| Windows 7: Need help buying new card? PCIExpress x16? PCI 2.0? |
13 Dec 2012
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Need help buying new card? PCIExpress x16? PCI 2.0? So I know i could prolly google that but I want to ask you guys.
Myy current card says that the Bus Interface is a PCI Express x16?
But can I buy a card that is PCI 2.0? And put it in this computer?
I will also buy new ram,and I know that my PSU is okay. I mean I have them watts.
Current setup.
Its from 2007. And I dont have the money to buy a new cpu.
Probably just some expensive like **** RAM and a nVidia GeForce GT 630 if I can put it in the my PCI slot. | My System Specs |
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13 Dec 2012
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#2 | | Windows 7 Professional SP1 64bit |
Hi,
A GeForce GTS 450 1GB GDDR5 should be the best choice for your rig  It will work perfectly! And it is a lot better than a GT 630. His price is near to the GT 630 one. I owned it and it was really a good mid-end GPU.
I suggest you to put in your system only PCI Express 1.0/1.1/2.0 cards. Some motherboards with PCI Express 1.0/1.1 (like yours) have issues with new cards which have PCI Express 2.1/3.0.
If you can, you should add 1GB of system RAM to get your pc perform better. 3GB are good for a 32-bit system. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built desktop OS Windows 7 Professional SP1 64bit CPU Intel Core i7 3770K Ivy Bridge @4GHz HT (8MB L3) Motherboard Asus P8Z77-V Memory Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 16GB DDR3-1600 (4x4GB) Graphics Card Gigabyte GeForce GTX 690 (4GB GDDR5) Sound Card Realtek ALC 892 7.1 Channel High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays 3x Samsung SyncMaster 204B Screen Resolution 4800x1200 (Nvidia Surround) Keyboard Microsoft Internet Ps/2 Keyboard RT9443 Mouse Microsoft X08-18741 Wheel Mouse Optical USB PSU LC-Power Metatron LC1000 Legion-X2 1000W Case MidiTower ATX Cooler Master Silencio 550 (RC-550-KKN1) Cooling Cooler Master Hyper TX3 EVO Hard Drives SSD OCZ Vertex 4 128GB (SATA3) -
SEAGATE Barracuda 2TB ST2000DM001 (64MB cache, 7200rpm, SATA3) Internet Speed Download: 1.2 MB/s effective Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Google Chrome Other Info 2nd pc: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 Yorkfield @3GHz / Asus P5Q Pro / 6GB DDR2 Dual Channel @800 MHz / PNY GeForce GTS 450 XLR8 (1GB GDDR5) / 120GB SSD / NILOX 600W
/// 3rd pc: Acer Travelmate 2500 / Intel Pentium 4 Northwood @2.80GHz / 1GB DDR @400MHz / Ati Mobility Radeon 9000 IGP (64MB shared) |
13 Dec 2012
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Which would be the best choice.
And the GDDR5 are like 2 times this price so i cant afford it.
I think also that this computer will be used for gaming.
Soo..? | My System Specs | | |
13 Dec 2012
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#4 | | Win 7 Pro 64-bit 7601 Italy |
Just to clarify, the slot you will use is the PCIe not the PCI, it is a x16 one (it is full length), and it is a PCIe 1.0 (first generation). It is relatively slow, but the CPU is going to limit game choice much before you actually saturate it.
A much more important question is what is your PSU (the box powering the computer)? How much power does it generate?
More modern cards need more power than what you have now. THis page has a list of graphic cards (and it's a trusted place, that reviews such cards since a long time ago). The more powerful at the top, the weaker at the bottom. Use this as a compass to find the more powerful card you can buy with your budget.
For your rig, any card with more than 1 GB is overkill, GDDR5 is faster graphic memory than GDDR3 (better 1 GB of GDDR5 than 10 of GDDR3), but again you can live with GDDR3.
That said, you can aim for the more powerful you can find without wasting money. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number custom built OS Win 7 Pro 64-bit 7601 CPU AMD Phenom 9650 QuadCore, revision DR-B3 Motherboard ASUS M4A78 Memory 4,00 GB Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Fujitsu Siemens P19-3P Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024 x 32 bits @ 60 Hz Oh yeah, 4:3 rocks! Keyboard Microsoft, whatever. Mouse Optical, logitec. PSU whatever, around 450w Case Scavenged from old company PC, 10+ years old Cooling CPU fan, GPU fan, case fan, nothing fancy Hard Drives (1) MAXTOR S TM3320613AS SATA Disk Device (2) STM35004 18AS SATA Disk Device (3) TOSHIBA USB 2.5"-HDD Internet Speed effective max speeds: 70-ish kB/s down 30-ish kB/s up Antivirus Avira, free endition. Browser Firefox with FXChrome to make it look like Google Chrome Other Info Was discarded by previous owner due to "horrible performance".
Was running Win Xp from a IDE drive. Yeah. Was a pain.
SATA II drive and Win7 and it zips away! Yay! |
14 Dec 2012
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#5 | | Windows 7 Professional SP1 64bit |
The Gigabyte GT 630 2GB is the best choice. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built desktop OS Windows 7 Professional SP1 64bit CPU Intel Core i7 3770K Ivy Bridge @4GHz HT (8MB L3) Motherboard Asus P8Z77-V Memory Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 16GB DDR3-1600 (4x4GB) Graphics Card Gigabyte GeForce GTX 690 (4GB GDDR5) Sound Card Realtek ALC 892 7.1 Channel High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays 3x Samsung SyncMaster 204B Screen Resolution 4800x1200 (Nvidia Surround) Keyboard Microsoft Internet Ps/2 Keyboard RT9443 Mouse Microsoft X08-18741 Wheel Mouse Optical USB PSU LC-Power Metatron LC1000 Legion-X2 1000W Case MidiTower ATX Cooler Master Silencio 550 (RC-550-KKN1) Cooling Cooler Master Hyper TX3 EVO Hard Drives SSD OCZ Vertex 4 128GB (SATA3) -
SEAGATE Barracuda 2TB ST2000DM001 (64MB cache, 7200rpm, SATA3) Internet Speed Download: 1.2 MB/s effective Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Google Chrome Other Info 2nd pc: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 Yorkfield @3GHz / Asus P5Q Pro / 6GB DDR2 Dual Channel @800 MHz / PNY GeForce GTS 450 XLR8 (1GB GDDR5) / 120GB SSD / NILOX 600W
/// 3rd pc: Acer Travelmate 2500 / Intel Pentium 4 Northwood @2.80GHz / 1GB DDR @400MHz / Ati Mobility Radeon 9000 IGP (64MB shared) |
14 Dec 2012
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#7 | | Windows 7 Professional SP1 64bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by sfafxy Like i said my PSU in 450w.
Im good with that. Yes.
If you can't go higher than a GT 630 2GB, then go for it | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built desktop OS Windows 7 Professional SP1 64bit CPU Intel Core i7 3770K Ivy Bridge @4GHz HT (8MB L3) Motherboard Asus P8Z77-V Memory Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 16GB DDR3-1600 (4x4GB) Graphics Card Gigabyte GeForce GTX 690 (4GB GDDR5) Sound Card Realtek ALC 892 7.1 Channel High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays 3x Samsung SyncMaster 204B Screen Resolution 4800x1200 (Nvidia Surround) Keyboard Microsoft Internet Ps/2 Keyboard RT9443 Mouse Microsoft X08-18741 Wheel Mouse Optical USB PSU LC-Power Metatron LC1000 Legion-X2 1000W Case MidiTower ATX Cooler Master Silencio 550 (RC-550-KKN1) Cooling Cooler Master Hyper TX3 EVO Hard Drives SSD OCZ Vertex 4 128GB (SATA3) -
SEAGATE Barracuda 2TB ST2000DM001 (64MB cache, 7200rpm, SATA3) Internet Speed Download: 1.2 MB/s effective Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Google Chrome Other Info 2nd pc: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 Yorkfield @3GHz / Asus P5Q Pro / 6GB DDR2 Dual Channel @800 MHz / PNY GeForce GTS 450 XLR8 (1GB GDDR5) / 120GB SSD / NILOX 600W
/// 3rd pc: Acer Travelmate 2500 / Intel Pentium 4 Northwood @2.80GHz / 1GB DDR @400MHz / Ati Mobility Radeon 9000 IGP (64MB shared) |
14 Dec 2012
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#8 | | Win 7 Pro 64-bit 7601 Italy |
Depends from the PSU brand and if it has the 80 plus certification.
Cheap PSU aren't guaranteed by anyone to be able to reach the stated watts, and quite a few state the "peak output", that is "watts that they can provide for a few seconds at most".
Dying PSU tend to take HDDs and DVD players with them, sometimes they whole rig goes down.
Not saying that it will surely happen, but I warned you of a risk. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number custom built OS Win 7 Pro 64-bit 7601 CPU AMD Phenom 9650 QuadCore, revision DR-B3 Motherboard ASUS M4A78 Memory 4,00 GB Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Fujitsu Siemens P19-3P Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024 x 32 bits @ 60 Hz Oh yeah, 4:3 rocks! Keyboard Microsoft, whatever. Mouse Optical, logitec. PSU whatever, around 450w Case Scavenged from old company PC, 10+ years old Cooling CPU fan, GPU fan, case fan, nothing fancy Hard Drives (1) MAXTOR S TM3320613AS SATA Disk Device (2) STM35004 18AS SATA Disk Device (3) TOSHIBA USB 2.5"-HDD Internet Speed effective max speeds: 70-ish kB/s down 30-ish kB/s up Antivirus Avira, free endition. Browser Firefox with FXChrome to make it look like Google Chrome Other Info Was discarded by previous owner due to "horrible performance".
Was running Win Xp from a IDE drive. Yeah. Was a pain.
SATA II drive and Win7 and it zips away! Yay! |
14 Dec 2012
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This is serious.
Is there any way to check the PSU voltage? | My System Specs | | |
15 Dec 2012
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#10 | | Win 7 Pro 64-bit 7601 Italy |
It's not just the voltage (you would just need a multimeter), it's the voltage at near max load. As at the moment your PSU is working fine, but with a bigger card you could ask too much. You need to connect something that forces the PSU to provide its stated max output at the right voltage on all the different outputs (and each output has a different max load, the 12 volt outputs are far higher than the 5 volt as the latter only powers hard drives and similar that require less).
It is a bit complex to do and requires expensive tools and decent expertise. The PSUs that have the 80 plus certification have been tested to provide 100% of their rated output with more than 80% of efficiency. They cost twice the price of cheap ones, but they won't die if asked to work hard.
Can you post the model and brand and the specs printed on your PSU? If there is something fishy or if it has been reviewed we can help. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number custom built OS Win 7 Pro 64-bit 7601 CPU AMD Phenom 9650 QuadCore, revision DR-B3 Motherboard ASUS M4A78 Memory 4,00 GB Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Fujitsu Siemens P19-3P Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024 x 32 bits @ 60 Hz Oh yeah, 4:3 rocks! Keyboard Microsoft, whatever. Mouse Optical, logitec. PSU whatever, around 450w Case Scavenged from old company PC, 10+ years old Cooling CPU fan, GPU fan, case fan, nothing fancy Hard Drives (1) MAXTOR S TM3320613AS SATA Disk Device (2) STM35004 18AS SATA Disk Device (3) TOSHIBA USB 2.5"-HDD Internet Speed effective max speeds: 70-ish kB/s down 30-ish kB/s up Antivirus Avira, free endition. Browser Firefox with FXChrome to make it look like Google Chrome Other Info Was discarded by previous owner due to "horrible performance".
Was running Win Xp from a IDE drive. Yeah. Was a pain.
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