Dual monitors, secondary monitor on/off intermittently

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I think this is the right place to ask this.

I have two monitors connected to the ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT graphics card (it has two DVI connections). With both monitors on everything works fine. Windows remembers which apps I have open on which monitor and so on.

However, sometimes I turn on only one (the primary) monitor. In this case Windows somehow still thinks that both monitors are there, so the apps which would open on the second monitor still do so, i.e. I can't see them when I start them, and the mouse goes easily beyond the active monitor.

Now, the second monitor is completely off - it has a real power switch. But it's possible that it still has some voltage through the connector so that Windows - or the graphic card - detects its presence. I have not tried to unplug it but maybe I should do that as well.

So finally my question - is it possible to make Windows aware that the second monitor is not in use and only extend the desktop when the second monitor is on and do that without restart/log off?

Thanks for any suggestion.
 

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ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT
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Samsung Syncmaster P2450
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If it's plugged in when you boot, Windows will assume it's in use and available...

No known Windoze workaround... connect multiple monitors, Windoze will 'think' they're all turned on and working - however you might find some third party software (like Ultramon for example) might be able to correct the problem... ;)
 

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Twin Dell (E-IPS) U2311H 23.6" Screens
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Thanks for the information Qdos! Oh well, I thought I could get away without third-party software ...
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate (x64)Q66008 GBATI Radeon HD 2600 XT
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Dell Inspiron 530
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Windows 7 Ultimate (x64)
CPU
Q6600
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8 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung Syncmaster P2450
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Samsung HD103UJ
Samsung HD501LJ
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Post any third party solution you end up using, lots of people are using more than one monitor and might benefit... and thanks very much for the +rep too... :)
 

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Custom built machine
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W7 x64
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Intel Q9300 2.5Ghz Quad LGA775 (Would like Q9650)
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Gigabyte GA-EP45T-UD3R (F6 Bios)
Memory
4Gb OCZ Gold 1,333Mhz
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Palit HD4850 O/C Sonic 512Mb DDR3, Dual DViD's
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Azalia to twin Samson 50w Studio Monitors
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Twin Dell (E-IPS) U2311H 23.6" Screens
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1920 x 1080 @ 60Hz
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Crucial M4 SSD, archives on twin Western Digital Caviar Black WD2002FAEX, 2TB, 7200rpm HDD's, Samsung Ritemaster CD/DVD Burner...
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OCZ 600w
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Lian-Li PC8 acoustifoamed' aluminium tower
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Scythe 140mm Zipang
Keyboard
Cherry PS/2 custom model
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Lenovo USB laser "Thinkpad" Mouse
Internet Speed
ADSL2+ @14Mbps downstream & Cat6 Gigabit Ethernet
Antivirus
NOD32
Browser
Opera
Other Info
Silicon Dust HD Homerun Dual FTA (Ethernet) TV Tuners, Dray Tek Vigor 2850Vn router and 8x HP Gigabit Switch. Lian-Li CR26 Card Reader, Canon MF4430 iSensys laser printer/scanner.
even though you have not powered the slave monitor its still listed in the control panel as ''extended desktop'' :)

& even if it did disable the desktop extension when you powered the 2nd monitor down, it would not transfer slave app desktop positions to the primary monitor....
 

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its a continual ''work in progress''....
Actually it turns out that Catalyst Control Center does the trick, sort of. I did not have it installed before, but today I was downloading the latest drivers and decided to give it a try. There is also some multi-monitor managing software they call Hydrovision, but I have not tried that one yet. Maybe it will improve things. I will post an update if this will be the case.

So, right-clicking on the ATI CCC icon in the system tray I have a menu with both of my displays besides other items. Each of the displays (although both named identically after the graphics card, go figure) have their own sub-menu and there for the secondary monitor I have an option of disabling it. If I do that, then applications that would open on the secondary monitor before start opening on the primary one.

That's good news - at least I am not losing application if I only run one of the monitors. Of course, I have to click on the menu to achieve that, but that's better than nothing.

The bigger problem is - once the secondary monitor is re-enabled, the applications I want there would not suddenly start there as they will remember their last position on the primary monitor.

So, the CCC solves the biggest problem I was having - losing applications completely (i.e. if they would start on the secondary monitor while it's off - I'd not see them and have no access to them). This is not the same as automatically detecting the second monitor and arranging the desktop accordingly. I will see if Hydrovision may help with that before looking for something like Ultramon, as Qdos has suggested above.
 

My Computer My Computer

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Windows 7 Ultimate (x64)Q66008 GBATI Radeon HD 2600 XT
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Inspiron 530
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate (x64)
CPU
Q6600
Memory
8 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung Syncmaster P2450
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Samsung HD103UJ
Samsung HD501LJ
Internet Speed
25 Mb/s
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