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Windows 7: No VGA/DVI signal for monitor with new gpu? Confused.

17 Dec 2012   #1
KilSetY

Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit)
 
 
No VGA/DVI signal for monitor with new gpu? Confused.

I've recently had to replace my psu in my computer and figured I would upgrade my graphics card to something a little better than my integrated seeing as I was getting a psu capable of powering one.

I have never installed a gpu before and I don't really think it's that hard, but I've still ran into a problem. I removed the brackets from the back of the case, stuck the card into the slots (it's a low-profile setup) and replaced all the screws. Turned on my pc to start installing the new display driver that came with the card and my monitor fails to detect a signal at all.

Monitor cable was connected to my gpu and all, no idea what to do.


PC specs:

HP s5213w slimline
Windows 7 (64-bit) OS
4gb RAM
AMD Sempron (2.2GHz) processor
Kemtek? 300w psu
Integrated graphics installed but having issues with my new EVGA GeForce 210 1gb DDR3 gpu.
Monitor in question is the one that came with the pc, an HP w1858 23"? LCD.

I've had to use the low-profile setup with this gpu due to this crap pc's tiny case. I know that when I bought the gpu that 300w psu's were the bare minimum operating requirements for it. No idea if anything besides my psu would cause any issues at all.

I couldn't find any related articles or videos on this issue that would actually help me. I did see a few things I might need to do.

-Do I need to install the drivers before I boot the computer with the gpu in?
-Do I need a VGA-to-DVI converter cable for my monitor? (don't think so, new card has a slot for my monitor cable)
-Do I need to wait a few minutes or longer for the pc to recognize the new card?



I do plan on upgrading my RAM and processor hopefully soon, but I REALLY doubt that has anything to do with this at all.

If anyone has some troubleshooting tips or a place where I can find out more besides calling around for something that is probably simpler, PLEASE post.


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17 Dec 2012   #2
KilSetY

Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit)
 
 

Didn't want to mess up my pc but I'm installing everything from the disc that came with the gpu. Really want to get this fixed , I also plan on doing something else, but I forgot what. Anyway, hope I don't damage anything. I'll feel really stupid about this even though I already feel stupid.

EDIT: Yeah, that did nothing. Probably have to do something along the lines of disabling my onboard graphics and removing old drivers. Peered into that disc and it turns out it wasn't an autorun one like I thought. Hopefully it has some info on it that will help..
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17 Dec 2012   #3
KilSetY

Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit)
 
 

Uninstalled all display/graphics drivers under my Programs and rebooted to install the ones from the disc again and it ran an install wizard right after starting back up, reinstalling drivers that I'm pretty sure I just deleted ..

Do I need to go into safe mode to run the disc and install my new drivers after uninstalling?
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17 Dec 2012   #4
petko131

Windows 7 x86 Ultimate
 
 

Welcome to the forum!
I think that your issue is the weak PSU! 300 W fot that card doesn't seem enough for that card. Turn off your pc, open the case and look at the silver box at the top left corner-power supply unit. There is a table, and look for the amperage on the +12 volt rail.
If you dont understand what I am talking about, make a picture of the table and post it on the forum.
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17 Dec 2012   #5
petko131

Windows 7 x86 Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by KilSetY View Post
Uninstalled all display/graphics drivers under my Programs and rebooted to install the ones from the disc again and it ran an install wizard right after starting back up, reinstalling drivers that I'm pretty sure I just deleted ..

Do I need to go into safe mode to run the disc and install my new drivers after uninstalling?
Did you manage to get the picture from your new card on your monitor?
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17 Dec 2012   #6
KilSetY

Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by petko131 View Post
Welcome to the forum!
I think that your issue is the weak PSU! 300 W fot that card doesn't seem enough for that card. Turn off your pc, open the case and look at the silver box at the top left corner-power supply unit. There is a table, and look for the amperage on the +12 volt rail.
If you dont understand what I am talking about, make a picture of the table and post it on the forum.
I was afraid of that Hoping that the charts stickied at the top of this forum aren't right and I can get the card to work. I've wasted a decent amount of time dealing with my psu and graphics card now already.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by petko131 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by KilSetY View Post
Uninstalled all display/graphics drivers under my Programs and rebooted to install the ones from the disc again and it ran an install wizard right after starting back up, reinstalling drivers that I'm pretty sure I just deleted ..

Do I need to go into safe mode to run the disc and install my new drivers after uninstalling?
Did you manage to get the picture from your new card on your monitor?
No picture at all. I use a VGA cable I believe for my monitor, but has capabilities for both VGA and DVI even though I'm not sure how. All it does is say there's no input signal when I turn on my pc/monitor with the graphics card in and goes into sleep mode. Which is why I have to remove the gpu before posting or anything, it disables my integrated..


REALLY going to be depressed if this new psu is not going to work with the card.
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17 Dec 2012   #7
KilSetY

Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit)
 
 

Looking at my psu...12v rail said 9A.., and the chart from the link below shows GT210 as 18A? Is that my gpu?


Uhh.. I'm gonna go look at new psu's I guess, I already ordered to return this like 1.5 weeks ago anyway.
Planning to upgrade your Graphics Card? Read First...

I wish I had seen this before. Oh, can you guys let me know if this is definitely my psu? Don't want to go off the wall and start panic buying stuff.
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17 Dec 2012   #8
petko131

Windows 7 x86 Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by KilSetY View Post
Looking at my psu...12v rail said 9A.., and the chart from the link below shows GT210 as 18A? Is that my gpu?


Uhh.. I'm gonna go look at new psu's I guess, I already ordered to return this like 1.5 weeks ago anyway.
Planning to upgrade your Graphics Card? Read First...

I wish I had seen this before. Oh, can you guys let me know if this is definitely my psu? Don't want to go off the wall and start panic buying stuff.
Yes, tou will have to buy a new psu. Your current one has the wattage, but it doesn't have the amperrage to run the card. Stop trying to boot up like that, you can damage other components from the pc. I would suggest you a 500w to 600w (quality brand) psu with at least 25 A on the 12v rail.

Next time, before buying components, make a thread and ask it they are compatible for your system configuration.
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17 Dec 2012   #9
KilSetY

Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit)
 
 

Well I bought the psu just to make the pc function, I know it's complete junk. My current pc's caseonly fits a max of like 380w psu's so I can't upgrade to anything usable with this gpu.

I'll probably start planning on a fresh pc build, using a case and parts that don't cost 10 cents to buy..

Thanks for the help petko. Hope to see you in another topic of mine .
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17 Dec 2012   #10
stormy13
Microsoft MVP

Win 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Geforce 210 doesn't draw enough power to worry about,

Inno3D GeForce 210 512 MB Review | techPowerUp

Quote:
Power consumption of the GeForce 210 is simply unreal. Under normal circumstances it never consumes more than 10W. Only in Furmark the power draw increases to 13W which is still an all-time low for any graphics card I have ever tested. The idle power consumption is an amazing 6W, which will make quite a difference in your power bill when you do desktop work all day.
It could be the power supply in that HP isn't up to it. It is also possible that you got a duff card. Not unheard of to get one that is bad from the get-go.
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