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Windows 7: New Video Card Drivers work in Vista but not Windows 7 Dual Boot.


13 Dec 2012   #1

Windows 7 Pro, Ubuntu, Android ICS
 
 
New Video Card Drivers work in Vista but not Windows 7 Dual Boot.

I just purchased a new video card for my old Acer M3100 that I dual boot the original Vista and Windows 7 on. I bought a new Asus Nvidia GeForce GT 610 video card to play Skyrim. Windows 7 will install the drivers with absolutely no error messages but upon rebooting they won't load and I'm stuck with basic VGA. I booted out and back to Vista and loaded them and they installed fine as well and upon rebooting into Vista they actually load! My Windows 7 install is a recent clean install because I tried upgrading to Windows 8 and didn't do a clean install and it borked itself on all my legacy hardware. Does anyone know why a clean install won't load new video card drivers but my old Vista install loads them fine? (Yet another reason not to abandon the Vista Beast, Vista is the last OS that recognizes my (2) Rio Karma MP3 Players.)

Before anyone asks, Yes. I downloaded the latest drivers for Windows 7 Pro 64Bit directly from Nvidias website and installed them and still get a "No GPU detected" message when trying to run the NVidia software that comes with the drivers.

NVidia Driver Version: 306.97


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13 Dec 2012   #2

 

Hi, try to update your motherboard drivers....

Also post your complete pc specification please.
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13 Dec 2012   #3

Windows 7 Pro, Ubuntu, Android ICS
 
 

The Specs from their website:

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Aspire M3100 Specifications

Part Number: AspireM3100 Acer Aspire M3100 Desktop Series

FeatureDescription:
Processor AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 dual-core processor
Cache depending on CPU
Memory 3 GB DDR2 533/667/800 MHz SDRAM (dual-channel support on four DIMMs)
BIOS Flash BIOS Supported
Protocols PCIX 1.0, PCI 2.2, APM 1.2, VESA/DPMS (VBE/PM V1.1), SMBIOS 2.3,
E-IDE 1.1, ACPI 1.0b, ESCD 1.03, PnP 1.0a, Bootable CD-ROM 1.0,
USB, 1.1~USB2.0
System Chipset:
AMD 690V + SB600I/O
Controller Hub:
ITE8718F
Expansion Slots:
1 PCI Express® x16 slot
1 PCI Express® x1 slot
2 PCI v2.3 (5 V) slots
Audio:
Integrated Realtek ALC888-GR, colayered with ALC883 Realtek ALC888 high-definition audio with 7.1-channel audio support
S/PDIF (Sony/Phillips Digital Interface on selected models)
Speakers:
Optional on selected models
Video:
ATI Radeon™ X1200 graphics solution, supporting:
Interlaced and non-interlaced displays, Maximum resolution of 2048 x1536 @ 32bpp, Full DirectX 9.0, 3D Texture, including projective 3D texture, OpenGL format for Indirect Vertices in Vertex Walker

PCI Express® X16 graphic card supported

Storage Super MultiPlus, DVD/CD-RW Combo

Serial ATA hard disk up to 400 GB (varies by model)

Multi-in-one Card Reader supporting CompactFlash® (Type I and II), IBM Microdrive, xD-Picture Card™ (xD), Secure Digital (SD), SmartMedia™, MultiMediaCard (MMC), Memory Stick® (MS), Memory Stick PRO™ (MS PRO) (selected models)

Modem 56K ITU V.92, Wake-on-Ring ready

Networking Integrated Marvell 88E8056 Gigabit (RJ-45 LAN connector)

Ports Rear: 1 PS/2 Keyboard port, 1 PS/2 Mouse port, 1 Parallel port, 4 USB 2.0 ports, 1 VGA port, 1 IEEE 1394 port (6-pin), and 6 audio ports
Front: 4 USB 2.0 ports, High-definition headphone and microphone jacksEnvironmental
  • Temperature:
Operating: +5oC ~+35oC
Non-operating: -10oC ~ +60oC
  • Relative Humidity:
Operating: 15% - 80% RH Non-condensing
Non-Operating Storage: 10% - 90% RH, Non-condensing at 40° C
  • Maximum Vibration:
Operating: 5 ~ 16.2Hz: 0.38mm (peak to peak) 16.2 ~ 250Hz; 0.2G
Non-Operating Storage: 5 ~ 27.1Hz: 0.6G 27.1 ~ 50Hz; 0.4mm (peak to peak) 50 ~ 500Hz: 2GChassis Desktop, 7.2" (183mm) W x 17.5" (445mm) D x 14.5" (370mm) H
Power Supply:
Industry Standard 250 Watt
Operating System:
Windows Vista™ Home Premium
I've replaced the modem with a 4 Port USB 2.0 PCI card (Who uses modems these days?!?) The video card I've put into the 1 PCI Express® x16 slot is an Asus Geforce GT 610 with 2Gigs DDR3 PCIE 2.0 card. I've replaced the original 250 watt power supply with a 480 watt power supply and I've upgraded the ram from 3Gigs to the max 8 Gigs.

Their support pages last updated drivers are from 2008 (Which tells you how ancient this PC really is.) I guess I should consider myself lucky that the Vista OS recognizes the new card and let it go but it's just weird that the old OS see's the GPU and the two newer ones don't even though they don't pop any errors when installing the drivers.
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14 Dec 2012   #4

 

try to uninstall ALL drivers in Windows 7, then reboot, let windows install the basic driver, then uninstall it, download the lastest stable version of Nvidia Drivers (no beta!) and it should work. If it doesn't work, try a beta driver.
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14 Dec 2012   #5

Windows 7 Pro, Ubuntu, Android ICS
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dorado View Post
try to uninstall ALL drivers in Windows 7, then reboot, let windows install the basic driver, then uninstall it, download the lastest stable version of Nvidia Drivers (no beta!) and it should work. If it doesn't work, try a beta driver.
I don't think it's a driver issue at this point since both Windows 7 Pro & 8 Pro are behaving the same way. Thanks for the advice though. I think it's a hardware issue that both OS's can't deal with. Possibly some conflict with the On Board ATI VGA on the motherboard.

Both OS's are complete clean installs and both don't give errors when installing the drivers and both say there is no Nvidia GPU in the system after the drivers were installed with no errors. It might be that they aren't getting enough power through the PCIX 16 slot for the newer OS's to see the GPU's but the old Vista isn't as finicky and loads the drivers anyway?

I'm just guessing at this point but uninstalling every driver and reinstalling them doesn't sound like it's going to solve anything considering they're both new clean installed OS's. I do like Windows 8 MultiBoot log in screen though! Nice GUI with mouse access to all three OS's.

I also just ordered a new PCIE 1X Ethernet card to use since both OS's can't deal with the legacy network drivers on the motherboard either. The USB Wifi solution is too slow for my taste.
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14 Dec 2012   #6

 

When you installed your Nvidia card, have you completly uninstalled your onboard ATI card and have you disabled it?

Sometimes drivers fails to install properly. Retry a clean installation of them.
Remove all ATI drivers before installing Nvidia ones! Drivers can conflict and create issues. Have you completly removed ATI drivers before installing the Nvidia card?
Also, if it is an integrated ATI card, after installing your Nvidia GT 610, go in computer's BIOS and disable the integrated GPU.

The GT 610 is full compatible with Windows 7 and Windows 8, since it is part of the last Nvidia GPU series (6xx).

When you install a new GPU, you should remove before all drivers of the old one.
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14 Dec 2012   #7

Windows 7 Pro, Ubuntu, Android ICS
 
 

There were no ATI drivers installed because plugging a video card into the PCIE 16 slot takes precedence over the motherboard video in the Bios. Clean install means Windows only installs drivers for active devices and the motherboard video has no monitor plugged into it so no drivers were installed.

Something I guess I haven't made clear is what I mean by a "Clean" install. Windows 7 and Windows 8 are both on brand spanking new partitions! IE: What was there before was deleted/reformatted/erased. The drivers that they installed themselves were the only drivers installed before I tried installing updated new drivers for the devices on the system.
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14 Dec 2012   #8

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SteveCampsOut View Post
There were no ATI drivers installed because plugging a video card into the PCIE 16 slot takes precedence over the motherboard video in the Bios. Clean install means Windows only installs drivers for active devices and the motherboard video has no monitor plugged into it so no drivers were installed.
If you installed your GT 610 after istalling a fresh copy of windows 7, then the old ATI drivers should be installed. Go in device manager and check it, and uninstall any other driver.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SteveCampsOut View Post
Something I guess I haven't made clear is what I mean by a "Clean" install. Windows 7 and Windows 8 are both on brand spanking new partitions! IE: What was there before was deleted/reformatted/erased. The drivers that they installed themselves were the only drivers installed before I tried installing updated new drivers for the devices on the system.
This could be the problem. Now, uninstall all Nvidia graphics drivers and reboot the system.
At startup, let Windows install the basic driver, then uninstall it, and then run Nvidia drivers setup:

NVIDIA DRIVERS 306.97WHQL (Windows 7 64bit English)

Give it a second try
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