| Windows 7: New GRFX card advice: |
09 Dec 2009
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#11 | | Windows 7 Ulitimate Beta 32 Bit, Windows Vista 32 Bit, Ubuntu 9.10 32 Bit The Land of Those of Us With Red Necks |
here you can read them for yourself  but as you can see..... a 5850 is only about 10 fps slower in farcry 2 then he 295 with the 5850 at 90 and the 295 at 100..... so yes one of these will max it... and.... the 5870 is faster than both Radeon HD 5850: Knocking Down GTX 295 In CrossFire : Introduction - Review Tom's Hardware
now.... its to bad you can't just get the 5970....... its the fastest card in the world..... period | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Acer Aspire M1201/Custom Build OS Windows 7 Ulitimate Beta 32 Bit, Windows Vista 32 Bit, Ubuntu 9.10 32 Bit CPU AMD Athlon X2 5000+ @ 2.6Ghz Motherboard Acer Micro-ATX Motherboard Memory 4gb Patriot Viper PC6400 @ 800mhz Dual Channel (4-4-4-12) Graphics Card ATI HD3870 with 512mb GDDR4 Sound Card Realtek HD 7.1 Onboard Sound Monitor(s) Displays 22" Acer X223 Widescreen Screen Resolution 1680 X 1050 Keyboard Microsoft Sidewinder X6 Mouse Microsoft Sidewinder X5 PSU ULTRA X3 600 Watt Modular Case NZXT Tempest (The Airflow King) 2x 140mm Fans, 4x 120mm Fans Cooling 1x 135mm In PSU, 1x 70mm On CPU, And 1x 120mm Hard Drives 320gb Western Digital SATA II (Ubuntu 9.10)
500gb Seagate SATA II (Windows 7 Beta)
1tb Seagate SATA II (Vista Home Premium) Internet Speed 6 Mbs Down 1 Mbs Up Other Info AVerMedia 1500MCE TV Tuner
Logitech X540 5.1 Surround Sound |
09 Dec 2009
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#12 | | |
well........IMO
the fact you have an Nvidia chipset would push me to get a GTX285, & then in the new year i'd begin my hunt for another, SLI 285s are EXCELLENT, or i'd hold off a little while & see if i could get a ''Fermi'' card (then SLI later on)  , though it may be quite a wait..
a single slot solution is certainly preferred over SLI or CFX, but its not always the best option if you have an existing card you can use.
if you buy right now into Nvidia you'll miss out on DX11 until the next time you upgrade your GPUs (which in most ppl's cases is not too often  )
if you go the other way...ATI 5xxx, you assure yourself DX11, but your limited by your chipset, so as you've said its gotta be ''high end''
so..... how desperate are you to upgrade | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number myself OS SEVEN x64 CPU Q9450 @ 3.6GHZ 1.34v Motherboard ASUS P5K PREMIUM P35 Memory 8GB 1066 buffalo firestix @ 1152mhz CL5 Graphics Card Sapphire HD 5970 + GTX260 (physX) Sound Card Creative X-FI Xtreme Gamer Monitor(s) Displays SAMSUNG 20'' & SAMSUNG 23'' (dual screens) Screen Resolution 2048x1152 & 1680x1050 Keyboard LOGITECH E110 Mouse logitech NX5 PSU XCILIO 850w (78A) Case CM590 1x 120x38mm & 2x92x38mm / 4x 120x25mm Cooling AC7 PRO @ 92x38mm blower, Lamptron military bus bay controll Hard Drives 1x seagate 160gb IDE & 1x seagate 160gb SATA Internet Speed 2MB Other Info its a continual ''work in progress''.... |
12 Dec 2009
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#13 | | Windows 7 7600 x64 (16385) Ultimate,Windows Vista x64 Ultimate Australia |

Quote: Originally Posted by skunksmash well........IMO
the fact you have an Nvidia chipset would push me to get a GTX285, & then in the new year i'd begin my hunt for another, SLI 285s are EXCELLENT, or i'd hold off a little while & see if i could get a ''Fermi'' card (then SLI later on)  , though it may be quite a wait..
a single slot solution is certainly preferred over SLI or CFX, but its not always the best option if you have an existing card you can use.
if you buy right now into Nvidia you'll miss out on DX11 until the next time you upgrade your GPUs (which in most ppl's cases is not too often  )
if you go the other way...ATI 5xxx, you assure yourself DX11, but your limited by your chipset, so as you've said its gotta be ''high end''
so..... how desperate are you to upgrade  Well i been thinking about it and i think you are right, i will just have to wait for nvid to get there gpu's into gear for DX11.
the GTX285 is the best nvidia card, but the only thing that makes it the best is the memory interface is 512bit where as the 275/295 is 448bit, but the stupid thing is they still utilized the older openGL 2.1 but the 275 uses 3.0. talk about a backward forward upgrade in technology.
i just dont get why nvid takes so long to release DX11 cards, unless they are waiting for the right moment to release something that is capable of beating the HD5970 and also uses DX11.i dont know what happened to their so called upcoming release GT300 GPU's, obviously that went astray or something. but what bugs me even more is they release lower end cards (like the base model GT200 series cards) that are basically old 7 or 8 series cards with a new fancy name, what the heck is the point? cant they put that money into designing something truly worthy of advancing in development instead of going backwards?
but i do like the looks of the HD5970, its got some awesome technology, and a reasonable price tag for it too, $1200 might sound high, but when you consider the stuff in it, it is reasonable....if only  at least the i7 chipsets are crossfire/sli compatible.
i did try cleaning out the cards today, i actually have 3 980GX2's, but one was a water cooling setup gone wrong but still worked before i bought 2 new ones through insurance. i will have to try testing the other one again. pulling them apart is a slow task on its own.
does anyone know what sort of thermal pads they use? its a white putty sort of stuff, when you touch it, it leaves a white oily film on your skin and it has like a woven mesh in it? i can reuse the old stuff but i was wondering what it was called and where i could buy it as i have never seen that sort of thermal transfer pad before. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Mad Customs #4 OS Windows 7 7600 x64 (16385) Ultimate,Windows Vista x64 Ultimate CPU Intel Quad core Q9550 2.83GHz@3.92GHz(AS5 lapped)(1845FSB) Motherboard EVGA 790i FTW DIGITAL PWM (AS5 re-pasted) Memory 2gbx4 GSkill1600MHz9/9/9/24/2T-1.8v@1677MHz9/9/9/18/1T-1.8v Graphics Card x2 Leadtek 9800GX2 Quad SLI(re-pasted/no cases)755/1120/1820 Sound Card Crapative XF-i Plat Monitor(s) Displays Chimei22"ws(DVI)/LG32"LCD(HDMI)/Samsung 40"LCD(HDMI) Screen Resolution 1680x1050/1360x768/1920x1080 (1080P) Keyboard Logitech Di Novo Edge Mouse MX 1100 PSU Zalman 850-HP 850watt x6 12v@18A Case Tiled floor (nice and cold-usually 18c idle) Cooling fan forced 120 Xtreme (lapped)with push/pull setup Hard Drives Seagate 1TB "40NS" 32mb sata2, Hitachi 500gb 16mb sata2 (backup storage), Sandisk 16gb micro SD (mobile storage) Internet Speed Bigpond 17mbit/s cable=Max witnessed 2.5Mbyte/s down 30kb up Other Info Enzotech SLF-1+Enzotech CNB-EVGAi chipset coolers/Sunbeamtech Rheobus Extreme 30 Watt x 6 channel fan controller/Zalman ZM-MFC2 fan controller-Watt meter/Logitech G25 Racing Wheel/Logitech cordless number pad/OCZ NIA//HTPC:7600 x64/E8400@3GHz1.18v/2x2Gb ST Proj.X DDR3 1800 9-9-9-24/Nvidia 8400GS 512Mb/Asus HDAV1.3 Delux(changed OPAmps to OPA627)/250Gb 16Mb 7200/480W PSU/Custom made cardboard box!! |
12 Dec 2009
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#14 | | Windows 7 Ulitimate Beta 32 Bit, Windows Vista 32 Bit, Ubuntu 9.10 32 Bit The Land of Those of Us With Red Necks |
hm... its not the same as whats on a cpu? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Acer Aspire M1201/Custom Build OS Windows 7 Ulitimate Beta 32 Bit, Windows Vista 32 Bit, Ubuntu 9.10 32 Bit CPU AMD Athlon X2 5000+ @ 2.6Ghz Motherboard Acer Micro-ATX Motherboard Memory 4gb Patriot Viper PC6400 @ 800mhz Dual Channel (4-4-4-12) Graphics Card ATI HD3870 with 512mb GDDR4 Sound Card Realtek HD 7.1 Onboard Sound Monitor(s) Displays 22" Acer X223 Widescreen Screen Resolution 1680 X 1050 Keyboard Microsoft Sidewinder X6 Mouse Microsoft Sidewinder X5 PSU ULTRA X3 600 Watt Modular Case NZXT Tempest (The Airflow King) 2x 140mm Fans, 4x 120mm Fans Cooling 1x 135mm In PSU, 1x 70mm On CPU, And 1x 120mm Hard Drives 320gb Western Digital SATA II (Ubuntu 9.10)
500gb Seagate SATA II (Windows 7 Beta)
1tb Seagate SATA II (Vista Home Premium) Internet Speed 6 Mbs Down 1 Mbs Up Other Info AVerMedia 1500MCE TV Tuner
Logitech X540 5.1 Surround Sound |
12 Dec 2009
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#15 | | Windows 7 7600 x64 (16385) Ultimate,Windows Vista x64 Ultimate Australia |

Quote: Originally Posted by ThePizzaMan hm... its not the same as whats on a cpu? who's not the same?
oh the thermal pad? no they use thermal paste (i just use AS5) on the actual GPU but the RAM chips they have to use a form of pad as there is a gap between the chips and the giant heat sinc which was another stupid design flaw of that model. i have tried using those heat pads that are like jelly similar to what they use on ddr ram coolers but that stuff just doesn't work the same as the white crap. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Mad Customs #4 OS Windows 7 7600 x64 (16385) Ultimate,Windows Vista x64 Ultimate CPU Intel Quad core Q9550 2.83GHz@3.92GHz(AS5 lapped)(1845FSB) Motherboard EVGA 790i FTW DIGITAL PWM (AS5 re-pasted) Memory 2gbx4 GSkill1600MHz9/9/9/24/2T-1.8v@1677MHz9/9/9/18/1T-1.8v Graphics Card x2 Leadtek 9800GX2 Quad SLI(re-pasted/no cases)755/1120/1820 Sound Card Crapative XF-i Plat Monitor(s) Displays Chimei22"ws(DVI)/LG32"LCD(HDMI)/Samsung 40"LCD(HDMI) Screen Resolution 1680x1050/1360x768/1920x1080 (1080P) Keyboard Logitech Di Novo Edge Mouse MX 1100 PSU Zalman 850-HP 850watt x6 12v@18A Case Tiled floor (nice and cold-usually 18c idle) Cooling fan forced 120 Xtreme (lapped)with push/pull setup Hard Drives Seagate 1TB "40NS" 32mb sata2, Hitachi 500gb 16mb sata2 (backup storage), Sandisk 16gb micro SD (mobile storage) Internet Speed Bigpond 17mbit/s cable=Max witnessed 2.5Mbyte/s down 30kb up Other Info Enzotech SLF-1+Enzotech CNB-EVGAi chipset coolers/Sunbeamtech Rheobus Extreme 30 Watt x 6 channel fan controller/Zalman ZM-MFC2 fan controller-Watt meter/Logitech G25 Racing Wheel/Logitech cordless number pad/OCZ NIA//HTPC:7600 x64/E8400@3GHz1.18v/2x2Gb ST Proj.X DDR3 1800 9-9-9-24/Nvidia 8400GS 512Mb/Asus HDAV1.3 Delux(changed OPAmps to OPA627)/250Gb 16Mb 7200/480W PSU/Custom made cardboard box!! |
12 Dec 2009
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#16 | | Windows 7 Ulitimate Beta 32 Bit, Windows Vista 32 Bit, Ubuntu 9.10 32 Bit The Land of Those of Us With Red Necks |
hm... idk then.... there must be someone that sells it | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Acer Aspire M1201/Custom Build OS Windows 7 Ulitimate Beta 32 Bit, Windows Vista 32 Bit, Ubuntu 9.10 32 Bit CPU AMD Athlon X2 5000+ @ 2.6Ghz Motherboard Acer Micro-ATX Motherboard Memory 4gb Patriot Viper PC6400 @ 800mhz Dual Channel (4-4-4-12) Graphics Card ATI HD3870 with 512mb GDDR4 Sound Card Realtek HD 7.1 Onboard Sound Monitor(s) Displays 22" Acer X223 Widescreen Screen Resolution 1680 X 1050 Keyboard Microsoft Sidewinder X6 Mouse Microsoft Sidewinder X5 PSU ULTRA X3 600 Watt Modular Case NZXT Tempest (The Airflow King) 2x 140mm Fans, 4x 120mm Fans Cooling 1x 135mm In PSU, 1x 70mm On CPU, And 1x 120mm Hard Drives 320gb Western Digital SATA II (Ubuntu 9.10)
500gb Seagate SATA II (Windows 7 Beta)
1tb Seagate SATA II (Vista Home Premium) Internet Speed 6 Mbs Down 1 Mbs Up Other Info AVerMedia 1500MCE TV Tuner
Logitech X540 5.1 Surround Sound |
13 Dec 2009
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#17 | | |
For the answer to Nvidia's release dates.... Officially they don't have any US releases for any major DX games, and STALKER is the only huge game I know that's comming out with DX11 (Well it's out but not in the US yet, makes me ****in angry is what!) and they are probably going to delay it just so they can fully support the games and have decent testing done. As for them not having it out now? Well really they should have, but since there are only 2 DX11 games I'm not really too angry.
For the seccond note on the thermal pads? You can make them yourself, as all you need is thermal paste and gauze.... Yeah that's close enough to what they really are, it's just a thermal compound with gauze. Pretty ****in simple really, it's just there to transfer the heat and fill the gap and that does it just fine. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7, Linux CPU AMD Phemon II x2 3@3750 Motherboard ASRock M3A770DE Memory 1G Crucial 1666 Graphics Card 8800GT OC (custom OC) Sound Card Sound Blaster Live! (never changes!) Monitor(s) Displays Vivitron 22" Screen Resolution 1600x1200 Keyboard Logitech Mouse Logitech M-BZ15A Laser PSU 450w Case Unknown Cooling Custom Air cooled Hard Drives Western Digital 120G/160G SATA
Maxtor 80G IDE Internet Speed Cable 10mbit |
13 Dec 2009
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#18 | | Windows 7 7600 x64 (16385) Ultimate,Windows Vista x64 Ultimate Australia |

Quote: Originally Posted by mushroomboy For the answer to Nvidia's release dates.... Officially they don't have any US releases for any major DX games, and STALKER is the only huge game I know that's comming out with DX11 (Well it's out but not in the US yet, makes me ****in angry is what!) and they are probably going to delay it just so they can fully support the games and have decent testing done. As for them not having it out now? Well really they should have, but since there are only 2 DX11 games I'm not really too angry.
For the seccond note on the thermal pads? You can make them yourself, as all you need is thermal paste and gauze.... Yeah that's close enough to what they really are, it's just a thermal compound with gauze. Pretty ****in simple really, it's just there to transfer the heat and fill the gap and that does it just fine. Hey thnx 4 the input, with the thermal pads, it is strange stuff, you can mould it like blue-tac and break it and re-roll it in your hand to form what ever shape you like, it just leaves a white layer of crap on your hands.lol. but if you used thermal past with gauze it wouldnt be a putty type of pad, i am trying to figure out its name.
thats what i dont get with nvidia, they create descent products but they sure drag on doing it, so by the time you upgrade to the new ones ATI has already made something better. im seriously thinking i should hold back and build an i7 setup with a pair of ati cards. i have always been an nvidia fan cos of there little extra features (mainly 3D vision, its awsome in games like fallout3) but now cos of all the bull**** im reconsidering....thanks NVIDIA!
EDIT: i took a pic (excuse the overbright on my phone) of the thermal pad pulled apart, you can just make out the strands of the gauze crap inside of it. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Mad Customs #4 OS Windows 7 7600 x64 (16385) Ultimate,Windows Vista x64 Ultimate CPU Intel Quad core Q9550 2.83GHz@3.92GHz(AS5 lapped)(1845FSB) Motherboard EVGA 790i FTW DIGITAL PWM (AS5 re-pasted) Memory 2gbx4 GSkill1600MHz9/9/9/24/2T-1.8v@1677MHz9/9/9/18/1T-1.8v Graphics Card x2 Leadtek 9800GX2 Quad SLI(re-pasted/no cases)755/1120/1820 Sound Card Crapative XF-i Plat Monitor(s) Displays Chimei22"ws(DVI)/LG32"LCD(HDMI)/Samsung 40"LCD(HDMI) Screen Resolution 1680x1050/1360x768/1920x1080 (1080P) Keyboard Logitech Di Novo Edge Mouse MX 1100 PSU Zalman 850-HP 850watt x6 12v@18A Case Tiled floor (nice and cold-usually 18c idle) Cooling fan forced 120 Xtreme (lapped)with push/pull setup Hard Drives Seagate 1TB "40NS" 32mb sata2, Hitachi 500gb 16mb sata2 (backup storage), Sandisk 16gb micro SD (mobile storage) Internet Speed Bigpond 17mbit/s cable=Max witnessed 2.5Mbyte/s down 30kb up Other Info Enzotech SLF-1+Enzotech CNB-EVGAi chipset coolers/Sunbeamtech Rheobus Extreme 30 Watt x 6 channel fan controller/Zalman ZM-MFC2 fan controller-Watt meter/Logitech G25 Racing Wheel/Logitech cordless number pad/OCZ NIA//HTPC:7600 x64/E8400@3GHz1.18v/2x2Gb ST Proj.X DDR3 1800 9-9-9-24/Nvidia 8400GS 512Mb/Asus HDAV1.3 Delux(changed OPAmps to OPA627)/250Gb 16Mb 7200/480W PSU/Custom made cardboard box!! |
13 Dec 2009
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#19 | | Windows 7 Ulitimate Beta 32 Bit, Windows Vista 32 Bit, Ubuntu 9.10 32 Bit The Land of Those of Us With Red Necks |
hm... maybe it will work.... and you would like the i7.... good and fast | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Acer Aspire M1201/Custom Build OS Windows 7 Ulitimate Beta 32 Bit, Windows Vista 32 Bit, Ubuntu 9.10 32 Bit CPU AMD Athlon X2 5000+ @ 2.6Ghz Motherboard Acer Micro-ATX Motherboard Memory 4gb Patriot Viper PC6400 @ 800mhz Dual Channel (4-4-4-12) Graphics Card ATI HD3870 with 512mb GDDR4 Sound Card Realtek HD 7.1 Onboard Sound Monitor(s) Displays 22" Acer X223 Widescreen Screen Resolution 1680 X 1050 Keyboard Microsoft Sidewinder X6 Mouse Microsoft Sidewinder X5 PSU ULTRA X3 600 Watt Modular Case NZXT Tempest (The Airflow King) 2x 140mm Fans, 4x 120mm Fans Cooling 1x 135mm In PSU, 1x 70mm On CPU, And 1x 120mm Hard Drives 320gb Western Digital SATA II (Ubuntu 9.10)
500gb Seagate SATA II (Windows 7 Beta)
1tb Seagate SATA II (Vista Home Premium) Internet Speed 6 Mbs Down 1 Mbs Up Other Info AVerMedia 1500MCE TV Tuner
Logitech X540 5.1 Surround Sound |
13 Dec 2009
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#20 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by ThePizzaMan hm... maybe it will work.... and you would like the i7.... good and fast  Well knock me down with a feather... | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number SmartEyeball Inc OS 8 Pro x64 CPU i7 3770K 4.6GHz Motherboard ASUS P8Z77 WS Memory 16GB G.Skill Trident X 2400mhz Graphics Card 3x Gigabyte GTX 670 OC WindForce *TRI SLI* Sound Card ALC898 / 5.1 receiver/ ATH-AD900 Headphones Monitor(s) Displays x3 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung / "40 Sony Screen Resolution 5760*1200/ 1920*1200 / 1920*1080 Keyboard Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine MX Black // Filco Ninja TKL Mouse Razer Imperator + Thermaltake Theron PSU Corsair AX1200W Case Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow Edition Cooling Noctua NH-D14 Hard Drives 2x Intel 520 240GB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0) * 2TB WD Caviar Black Antivirus MSE Browser IE, FF Other Info GT Extreme V2 Sim Racing Cockpit + 40" LCD and K/B Mouse stand ▼
Fanatec CSR Elite Wheel + Clubsport Pedals + CSR shifter/7GS ▼
Buttkicker v2 Seat Rumbler with Dedicated 5.1 and Sub Woofer attached to frame ▼
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