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Thank you very much for this tutorial. I was using the AGP hotfix but now I managed to install these drivers which, hopefully, will improve my old pc's performance.
However, when I try to run Setup to install the Control Center, the only options I have available for installing are the Install Manager itself, which he installs from the original directory to the Program Files directory, and C++ Runtime. There's no Catalyst Control Center available whatsoever.
I've read somewhere that the installer doesn't install it because it doesn't recognize the driver in use, which was installed using your .inf.
Is there someway to bypass this or should I just install the control center from the hotfix installation file?
System Manufacturer/Model Number self built OS 7600.20510 x86 CPU P4 550 3.4 GHz HT running at 3.5 GHz Motherboard MSI PM8M3-V (MS-7211 v1.x) Micro-ATX mainboard Memory OCZ 2 GB(2x1GB) DDR400mHz running @ 414 mHz Graphics Card HIS Radeon HD 3850 IceQ 3 Turbo HDMI Dual DL-DVI AGP Sound Card MOTU Traveler firewire studio interface 192 kHz 24 bit Monitor(s) Displays 22" widescreen Acer X223W LCD, 17" Compaq P75 CRT Screen Resolution 1680x1050 and 1280x1024
Keyboard Logitch Classical Keyboard 200 Mouse Logitech Mediaplay cordless PSU 350W generic Case Cybertronpc, it glows blue Cooling stock cpu fan, Ice-Q 3 gpu and system, many case fans Hard Drives SATA I x2 WD, 400 GB and 120 GB, SATA 2 WD Caviar Black 1 TB Internet Speed 1792/448 kbits/sec Other Info SATA II PCI fake RAID adapter, 1 GB Readyboost, original ATI Remote Wonder (even works with WMC perfectly), Logitech Rumblepad 2 game controller x2
No, the problem is really linked to ATI/AMD and their poor drivers for AGP card.
The AGP Nvidia Geforce Series 7 run Aero perfectly under Windows 7.
The AGP Nvidia GeForce 6600/6800 run Aero well under Windows 7 too.
There are performance issues only with GeForce 6200 and GeForce FX.
Windows Aero runs fine with an (AGP) Nvidia GeForce 6600 or higher.
Even with Windows 7, a powerful Nvidia AGP card is better than a cheap PCI-E one.
Windows 7 supports AGP cards as Windows Vista does it.
Even recent PCI (not express) Nvidia cards are supported under Windows 7.
I wanted to buy an AGP graphic card to get a hardware support on H.264 playback.
Unfortunately for me, the ATI support for AGP Radeon HD isn't serious and there
are no AGP Nvidia since GeForce 8 : only PCI-E and PCI. Given PCI is worse than
AGP 2x brandwith, perhaps I should buy a new motherboard and a PCI-E card...
No, the problem is really linked to ATI/AMD and their poor drivers for AGP card.
The AGP Nvidia Geforce Series 7 run Aero perfectly under Windows 7.
The AGP Nvidia GeForce 6600/6800 run Aero well under Windows 7 too.
There are performance issues only with GeForce 6200 and GeForce FX.
Windows Aero runs fine with an (AGP) Nvidia GeForce 6600 or higher.
Even with Windows 7, a powerful Nvidia AGP card is better than a cheap PCI-E one.
Windows 7 supports AGP cards as Windows Vista does it.
Even recent PCI (not express) Nvidia cards are supported under Windows 7.
I wanted to buy an AGP graphic card to get a hardware support on H.264 playback.
Unfortunately for me, the ATI support for AGP Radeon HD isn't serious and there
are no AGP Nvidia since GeForce 8 : only PCI-E and PCI. Given PCI is worse than
AGP 2x brandwith, perhaps I should buy a new motherboard and a PCI-E card...
I see so much misinformation spread and it frustrates me sometimes. I'm only human so I suppose I have the right. Earlier today, I decided I was not going to post any longer partly because of this reason. It's difficult enough to help people with legitimate computer problems.
"No, the problem is really linked to ATI/AMD and their poor drivers for AGP card."
"There are performance issues only with GeForce 6200"
Completely false. I own an AGP one on another machine and it is perfect. It doesn't play latest games so well but that goes without saying. It is perfect for Aero, Windows 7 and older games. Not only that, it is a 6200A-LE.
"I wanted to buy an AGP graphic card to get a hardware support on H.264 playback.
Unfortunately for me, the ATI support for AGP Radeon HD isn't serious"
Yes, it very much is serious. I play 264 content with 15 percent CPU usage on my spec rig. If that's not serious, I don't know what is. 7.0 WEI both graphic scores.
"there are no AGP Nvidia since GeForce 8"
-False again. Download the normal driver from NVIDIA's site and install.
There is further misinformation in the post but I think we get the point here.
System Manufacturer/Model Number self built OS 7600.20510 x86 CPU P4 550 3.4 GHz HT running at 3.5 GHz Motherboard MSI PM8M3-V (MS-7211 v1.x) Micro-ATX mainboard Memory OCZ 2 GB(2x1GB) DDR400mHz running @ 414 mHz Graphics Card HIS Radeon HD 3850 IceQ 3 Turbo HDMI Dual DL-DVI AGP Sound Card MOTU Traveler firewire studio interface 192 kHz 24 bit Monitor(s) Displays 22" widescreen Acer X223W LCD, 17" Compaq P75 CRT Screen Resolution 1680x1050 and 1280x1024
Keyboard Logitch Classical Keyboard 200 Mouse Logitech Mediaplay cordless PSU 350W generic Case Cybertronpc, it glows blue Cooling stock cpu fan, Ice-Q 3 gpu and system, many case fans Hard Drives SATA I x2 WD, 400 GB and 120 GB, SATA 2 WD Caviar Black 1 TB Internet Speed 1792/448 kbits/sec Other Info SATA II PCI fake RAID adapter, 1 GB Readyboost, original ATI Remote Wonder (even works with WMC perfectly), Logitech Rumblepad 2 game controller x2
I see so much misinformation spread and it frustrates me sometimes. I'm only human so I suppose I have the right. Earlier today, I decided I was not going to post any longer partly because of this reason. It's difficult enough to help people with legitimate computer problems.
Let's not get worked up over such a little thing !
So, I'm going to explain my point of view.
Quote: Originally Posted by torrentg
"No, the problem is really linked to ATI/AMD and their poor drivers for AGP card."
"I wanted to buy an AGP graphic card to get a hardware support on H.264 playback. Unfortunately for me, the ATI support for AGP Radeon HD isn't serious"
Yes, it very much is serious. I play 264 content with 15 percent CPU usage on my spec rig. If that's not serious, I don't know what is. 7.0 WEI both graphic scores.
It's a fact that ATI doesn't provide a WHQL driver for AGP Radeon HD. In the official website, there is just an unsupported hotfix, see Catalyst AGP Hotfix - Radeon HD 4000 Radeon HD 3000 and Radeon HD 2000 Series AGP products . This hotfix is provided as is and there is no guarantee. For me, it isn't serious. If you have to provide tips and modified files in this topic to install AGP Radeon HD on Windows 7, you cannot congratulate ATI/AMD ! The problem seems worse with Windows 7 64-bit Edition.
Quote: Originally Posted by torrentg
"There are performance issues only with GeForce 6200"
Completely false. I own an AGP one on another machine and it is perfect. It doesn't play latest games so well but that goes without saying. It is perfect for Aero, Windows 7 and older games. Not only that, it is a 6200A-LE.
I use myself Windows Aero under Seven with my pentium 4 2.4 GHz, 2 GB DDR-RAM and a Gigabyte GeForce 6200 and it runs pretty well (only bug: Flip 3D slows down when there are a lot of program, but it isn't important for me). However, some models seem to have problem with 7 (like Aero disabled) : I just browsed this forum and elsewhere to conclude that.
Quote: Originally Posted by torrentg
"there are no AGP Nvidia since GeForce 8"
-False again. Download the normal driver from NVIDIA's site and install.
I know that NVIDIA's drivers still support GeForce 6100 and up. NVIDIA's drivers still support AGP and even PCI (in addition to PCI-E). But I mean that there is no AGP Nvidia GeForce 8 and up. The latest AGP Nvidia is GeForce 7950GT. If you know a manufacturer which sells AGP Geforce 8 or higher, thank you to cite it.
Last edited by Big Monstro; 11-24-2009 at 03:46 PM..
Thanks for posting this thread. I've installed the drivers per your tutorial as closely as I can. For some reason I when I run Aero my desktop and title bars are scrambled and Aero will disable after a short period. The card works fine when Aero is disabled, but I would like to be able to run it.
Is there something in the install process that I'm doing wrong and may be causing these issues?
I'm running the ASUS SILENT Radeon HD 3650. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks...
Thanks for posting this thread. I've installed the drivers per your tutorial as closely as I can. For some reason I when I run Aero my desktop and title bars are scrambled and Aero will disable after a short period. The card works fine when Aero is disabled, but I would like to be able to run it.
Is there something in the install process that I'm doing wrong and may be causing these issues?
I'm running the ASUS SILENT Radeon HD 3650. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks...
Hi. It's probably an issue with your motherboard being old. Which one is it?
System Manufacturer/Model Number self built OS 7600.20510 x86 CPU P4 550 3.4 GHz HT running at 3.5 GHz Motherboard MSI PM8M3-V (MS-7211 v1.x) Micro-ATX mainboard Memory OCZ 2 GB(2x1GB) DDR400mHz running @ 414 mHz Graphics Card HIS Radeon HD 3850 IceQ 3 Turbo HDMI Dual DL-DVI AGP Sound Card MOTU Traveler firewire studio interface 192 kHz 24 bit Monitor(s) Displays 22" widescreen Acer X223W LCD, 17" Compaq P75 CRT Screen Resolution 1680x1050 and 1280x1024
Keyboard Logitch Classical Keyboard 200 Mouse Logitech Mediaplay cordless PSU 350W generic Case Cybertronpc, it glows blue Cooling stock cpu fan, Ice-Q 3 gpu and system, many case fans Hard Drives SATA I x2 WD, 400 GB and 120 GB, SATA 2 WD Caviar Black 1 TB Internet Speed 1792/448 kbits/sec Other Info SATA II PCI fake RAID adapter, 1 GB Readyboost, original ATI Remote Wonder (even works with WMC perfectly), Logitech Rumblepad 2 game controller x2
I installed the optional SIS update through windows updater. I haven't seen much of an improvement though. It may take a little longer for Aero to disable, but will disable eventually nonetheless.
I installed the optional SIS update through windows updater. I haven't seen much of an improvement though. It may take a little longer for Aero to disable, but will disable eventually nonetheless.
What you can do is try to go to device manager. Look under system devices for CPU to AGP controller. Update the driver and when doing so, choose different ones that are already on your system. After, update the video driver each time. Eventually, one may work.
System Manufacturer/Model Number self built OS 7600.20510 x86 CPU P4 550 3.4 GHz HT running at 3.5 GHz Motherboard MSI PM8M3-V (MS-7211 v1.x) Micro-ATX mainboard Memory OCZ 2 GB(2x1GB) DDR400mHz running @ 414 mHz Graphics Card HIS Radeon HD 3850 IceQ 3 Turbo HDMI Dual DL-DVI AGP Sound Card MOTU Traveler firewire studio interface 192 kHz 24 bit Monitor(s) Displays 22" widescreen Acer X223W LCD, 17" Compaq P75 CRT Screen Resolution 1680x1050 and 1280x1024
Keyboard Logitch Classical Keyboard 200 Mouse Logitech Mediaplay cordless PSU 350W generic Case Cybertronpc, it glows blue Cooling stock cpu fan, Ice-Q 3 gpu and system, many case fans Hard Drives SATA I x2 WD, 400 GB and 120 GB, SATA 2 WD Caviar Black 1 TB Internet Speed 1792/448 kbits/sec Other Info SATA II PCI fake RAID adapter, 1 GB Readyboost, original ATI Remote Wonder (even works with WMC perfectly), Logitech Rumblepad 2 game controller x2
Well I didn't have a lot of hair to begin with before trying to install the new card Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated. ASUS P4S800D-X MOBO, Radeon 4760 card. Thanks in advance
System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Brew OS Windows7 Home Premium X64 CPU Intel Q9650 3.00 Ghz OC'd to 3.60 Motherboard Asus P5Q Pro Turbo Memory 4X2GB Corsair Dominator Graphics Card XFX HD4890 (ATI) Sound Card On Board Monitor(s) Displays 2X Dell 2405FPW Screen Resolution 2X 1920X1200
Keyboard Sunbeamtech Mouse Logitec Trackman PSU Thermaltake 850 Watt Case Lian Li Cooling Thermaltake Bigwater for CPU and 4 additional fans Hard Drives 1 Intel X25-M 160GB SSD SATA Drive
1 WD Velociraptor 150GB SATA Drive
1 WD Velociraptor 300GB SATA Drive
2 Lite-on SATA CD/DVD Burners Internet Speed 5 MB DSL