1TB SATA II
Iomega 1.5TB Ext USB 2.0
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CTF-430 Tablet & Pen
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Asus Eee PC 1011PX Netbook (Windows 7 x86 Starter) |
12 Dec 2012
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#4 | | Windows 7 Professional SP1 64bit |
since his motherboard have only 1 Pci Express slot, and since you have got an AMD Athlon 7750 X2 CPU and 4GB DDR2 RAM, any card up to a GTX 650 will be a waste... So, in my opinion a GTX 650 would be perfect for his rig. SLI/Crossfire with this harware is impossible, and I suggest you to get a single fast GPU than 2 mid range GPUs in SLI/Crossfire.
But I agree with Dwarf, GTX 650 doesn't support SLI (and this is very strange, since all mid-range GeForce GPUs supported SLI in the past, like GTX 550 Ti, GTS 450, GTS 250...) and this is really a bad thing... But since the HD 7770 has only 1GB RAM, I really suggest you to go for Nvidia.
I thik in your system, a single GTX 650 will be the better choice since you can't use more multi GPU technology. And, probably a GTX 650 will be a waste, because of your CPU. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built desktop OS Windows 7 Professional SP1 64bit CPU Intel Core i7 3770K Ivy Bridge @4GHz HT (8MB L3) Motherboard Asus P8Z77-V Memory Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 16GB DDR3-1600 (4x4GB) Graphics Card Gigabyte GeForce GTX 690 (4GB GDDR5) Sound Card Realtek ALC 892 7.1 Channel High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays 3x Samsung SyncMaster 204B Screen Resolution 4800x1200 (Nvidia Surround) Keyboard Microsoft Internet Ps/2 Keyboard RT9443 Mouse Microsoft X08-18741 Wheel Mouse Optical USB PSU LC-Power Metatron LC1000 Legion-X2 1000W Case MidiTower ATX Cooler Master Silencio 550 (RC-550-KKN1) Cooling Cooler Master Hyper TX3 EVO Hard Drives SSD OCZ Vertex 4 128GB (SATA3) -
SEAGATE Barracuda 2TB ST2000DM001 (64MB cache, 7200rpm, SATA3) Internet Speed Download: 1.2 MB/s effective Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Google Chrome Other Info 2nd pc: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 Yorkfield @3GHz / Asus P5Q Pro / 7GB DDR2 Dual Channel @800 MHz / PNY GeForce GTS 450 XLR8 (1GB GDDR5) / 120GB SSD / NILOX 600W
/// 3rd pc: Acer Travelmate 2500 / Intel Pentium 4 Northwood @2.80GHz / 1GB DDR @400MHz / Ati Mobility Radeon 9000 IGP (64MB shared) |
12 Dec 2012
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x86 Merthyr Tydfil, Wales |
Since he said he is upgrading the psu he might also be upgrading his cpu so he may aswell be ready for the future even i he dosnt upgrade right now | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Packard Bell iMedia 2218 -- Has Been Running For Almost 7 Years! OS Windows 7 Ultimate x86 CPU Intel Pentium D 925 @ 3.00GHz Motherboard Socket 775 MCP73VT-PM Memory 1GB DDR2 667MHz Graphics Card Overclocked Asus ATI Radeon X1600 Pro 512MB Sound Card Sound Blaster Audigy 570 Monitor(s) Displays 19" LCD Monitor; MW19E-AAA Screen Resolution 1440 x 900 Keyboard Wired PS/2 Keyboard Mouse Dell Wireless USB Mouse PSU 250w Packard Bell Standard Case Packard Bell standard Cooling Intel Socket 775 Air Cooler Hard Drives 500gb 7200rpm (Windows 7) ---
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12 Dec 2012
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#6 | | |
The Nvidia cards have a better cycle on drivers. Have a ATI/AMD in my wife's computer works well although she doesn't do much with it. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number clone OS Windows 7 Premium 64 bit CPU AMD Phenom II X4 965 Motherboard Asus M4A785-M Memory 4 GB Graphics Card Galaxy GTX 560 Ti Sound Card onboard Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 22 LCD Screen Resolution 1680X1050 PSU 450 Watt Case std Cooling std Hard Drives Seagate ST3500320AS
Seagate ST3750640AS |
13 Dec 2012
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#7 | | Windows 7 Professional SP1 64bit |
If you are keeping this computer, go for the GTX 650 2GB.
If you are planning a major system update (new CPU, motherboard and RAM), get a single more powerful GPU, and avoid SLI/Crossfire in mid-end cards. A single fast GPU is a lot better than 2 mid-end GPUs, since a lot of programs won't use them (for example, all the Need For Speed games don't support multi GPU rendering).
Example: instead of 2 HD 7770, get an HD 7950, which is really a better choice. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built desktop OS Windows 7 Professional SP1 64bit CPU Intel Core i7 3770K Ivy Bridge @4GHz HT (8MB L3) Motherboard Asus P8Z77-V Memory Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 16GB DDR3-1600 (4x4GB) Graphics Card Gigabyte GeForce GTX 690 (4GB GDDR5) Sound Card Realtek ALC 892 7.1 Channel High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays 3x Samsung SyncMaster 204B Screen Resolution 4800x1200 (Nvidia Surround) Keyboard Microsoft Internet Ps/2 Keyboard RT9443 Mouse Microsoft X08-18741 Wheel Mouse Optical USB PSU LC-Power Metatron LC1000 Legion-X2 1000W Case MidiTower ATX Cooler Master Silencio 550 (RC-550-KKN1) Cooling Cooler Master Hyper TX3 EVO Hard Drives SSD OCZ Vertex 4 128GB (SATA3) -
SEAGATE Barracuda 2TB ST2000DM001 (64MB cache, 7200rpm, SATA3) Internet Speed Download: 1.2 MB/s effective Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Google Chrome Other Info 2nd pc: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 Yorkfield @3GHz / Asus P5Q Pro / 7GB DDR2 Dual Channel @800 MHz / PNY GeForce GTS 450 XLR8 (1GB GDDR5) / 120GB SSD / NILOX 600W
/// 3rd pc: Acer Travelmate 2500 / Intel Pentium 4 Northwood @2.80GHz / 1GB DDR @400MHz / Ati Mobility Radeon 9000 IGP (64MB shared) |
13 Dec 2012
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#8 | | Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Auckland, New Zealand |
I personally use a 7770 HD. Its fast and reliable and compared to the 650 uses Graphics Core Next. Great for people who want to power save when idle.
If you have an AMD setup (amd cpu + mobo) it works great together! for gaming its mind blowing! Mass Effect 3 (2012) 60 fps with max resolution and settings! not even a single drop in fps. And battlefield 3 works great! 60 FPS at 1920x1080 on ultra. I get a few fps drops in the game when physics (being handled by the cpu) are at work. My CPU is now the bottleneck of the system.
Its a great card! If u want nvidia and your budget allows I would personally (im a effing nerd at this gaming stuff) recommend the Nvidia 670. It has the BEST performance per dollar (compared to 690 680 7970 and 7870.)
good luck | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number CGR Watsonator Custom rig OS Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium x64 CPU AMG Athlon II X2 255 3.1/2MB/2000MHz 45nm AM3 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA78LMT-S2 AM3, 760G, Ultra Durable 3, M-ATX Memory 2X 4GB Kingston DDR3 1066MHz @ 1600MHz Dual Channel Graphics Card HIS HD Radeon 7770 GHz Edition iCooler Core: 1000MHz Sound Card Genius Sound Maker Value 5.1 Monitor(s) Displays Dell E2311H DVI/VGA 5ms response, 1080p Screen Resolution 1920x1080 @ 60Hz Keyboard Logitech K120 Wired Keyboard Mouse Logitech K120 Wired Mouse PSU Cooler Master eXtreme Power Plus 700w Case Lian-Li PC-6010 With Side Window Cooling Aywun A4 80mm fan Hard Drives Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 16MB Cache 7200rpm SATA III Internet Speed 802.11N 300Mbps+ ADSL2+ Max 12.12Mbps Other Info Speakers: Logitech LS21 2.1 Satellites + Sub woofer
AMD Catalyst 12.11 BETA
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GAME PERFORMANCE:
Battlefield 3: 41 FPS Ultra 1x AA @ 1980x1080
Mass Effect 2 and 3: 60 FPS Highest 4x AA @ 1920x1080
Counter Strike Source (and other Valve games):
300 FPS (max FPS in game) Highest settings 8x AA 16x AF @ 1920x1080!!! |
13 Dec 2012
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#9 | | |
Thanks guys for all the reply. I will actually be going for a new mobo and cpu (amd also) in the near future, say 4-5 months. But right now, I only will change the psu and gpu. And I don't intend to use SLI/Crossfire in the future. Single gpu is good enough for me. And the cards in the price range of GTX 650 and Radeon 7770 are the ones I can afford at present. That's why I am wondering which one to go for.
@Dorado: I couldn't understand what you meant by GTX 650 will be a waste because of my cpu. Can you please explain a bit? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Assembled OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU AMD Athlon 7750 X2 Motherboard MSI K96PGM2-V Memory 4GB DDR2 Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce 9500gt PSU Foxin 450W Hard Drives Seagate 500GB |
13 Dec 2012
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#10 | | Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Auckland, New Zealand |

Quote: Originally Posted by ajd112 @Dorado: I couldn't understand what you meant by GTX 650 will be a waste because of my cpu. Can you please explain a bit? I think what he is trying to say is your CPU will be the bottleneck of the system. Meaning with the 650 will not utilize its power as the CPU is limiting its rendering because it is now the slower component.
In short:
Bottlenecking is when the system not being able to optimum levels because one (or more) components are holding it back. In this case I believe he means your CPU.
Either that he wants the opposite and thinks you should get a better card. but most likely he is talking about the bottleneck
HOPE I HELPED!       | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number CGR Watsonator Custom rig OS Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium x64 CPU AMG Athlon II X2 255 3.1/2MB/2000MHz 45nm AM3 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA78LMT-S2 AM3, 760G, Ultra Durable 3, M-ATX Memory 2X 4GB Kingston DDR3 1066MHz @ 1600MHz Dual Channel Graphics Card HIS HD Radeon 7770 GHz Edition iCooler Core: 1000MHz Sound Card Genius Sound Maker Value 5.1 Monitor(s) Displays Dell E2311H DVI/VGA 5ms response, 1080p Screen Resolution 1920x1080 @ 60Hz Keyboard Logitech K120 Wired Keyboard Mouse Logitech K120 Wired Mouse PSU Cooler Master eXtreme Power Plus 700w Case Lian-Li PC-6010 With Side Window Cooling Aywun A4 80mm fan Hard Drives Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 16MB Cache 7200rpm SATA III Internet Speed 802.11N 300Mbps+ ADSL2+ Max 12.12Mbps Other Info Speakers: Logitech LS21 2.1 Satellites + Sub woofer
AMD Catalyst 12.11 BETA
Linksys x2000 Dual Band Wireless N 300Mbps ADSL2+
LiteON CD/DVD Player
GAME PERFORMANCE:
Battlefield 3: 41 FPS Ultra 1x AA @ 1980x1080
Mass Effect 2 and 3: 60 FPS Highest 4x AA @ 1920x1080
Counter Strike Source (and other Valve games):
300 FPS (max FPS in game) Highest settings 8x AA 16x AF @ 1920x1080!!! Radeon HD 7770 1GB or GTX 650 2GB problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:57 AM. | |