| Windows 7: Running PCIe 3.0 Graphics Card on PCIe 2.0? |
22 Feb 2013
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#1 | | Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit At home. |
Running PCIe 3.0 Graphics Card on PCIe 2.0? I'm strongly considering a P9X79 WS MOBO for the 40-48 PCIe lanes it has available (depending on who you are talking to; I want to run a GPU, an LSI Internal SATA/SAS 9211-8i 6Gb/s PCI-Express 2.0 RAID Controller Card, a couple of TV tuners and a WiFi card). Because of space constraints in the case, the graphics card has to be kept down to a certain length to keep it from getting into the HDDs (please don't suggest a larger case; I just don't have room for it not to mention I'm a handicapped senior citizenn and need to keep weight down as much as possible). The card at the top of my list is a MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16. Even though the MOBO's PCIe x16 slots are rated for PCIe 3.0, the most I can get on it is PCIe 2.0 because the only CPUs available for the LDA2011 socket on it, the Sandy Bridge E CPUs, will support only PCIe 2.0. An Ivy Bridge E for the 2011 socket won't be available until later this year, assuming Intel doesn't change their minds.
This PC will be used for office applications, basic photo editing, data storage (my books, music, movies ripped from DVDs and BDs, and personal reords), web surfing, listening to music, and watching movies (no gaming; I'm too old and slow). Although I'll initially just be running a single 22" monitor (1680 x x1050) and a 32" TV, I eventually want to replace the monitor with three 23" monitors (1920 x 1200). Would this graphics card be able to handle that load without too much of a performance loss even though it is running on on PCIe 2.0 x16? | My System Specs |
| Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit CPU Intel i7-3930K Motherboard ASUS P9X79 WS Memory Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR Graphics Card MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR Sound Card On board Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays HP w2207h Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Logitech G110 Mouse Logitech M525 (two in use) PSU Corsair HX750w Case Antec Two Hundred v2 Cooling Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm) Hard Drives Samsun 128GB 840 Pro
Western Digital WD Black WD2002FAEX 2TB
Western Digital WD Black WD2001FASS-0 2TB Internet Speed fair to middlin' Antivirus AVAST!, MBAM, SAS, Spybot S&D (all but MBAM free) Browser IE10 Other Info LSI 9211-8i SATA III controller card (eight more SATA III ports), 2.5" & 3.5" Hot Swap Bays, HooToo HT-CR001 PCI-E to USB 3.0 Internal Combo - 3 Ports USB 3.0 Hub + 6 Slot Card Reader, and LG Model CH12LS28 BD-ROM Combo Optical Drive. Also, ScanSnap S1500 ADF duplexing scanner, Canon 9000F flat bed scanner, Logitech 5.1 speaker system, Samsung CLP 415nw laser color printer, |
22 Feb 2013
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#2 | | Win7 Ultimate SP1 x64 / Windows 8 Pro / Android Mauritius |
PCIe 3.0 is still irrelevant at this point, there is simply no current card that can effectively make use of the full bandwidth of 2.0 let alone 3.0. It is overrated and offers no real life performance advantage over 2.0. Running any PCIe 3.0 card in a PCIe 2.0 slot will not affect performance, the benefits of PCIe3.0 are only visible while running intensive applications with a multi-GPU setup. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Win7 Ultimate SP1 x64 / Windows 8 Pro / Android CPU Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 OC'd 3.08GHz Motherboard Asus Rampage formula LGA775 Memory 8GB DDR2 900Mhz Graphics Card Zotac GTX 460OC 2GB GDDR5/Asus EN9600GT 1GB DDR3 PhyX Sound Card Supreme FX2 Monitor(s) Displays AOC 22' Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard Prolink keyboard Mouse Prolink optical mouse PSU Cooler Master GX 650W Cooling Cooler Master V6 + 3X fans Hard Drives 3X500GB hitachi, 2TB internal, 500GB Seagate FreeAgent, 640GB Samsung Internet Speed 1MiB/s Other Info 5.1 System + 2.1 System |
22 Feb 2013
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#3 | | Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit At home. |
| My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit CPU Intel i7-3930K Motherboard ASUS P9X79 WS Memory Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR Graphics Card MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR Sound Card On board Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays HP w2207h Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Logitech G110 Mouse Logitech M525 (two in use) PSU Corsair HX750w Case Antec Two Hundred v2 Cooling Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm) Hard Drives Samsun 128GB 840 Pro
Western Digital WD Black WD2002FAEX 2TB
Western Digital WD Black WD2001FASS-0 2TB Internet Speed fair to middlin' Antivirus AVAST!, MBAM, SAS, Spybot S&D (all but MBAM free) Browser IE10 Other Info LSI 9211-8i SATA III controller card (eight more SATA III ports), 2.5" & 3.5" Hot Swap Bays, HooToo HT-CR001 PCI-E to USB 3.0 Internal Combo - 3 Ports USB 3.0 Hub + 6 Slot Card Reader, and LG Model CH12LS28 BD-ROM Combo Optical Drive. Also, ScanSnap S1500 ADF duplexing scanner, Canon 9000F flat bed scanner, Logitech 5.1 speaker system, Samsung CLP 415nw laser color printer, |
22 Feb 2013
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#4 | | Windows 7 Pro X64 SP1 Danbury, CT |

Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald Even though the MOBO's PCIe x16 slots are rated for PCIe 3.0, the most I can get on it is PCIe 2.0 because the only CPUs available for the LDA2011 socket on it, the Sandy Bridge E CPUs, will support only PCIe 2.0. An Ivy Bridge E for the 2011 socket won't be available until later this year, assuming Intel doesn't change their minds. While Intel only lists PCI-E 2 support in the basic processor specs: ARK | Intel® Core
However, my Asus P9X79 Pro has a Gen3 setting in the BIOS (uEFI) setup. My current graphics card is a GTX 680. The nVidia drivers set the rate to PCI-E 2, because nVidia doesn't certify PCI-E 3 on the X79 chipset, but there's a patch from them that turns on PCI-E 3. CPU-Z shows the change, and the video card bandwidth benchmark in SiSoft SANDRA confirms it.
AMD's drivers will use PCI-E 3 without any modification. (I've had a 7970 in the system.)
The P9X79 WS has the same BIOS settings. I presume that it'll support PCI-E 3 data rates just like the Pro.
Having said that, PCI-E 3 X16 is supposed to offer very little advantage over PCI-E 2 , with the possible exceptions of GPU computing applications and very demanding games.
So: PCI-E 3 doesn't matter, but you'll have it anyway. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number homegrown OS Windows 7 Pro X64 SP1 CPU Intel Core I7-3930k Motherboard Asus P9X79 Pro Memory 16 GB Gskill DDR3-2133 Graphics Card eVGA GTX680 Sound Card Creative X-Fi Titanium Monitor(s) Displays As PA246Q Screen Resolution 1920 X 1200 Keyboard cheap Logitech USB Mouse Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer (old optical) USB PSU PCP&C Silencer 750 Crossfire Case Silverstone FT02 Cooling Noctua NH-D14 Hard Drives Corsair Force GT, 120 GB
WDC 1.5TB Caviar Black Internet Speed 6Mb cable Other Info Pioneer BDR-205
Samsung SH-203B
Monsoon 5.1 speakers |
22 Feb 2013
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#5 | | Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit At home. |
| My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit CPU Intel i7-3930K Motherboard ASUS P9X79 WS Memory Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR Graphics Card MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR Sound Card On board Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays HP w2207h Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Logitech G110 Mouse Logitech M525 (two in use) PSU Corsair HX750w Case Antec Two Hundred v2 Cooling Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm) Hard Drives Samsun 128GB 840 Pro
Western Digital WD Black WD2002FAEX 2TB
Western Digital WD Black WD2001FASS-0 2TB Internet Speed fair to middlin' Antivirus AVAST!, MBAM, SAS, Spybot S&D (all but MBAM free) Browser IE10 Other Info LSI 9211-8i SATA III controller card (eight more SATA III ports), 2.5" & 3.5" Hot Swap Bays, HooToo HT-CR001 PCI-E to USB 3.0 Internal Combo - 3 Ports USB 3.0 Hub + 6 Slot Card Reader, and LG Model CH12LS28 BD-ROM Combo Optical Drive. Also, ScanSnap S1500 ADF duplexing scanner, Canon 9000F flat bed scanner, Logitech 5.1 speaker system, Samsung CLP 415nw laser color printer, |
22 Feb 2013
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#6 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 32-Bit & Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit |
Hi Lady see if this link could help How to enable PCI-E 3.0 in Windows 7
Your board does support PCI X16 3.0 . Try the black or blue slots | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32-Bit & Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit CPU Intel Core i7 CPU 950 @ 3.07GHz Motherboard ASUS P6T DELUXE V2 Memory OCZ 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 OCZ3X1600R2 Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series Sound Card OnBoard Keyboard Microsoft Wireless Laser Keyboard 7000 Mouse Microsoft Wireless Laser Mouse 7000 PSU CORSAIR 850w Case NZXT LEXA Cooling Intel Stock Heatsink Fan Hard Drives WD6400AACS-00M3B0 (640GB SATA ) |
23 Feb 2013
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#7 | | |
There's not much point to it really. If I am not mistaken the only thing that can completely saturate a PCI-E 2.0+ slot is something like an LSI Warpdrive. I'm going to go out on a limb here, but i'm pretty sure you don't have one =3 | My System Specs | | OS Win7/8 64 bit/ CPU Intel I7 3930k C2 3.2Ghz (4.4ghz) Motherboard Asus Sabertoothx79 Memory G.skill Ripjaw X 16GB (4x4) 1866mhz (2133) Graphics Card EVGA GTX 670, GTS 450 Dedicated Physx Sound Card onboard Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Some old emachine keyboard lol Mouse Logitech M510 PSU Corsair GS800 Case Antec Skeleton Cooling Thermaltake Contac 30 Hard Drives 1TB Western Digital SSD cached Corsair Force GT 120 GB. win7 boot/media
1 Corsair Force GT 120 win8 boot. Internet Speed slow |
23 Feb 2013
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#8 | | Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit At home. |
I know the board does. It's the CPU (i7-3930K Sandy Bridge E; Ivy Bridge isn't available for the X79s yet, if ever) that's supposed to not support it. Will the directions in your link still work with a Sandy Bridge E?
The GPU card is destined for the top (blue) slot. I don't have the parts yet; I just ordered them today when I noticed today that NewEgg ran out of the RAM sticks I wanted (the only ones on ASUS' approved list) and Amazon had only two left. The board, cooler, RAM, CPU, and GPU will be trickling in next week. I caught the TIM on sale (free if I don't have any trouble with the rebate) which should be delivered tomorrow and it was delivered and already have the SSD, two data storage HDDs (will buy more, up to six total, as I need them) and extra HDDs for backups, cables, case (already prepped except for one Molex cconnector that needs pins which I will pick up tomorrow), PSU, and an el cheapo DVD drive I picked up for a dummy to use for making the cables (I had three dead 3.5" HDDs and a somewhat dead 2.5" HDD I also used for making up cables) and will replace with a BD drive later. You can see the case here starting at post #1029. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit CPU Intel i7-3930K Motherboard ASUS P9X79 WS Memory Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR Graphics Card MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR Sound Card On board Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays HP w2207h Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Logitech G110 Mouse Logitech M525 (two in use) PSU Corsair HX750w Case Antec Two Hundred v2 Cooling Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm) Hard Drives Samsun 128GB 840 Pro
Western Digital WD Black WD2002FAEX 2TB
Western Digital WD Black WD2001FASS-0 2TB Internet Speed fair to middlin' Antivirus AVAST!, MBAM, SAS, Spybot S&D (all but MBAM free) Browser IE10 Other Info LSI 9211-8i SATA III controller card (eight more SATA III ports), 2.5" & 3.5" Hot Swap Bays, HooToo HT-CR001 PCI-E to USB 3.0 Internal Combo - 3 Ports USB 3.0 Hub + 6 Slot Card Reader, and LG Model CH12LS28 BD-ROM Combo Optical Drive. Also, ScanSnap S1500 ADF duplexing scanner, Canon 9000F flat bed scanner, Logitech 5.1 speaker system, Samsung CLP 415nw laser color printer, |
23 Feb 2013
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#9 | | Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit At home. |

Quote: Originally Posted by Jerlys There's not much point to it really. If I am not mistaken the only thing that can completely saturate a PCI-E 2.0+ slot is something like an LSI Warpdrive. I'm going to go out on a limb here, but i'm pretty sure you don't have one =3 LOL! My daughter might be interested in the warp drive (she was a trekker back when she was in her twenties; she's pushing 40 now). The only LSI part I'll eventually be using is this one (probably in slot 4). The GPU was the only one I was concerned about. The SATA controller will be only x8 and the two TV tuners and the WiFi card will be only x1 each (all PCIe 2.0 and installed below the SATA card). | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit CPU Intel i7-3930K Motherboard ASUS P9X79 WS Memory Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR Graphics Card MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR Sound Card On board Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays HP w2207h Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Logitech G110 Mouse Logitech M525 (two in use) PSU Corsair HX750w Case Antec Two Hundred v2 Cooling Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm) Hard Drives Samsun 128GB 840 Pro
Western Digital WD Black WD2002FAEX 2TB
Western Digital WD Black WD2001FASS-0 2TB Internet Speed fair to middlin' Antivirus AVAST!, MBAM, SAS, Spybot S&D (all but MBAM free) Browser IE10 Other Info LSI 9211-8i SATA III controller card (eight more SATA III ports), 2.5" & 3.5" Hot Swap Bays, HooToo HT-CR001 PCI-E to USB 3.0 Internal Combo - 3 Ports USB 3.0 Hub + 6 Slot Card Reader, and LG Model CH12LS28 BD-ROM Combo Optical Drive. Also, ScanSnap S1500 ADF duplexing scanner, Canon 9000F flat bed scanner, Logitech 5.1 speaker system, Samsung CLP 415nw laser color printer, |
23 Feb 2013
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#10 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 32-Bit & Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit |
I'm on the rog.asus forum and people on there had no issue running there graphic cards with pci x16 3.0 with 3960x or 3930k . There graphic cards were Radeon HD 7970 . | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32-Bit & Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit CPU Intel Core i7 CPU 950 @ 3.07GHz Motherboard ASUS P6T DELUXE V2 Memory OCZ 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 OCZ3X1600R2 Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series Sound Card OnBoard Keyboard Microsoft Wireless Laser Keyboard 7000 Mouse Microsoft Wireless Laser Mouse 7000 PSU CORSAIR 850w Case NZXT LEXA Cooling Intel Stock Heatsink Fan Hard Drives WD6400AACS-00M3B0 (640GB SATA ) Running PCIe 3.0 Graphics Card on PCIe 2.0? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:18 AM. | |