| Windows 7: GTX 660 Superclocked in a Dell Studio XPS 435MT - Impossible? |
21 Jan 2013
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#1 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 |
GTX 660 Superclocked in a Dell Studio XPS 435MT - Impossible? Hey everybody!
I have a 2009 Dell Studio XPS 435MT (MT = Mini Tower; see below), and it's current graphics card is a Nvidia GeForce GT240, which is getting long in the tooth. I currently can't pony up the $800-1200 to replace it (and build my own), so I decided to upgrade the RAM from 6GB to 16GB, and slap in a kick-a** graphics card to last me 1-4 years.
The system has a stock PSU, which according to the spec page on Dell.com (PC is at home, I'm away at school for the week), it has a 475-watt PSU.
I already know the card will work with the Motherboard, the card is PCI-express v.3, but backwards-compatible with PCI-express v.2, which is what I have.
My question is about the PSU. Is 475 watts enough for that card, plus the rest of the components? According to Newegg, it needs a 450 watt PSU as the minimum. Plus, I don't recall there being a power cable for the video card attached to the PSU. My current video card, I just had to put into the PCIe slot, and I was good to go. Is there likely a place for me to plug a power cable into the PSU for the video card? Or am I gonna have to buy a new PSU as well? I'm trying to get as much info as possible, since I can't get access to the computer until Saturday.. | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Studio XPS 435MT OS Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core-i7 920 - 2.67 GHz - First Generation/Nehalem Memory 6GB DDR3-1600 SDRAM (PC3 12800) Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GT 240 1GB Sound Card Yes, I have one of those "Sound Card" thingies..... Monitor(s) Displays 23'' Dell S2309W Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Apple Wired Keyboard Mouse Dell USB Mouse PSU Dell-stamped 475-watt PSU Case Stock Cooling Stock fans Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda Green ST1500DL003 - 1.5 Terabytes - 5900 RPM - SATA 6 Internet Speed AT&T U-verse Fiber - 18 MB/s down - 1.5 MB/s up |
21 Jan 2013
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#2 | | Microsoft Windows 8 Pro with Media Center 64-bit 9200 Multiprocessor Free |
I remember reading not to long ago that dell power supplies although the connectors are the same as other power supplies the wiring is different, So if you are going to try and save money and use a supply thats not dell you may want to look into this (just in case im right) or you will brick the whole computer | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Acer Laptop OS Microsoft Windows 8 Pro with Media Center 64-bit 9200 Multiprocessor Free CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 380 @ 2.53GHz Motherboard Acer Aspire 5742 Memory 6.00 GB Graphics Card (1) Microsoft Basic Render Driver (2) Intel(R) HD Graphics Sound Card (1) Realtek High Definition Audio (2) Intel(R) Display Aud Screen Resolution 0 x 0 x 0 bits (0 colors) @ 0 Hz Hard Drives (1) Generic- Multi-Card USB Device (2) WDC WD3200BEVS-26VAT0 Other Info Also
Acer Desktop Win 8 Windows 7 Vm's
Desktop also Acer 3 ghz I7 16 gig Ram |
21 Jan 2013
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#3 | | Windows 7 professional X64 |
Not worth it.
If the PSu doesn't explode, your CPU will bottleneck your GPU beyond possible understandable frustration, and you will regret that decision.
Keep your computer, save money, buy smart. Build a machine has components that work well together. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop OS Windows 7 professional X64 CPU AMD A10-5800K OC@ 4.4Ghz. Motherboard Gigabyte F2A85X-UP4 Memory 8GB Kingston HyperX Blu 1333mhz Graphics Card XFX HD7870 2GB Core Edition Monitor(s) Displays Acer AL2216W Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Mouse Logitech M504 PSU Cooler Master Silent Pro M 850W Case Thermaltake Commander MS-I Cooling Cooler Master N520 Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda 500gb 7200rpm
Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB 7200rpm Internet Speed 10Mbps |
21 Jan 2013
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#4 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 |
It isn't worth it? Okay, then what's a really good graphics card under $275 that WILL work in this machine with no significant issues? Also, how would the CPU bottleneck it? Sure, my i7-920 is 1st generation (Nehalem), but it still has good oomph... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Studio XPS 435MT OS Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core-i7 920 - 2.67 GHz - First Generation/Nehalem Memory 6GB DDR3-1600 SDRAM (PC3 12800) Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GT 240 1GB Sound Card Yes, I have one of those "Sound Card" thingies..... Monitor(s) Displays 23'' Dell S2309W Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Apple Wired Keyboard Mouse Dell USB Mouse PSU Dell-stamped 475-watt PSU Case Stock Cooling Stock fans Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda Green ST1500DL003 - 1.5 Terabytes - 5900 RPM - SATA 6 Internet Speed AT&T U-verse Fiber - 18 MB/s down - 1.5 MB/s up |
21 Jan 2013
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#5 | | Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1 Kentucky |
Exactly which card are you looking at? Is it the 660 2GB Superclocked, 660 3GB Superclocked, or 660Ti Superclocked? | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built OS Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1 CPU Intel Core i5-3570K @ 4.5GHz Motherboard Asus Sabertooth Z77 Memory Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4x4) @1866MHz Graphics Card Intel HD4000 Sound Card Onboard Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dell S2309W Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Max Nighthawk X8 Mechanical keyboard Mouse Logitech MX 500 Wired PSU Seasonic X750 80+ Gold Full Modular Case Antec Eleven Hundred Super Mid Tower Cooling Intel Liquid Cooler Hard Drives Samsung 830 128GB SSD - OS
2 x 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 HDD - Storage Internet Speed 50Mbps DL / 10Mbps UL Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Chrome/Firefox Other Info Klipsch ProMedia 2.1's
Asus RT-N66R Wireless Router |
21 Jan 2013
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#6 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 |

Quote: Originally Posted by kbrady1979 Exactly which card are you looking at? Is it the 660 2GB Superclocked, 660 3GB Superclocked, or 660Ti Superclocked? The GTX 660 2GB Superclocked from EVGA. Here is the Newegg link: Newegg.com - EVGA SuperClocked 02G-P4-2662-KR GeForce GTX 660 2GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Studio XPS 435MT OS Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core-i7 920 - 2.67 GHz - First Generation/Nehalem Memory 6GB DDR3-1600 SDRAM (PC3 12800) Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GT 240 1GB Sound Card Yes, I have one of those "Sound Card" thingies..... Monitor(s) Displays 23'' Dell S2309W Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Apple Wired Keyboard Mouse Dell USB Mouse PSU Dell-stamped 475-watt PSU Case Stock Cooling Stock fans Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda Green ST1500DL003 - 1.5 Terabytes - 5900 RPM - SATA 6 Internet Speed AT&T U-verse Fiber - 18 MB/s down - 1.5 MB/s up |
21 Jan 2013
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#7 | | Windows 7 Pro X64 SP1 Danbury, CT |
According to eVGA, a 660 requires a 450W PSU with at least 24A on the +12V rail. It also needs a single 6 pin PCI-E power connector. (The 660ti has the same requirements, except for two 6 pin PCI-E connectors.) eVGA supplies Molex to PCI-E adapters.
I haven't been able to find the detailed specs on the Dell PSU, but I thinks it's probably OK. For a Dell of that vintage, you could replace it with an industry standard ATX unit, if you're feeling a bit paranoid.
An I7-920 isn't weak. I suppose that Dell won't allow you to overclock it, but it's still a pretty capable CPU.
I'm not a fan of appliance PCs, haven't bought one since 1995, but the 435mt is not exactly a prime candidate for the landfill. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number homegrown OS Windows 7 Pro X64 SP1 CPU Intel Core I7-3930k Motherboard Asus P9X79 Pro Memory 16 GB Gskill DDR3-2133 Graphics Card eVGA GTX680 Sound Card Creative X-Fi Titanium Monitor(s) Displays As PA246Q Screen Resolution 1920 X 1200 Keyboard cheap Logitech USB Mouse Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer (old optical) USB PSU PCP&C Silencer 750 Crossfire Case Silverstone FT02 Cooling Noctua NH-D14 Hard Drives Corsair Force GT, 120 GB
WDC 1.5TB Caviar Black Internet Speed 6Mb cable Other Info Pioneer BDR-205
Samsung SH-203B
Monsoon 5.1 speakers |
21 Jan 2013
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#8 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 |

Quote: Originally Posted by bobkn According to eVGA, a 660 requires a 450W PSU with at least 24A on the +12V rail. It also needs a single 6 pin PCI-E power connector. (The 660ti has the same requirements, except for two 6 pin PCI-E connectors.) eVGA supplies Molex to PCI-E adapters.
I haven't been able to find the detailed specs on the Dell PSU, but I thinks it's probably OK. For a Dell of that vintage, you could replace it with an industry standard ATX unit, if you're feeling a bit paranoid.
An I7-920 isn't weak. I suppose that Dell won't allow you to overclock it, but it's still a pretty capable CPU.
I'm not a fan of appliance PCs, haven't bought one since 1995, but the 435mt is not exactly a prime candidate for the landfill.
So, eventhough my current card is powered via the PCI Express slot ITSELF, eVGA will provide me an adapter to get power via the slot itself? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Studio XPS 435MT OS Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core-i7 920 - 2.67 GHz - First Generation/Nehalem Memory 6GB DDR3-1600 SDRAM (PC3 12800) Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GT 240 1GB Sound Card Yes, I have one of those "Sound Card" thingies..... Monitor(s) Displays 23'' Dell S2309W Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Apple Wired Keyboard Mouse Dell USB Mouse PSU Dell-stamped 475-watt PSU Case Stock Cooling Stock fans Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda Green ST1500DL003 - 1.5 Terabytes - 5900 RPM - SATA 6 Internet Speed AT&T U-verse Fiber - 18 MB/s down - 1.5 MB/s up |
21 Jan 2013
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#9 | | Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1 Kentucky |
I doubt the factory Dell PSU is powerful enough to run that card. Even though it says 450Watts, very rarely are factory PSU's able to produce that.......they are very basic and inefficient. Save up and get a good 500 Watt PSU and that will do everything you need it to do. The PCI slot itself provides 75 watts of power, and a passive card like the one you are currently using doesn't need auxiliary power. A card like the 660 needs an auxiliary power connector from the PSU in order to function properly. If you need help picking out a good quality PSU, we can certainly help with that. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built OS Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1 CPU Intel Core i5-3570K @ 4.5GHz Motherboard Asus Sabertooth Z77 Memory Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4x4) @1866MHz Graphics Card Intel HD4000 Sound Card Onboard Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dell S2309W Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Max Nighthawk X8 Mechanical keyboard Mouse Logitech MX 500 Wired PSU Seasonic X750 80+ Gold Full Modular Case Antec Eleven Hundred Super Mid Tower Cooling Intel Liquid Cooler Hard Drives Samsung 830 128GB SSD - OS
2 x 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 HDD - Storage Internet Speed 50Mbps DL / 10Mbps UL Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Chrome/Firefox Other Info Klipsch ProMedia 2.1's
Asus RT-N66R Wireless Router |
21 Jan 2013
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#10 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 |

Quote: Originally Posted by kbrady1979 I doubt the factory Dell PSU is powerful enough to run that card. Even though it says 450Watts, very rarely are factory PSU's able to produce that.......they are very basic and inefficient. Save up and get a good 500 Watt PSU and that will do everything you need it to do. The PCI slot itself provides 75 watts of power, and a passive card like the one you are currently using doesn't need auxiliary power. A card like the 660 needs an auxiliary power connector from the PSU in order to function properly. If you need help picking out a good quality PSU, we can certainly help with that.
Here's the PSU I was thinking about buying, I guess. I'd rather pony up the extra $100 to be safe than sorry. Newegg.com - CORSAIR TX650 - EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Studio XPS 435MT OS Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core-i7 920 - 2.67 GHz - First Generation/Nehalem Memory 6GB DDR3-1600 SDRAM (PC3 12800) Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GT 240 1GB Sound Card Yes, I have one of those "Sound Card" thingies..... Monitor(s) Displays 23'' Dell S2309W Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Apple Wired Keyboard Mouse Dell USB Mouse PSU Dell-stamped 475-watt PSU Case Stock Cooling Stock fans Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda Green ST1500DL003 - 1.5 Terabytes - 5900 RPM - SATA 6 Internet Speed AT&T U-verse Fiber - 18 MB/s down - 1.5 MB/s up GTX 660 Superclocked in a Dell Studio XPS 435MT - Impossible? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:52 PM. | |