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Windows 7: Install a new video card for a failing onboard video connection

22 Jul 2016   #1
loninappleton

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
 
 
Install a new video card for a failing onboard video connection

This hardware question is about adding in an older NVidia graphics card to replace the onboard video.

One error I'm getting and computer power up is 'not getting signal' at the monitor from the onboard video.

A sample install of the add-in card to bypass that connection gave a typical blue screen with the message of a new piece of (something-- hardware software) is not recognized.

The motherboard has Radeon 4540 graphics on the board. The add-in card which is used is an Nvidia XFX gotten from a friend who is upgrading.

My question is this:

It is known that a hard disk can be migrated from one rig to another by modifying the driver in Device Manager. What this does is have Win7 make a new discovery of the hardware piece. Can something similar be done with video in Device Manager or the BIOS on this MSI 880GM-E41 model MS 7623?

Additionally, could a reinstall of Win7 adding in the proper Nvidia driver which I put on a cd solve the problem?

Or does the chipset simply not support Nvidia? I have looked at the specifications manual page and found nothing on it. The Radeon info comes from the Everest diagnostic program.

thanks for any replies


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22 Jul 2016   #2
RoasterMen

Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
 
 

HD 4540 or HD 5450? The motherboard will support any graphics card assuming it has a PCI-E slot (which it does have). Have you tried disabling onboard video in the bios?
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22 Jul 2016   #3
loninappleton

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

Disabling onboard video is a good tip. But I could find nothing on it in the manual.
What is it typically called and under which option?
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22 Jul 2016   #4
loninappleton

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

Forgot.

Yes Radeon ATI 4250 is the video gpu on motherboard which about six years old,
The AMI system BIOS date is 1/27/2011 . BIOS screens are confusing I need to know where to start
to find the switch you mentioned.
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23 Jul 2016   #5
RoasterMen

Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
 
 

I don't have your motherboard's BIOS options but here's a picture that will give you an idea

It won't be exactly like this but should be similar

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23 Jul 2016   #6
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

You should not have to change anything in the bios, just install the card, then download the proper drivers from nvidia and install them, that`s it.

Visual Computing Leadership from NVIDIA
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23 Jul 2016   #7
loninappleton

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

That should help a lot. I'll inform of my progress.

I guess I'm wondering that if the POST gets as far as Win7 why wouldn't it continue?

Anyway, I'll be testing this shortly.
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23 Jul 2016   #8
loninappleton

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

An update.

I can't believe how opaque this procedure is to even find a screen shot of what to do.

It's not in the manual with the board. ( I had not looked for a pdf on the install disk)

There is an MSI site that has a download concerning the AMI BIOS where I hoped to see a read me. That download is in something called a .BAO file. It may be for flashing, who knows?

Next I went to a third party site for a pdf download. This was a bit more complete. Keep in mind, this MSI has POST problems and I am not shutting down til necessary.

On this manual description it says Primary Graphics display and the right option to open. But even here it does not show other options except to say some selection is available.

That is the best I have found.

Before attempting this it would be helpful to know if the options shown would even include a swap to NVidia.
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23 Jul 2016   #9
loninappleton

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

One other note: Some may wonder why I don't go to MSI forum with all this. I simply can't read their tiny text that is white on black format in keeping with their layout.
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24 Jul 2016   #10
Mellon Head

Win 7 Pro x64/Win 10 Pro x64 dual boot
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by loninappleton View Post
On this manual description it says Primary Graphics display and the right option to open. But even here it does not show other options except to say some selection is available.
Primary Graphics Display is the BIOS entry that you want, and you want to set it to PCIe or "PEG", whichever of the two show up. That will set the system to look at the add in GPU first. If it can't find a GPU (if you don't have it installed, for instance), then it will default to the onboard graphics.

Keep in mind that BIOS manuals are terrible and are usually translated from another language into English with naturally resulting errors and omissions. They also seem to make them as generic as possible so that one BIOS manual can mostly replace another when it comes time to write a new one. It usually takes a bit of head scratching and trial and error to figure out what to do. It's normal.

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Before attempting this it would be helpful to know if the options shown would even include a swap to NVidia.
The BIOS manual will never tell you that, but you should have no problem putting in an Nvidia card as long as Windows 7 drivers are available for it. If it's really old, it might be a problem, but you'll probably be OK. Just make sure to install the drivers after you install the card and you should be good to go.

EDIT: See my next post for further instructions...
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