Radeon HD 7570 or GeForce GTX 645?

tgfyhre · 06 Aug 2013

Quick question here. I'm helping my girlfriend's sister buy a new PC. She's looking at the Dell XPS 8700. If she buys it on Dell's website, she can get the GeForce GTX 645 installed. If she buys it at Best Buy she would get the AMD Radeon HD 7570. She's not really into serious gaming but she does play some games. She won't be doing any first person shooter or racing games, mostly shmups (shooters), peggle-type games, Luxor HD, etc. - right now her old HP PC can't even handle Luxor HD at 1920x1080. She does play Future Pinball tables which does require a bit of graphical power.

With that in mind, which will be the better card? I think from what I've read the GTX 645 is better, but I wanted to double-check in here. The processor will be the Core i7-4770 either way. Will the GTX 645 be enough for her? Keep in mind she got by the last 5 years with HP integrated graphics, but it did hold her back a bit. She's really not interested in upgrading beyond either of these 2 cards.

stormy13 · 06 Aug 2013

From what I can find about those two cards (they are both OEM only cards), the GTX 645 is slightly faster. Neither will be up to any of the latest and greatest, but should be more than enough for the type of games you said she likes to play.

Pretty much comes down to which is selling the computer the cheapest, more than the slight edge one card may have over the other.

tgfyhre · 06 Aug 2013

Thanks. I couldn't find too much out about these because they're OEM like you said. I tend to like NVidia myself, and I'm familiar with their control panel. As long as the 645 can handle the light-moderate gaming she does, she'll be happy. Would it be able to handle games like Scoregasm:

Scoregasm - By Charlie's Games

which has tons of particle effects on-screen at once? Or is that pushing it? Would it be able to handle games like that at 1920x1080 or would she need to bump her resolution down? Currently she can't even play Luxor HD without bumping down the resolution, thus losing the whole point of the "HD".

And is the 645 really a rebranded GTX 560SE? That what I read somewhere while trying to dig up info on this card.

bobafetthotmail · 06 Aug 2013

Afaik, the GTX 645 will easily beat the 7570 on any task. Has around double the specs and double the points in all benchmarks. As of here.

By eyeballing from the benchmark scores it should be able to handle anything relatively new/demanding as long as you don't put details to more than medium and don't run a TV or more than 2 screens with it. With older/less demanding stuff as the games you cited it will likely yawn at any resolution.

What about purchasing just a cheapo card for 50 bucks and place it in the HP PC? Given her selection of games upgrading the whole PC and getting one with a i7 4770 is beyond overkill.

All arcade-like games are a piece of cake even for the i7 4770's integrated graphics (the HD4600).

Heck, Luxor HD is available even on friggin iPads (that run it in HD). It's not anywhere near demanding.

What's the specs of the HP PC you have? Does it have a PCI-express x16 slot? (post the model if you don't know) this tutorial has a tool that scans and tells the specs automatically.

ICIT2LOL · 06 Aug 2013

Personally for me if you can afford it the GT 640 or the slightly more expensive GTX 650 2GB NVidia cards are the pick. I also prefer Asus by brand:)

Stephanie · 06 Aug 2013

Hi tgfyhre

Go nVidia, you wont be sorry :)

Handy link > PassMark Software - Video Card Benchmarks - High End Video Cards

tgfyhre · 06 Aug 2013

bobafetthotmail said:

Afaik, the GTX 645 will easily beat the 7570 on any task. Has around double the specs and double the points in all benchmarks. As of here.

By eyeballing from the benchmark scores it should be able to handle anything relatively new/demanding as long as you don't put details to more than medium and don't run a TV or more than 2 screens with it. With older/less demanding stuff as the games you cited it will likely yawn at any resolution.

What about purchasing just a cheapo card for 50 bucks and place it in the HP PC? Given her selection of games upgrading the whole PC and getting one with a i7 4770 is beyond overkill.

All arcade-like games are a piece of cake even for the i7 4770's integrated graphics (the HD4600).

Heck, Luxor HD is available even on friggin iPads (that run it in HD). It's not anywhere near demanding.

What's the specs of the HP PC you have? Does it have a PCI-express x16 slot? (post the model if you don't know) this tutorial has a tool that scans and tells the specs automatically.

Thank you for your input. Sounds like the 645 should be able to keep her happy enough for what she will be doing with it.

Her current HP PC is dying (it's very old, 6+ years, and having hardware issues), so we're looking at a DELL PC to replace it, which is why this is narrowed down to these 2 cards. We're looking at the Dell XPS 8700 and we get a choice of the Radeon HD 7570 or the GTX 645 for a bit more money, but we have a coupon also to balance out the cost.

One other thing - will the 645 handle smooth blu-ray playback at 1920x1080? I imagine it should, but I wanted to ask in case she wants to add a blu-ray drive later on for her blu-ray discs.

bobafetthotmail · 07 Aug 2013

Yeah it will. It can output any movie at any resolution you can throw at it, even to TVs. A movie is far less demanding than non-arcade games. Even a oldish HD 5450 fanless can do the same with movies.
Make sure it comes with at least an HDMI port so you can connect it to the TV.

the CPU's integrated graphics should be able to do it too. Intel graphics are pretty beefy now, no more crappy GMA. They have hardware decoding for up to the new 4k video resolution as of here.

Unless you really need a very very beefy processor, I would suggest to buy a PC with the i5 4670. It's cheaper and unless you do hardcore HD/4k video editing or other seriously intensive stuff you won't notice the difference.