| Windows 7: PCIe compatible Graphics Card |
12 Jan 2010
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate 3 posts |
PCIe compatible Graphics Card Hi, I have a 2 year old PC with Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. 8I945GZME-RH motherboard, 2.80 gigahertz, Intel Pentium D, 16 kilobyte primary memory cache, 2048 kilobyte secondary memory cache, Bus Clock: 200 Megahertz, Power Supply: P4 ATX Version 1.3 Switching power supply, AC Input: 200-240V/63Hz/5 Amp. I am looking at a budget PCIe graphics card with good performance that will enable Windows 7 to work smoothly and high end graphic games to be played. The current on board graphics is not enough for even the low end games. The 7 and 8 series from NVIDIA are hard to find and the current in the market is the 9 series. Any suggestions here please. | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Assembled OS Windows 7 Ultimate CPU 2.80 gigahertz Intel Pentium D Motherboard Gigabyte 8I945GZME-RH motherboard Memory Transcend 1 GB installed in 2 slots of 512 MB each Graphics Card On board Sound Card on board and Realtek software used for enhancing the output Monitor(s) Displays 14 inch TFT Samsung PSU NA Case Tower Cooling Air cooled Hard Drives Seagate ST380211AS 80 GB |
12 Jan 2010
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| | Win 7 pro 64-bit, Ubuntu 9.10 64-bit 934 posts |
If you wanna stick with Nvidia (the way its meant to be played  ) My card, the 9400 GT is just what you are looking for, cheap ( i guess thats what you want) awesome, and playing those high-end games. 1gb memory of its own, and a 550 mhz Gpu.
If however, you want to cross over to ATI, they got some awesome cards too, like the 4670 which is also cheap and good (not as good, but good)
Hope this helps!
Coolness
H | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Acer Veriton m261 (modded) OS Win 7 pro 64-bit, Ubuntu 9.10 64-bit CPU Intel Core 2 Duo 2.60 Ghz Motherboard Whatever came with the system Memory 4 gb ddr2 667 Mhz Graphics Card NVidia Geforce 9400 GS 1 gb ddr2 550 mhz GPU Sound Card Intergrated Monitor(s) Displays samsung SyncMaster 2494 24" Screen Resolution 1080p Keyboard Apple Aluminium (Awesome) Mouse Some awesome Dell mouse, really good. PSU whatever came with the system Case whatever came with the system Cooling whatever came with the system Hard Drives 80gb - IDE
750gb - SATA II Internet Speed 100mbps |
12 Jan 2010
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| | Windows 7 Pro X64 SP1 2,616 posts Danbury, CT |
I don't know from personal experience, but it's possible that "high end graphic games" may not see adequate performance with an old Pentium D, regardless of the graphic card.
The PCI-E X16 slot on your mainboard is specified as X4 electrically. I don't know how much that would bottleneck a high-end graphics card.
That said, I'd guess that the best price/performance break at the moment is for the ATI Radeon HD4850. It can be had for about $100US at the moment ( www.newegg.com). That's with 512MB of VRAM; add another $25 for models with 1GB. It needs a single 6 pin PCI-E auxilliary power connector. (You may be able to use a Molex to PCI-E adapter, which is supplied with most cards.) You'd also want at least a 450W PSU, although wattage is a poor way to spec the PSU.
If you need a card that requires less electrical power, you could consider the Radeon HD4670. It gets all of its supply from the PCI-E slot. It's also less expensive than the 4850. (And considerably less powerful.)
I'm unfamiliar with the current nVidia product lineup. A lot of their "new" models have been relabelling of older products, possibly partially justified by die shrinks. I've used both nVidia and ATI cards. I prefer nVidia's drivers, but ATI sometimes offers better performance for the price. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number homegrown OS Windows 7 Pro X64 SP1 CPU Intel Core I7-3930k Motherboard Asus P9X79 Pro Memory 16 GB Gskill DDR3-2133 Graphics Card eVGA GTX680 Sound Card Creative X-Fi Titanium Monitor(s) Displays As PA246Q Screen Resolution 1920 X 1200 Keyboard cheap Logitech USB Mouse Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer (old optical) USB PSU PCP&C Silencer 750 Crossfire Case Silverstone FT02 Cooling Noctua NH-D14 Hard Drives Corsair Force GT, 120 GB
WDC 1.5TB Caviar Black Internet Speed 6Mb cable Other Info Pioneer BDR-205
Samsung SH-203B
Monsoon 5.1 speakers |
12 Jan 2010
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| | Windows 7 Ulitimate Beta 32 Bit, Windows Vista 32 Bit, Ubuntu 9.10 32 Bit 586 posts The Land of Those of Us With Red Necks |

Quote: Originally Posted by bobkn I don't know from personal experience, but it's possible that "high end graphic games" may not see adequate performance with an old Pentium D, regardless of the graphic card.
The PCI-E X16 slot on your mainboard is specified as X4 electrically. I don't know how much that would bottleneck a high-end graphics card.
That said, I'd guess that the best price/performance break at the moment is for the ATI Radeon HD4850. It can be had for about $100US at the moment ( www.newegg.com). That's with 512MB of VRAM; add another $25 for models with 1GB. It needs a single 6 pin PCI-E auxilliary power connector. (You may be able to use a Molex to PCI-E adapter, which is supplied with most cards.) You'd also want at least a 450W PSU, although wattage is a poor way to spec the PSU.
If you need a card that requires less electrical power, you could consider the Radeon HD4670. It gets all of its supply from the PCI-E slot. It's also less expensive than the 4850. (And considerably less powerful.)
I'm unfamiliar with the current nVidia product lineup. A lot of their "new" models have been relabelling of older products, possibly partially justified by die shrinks. I've used both nVidia and ATI cards. I prefer nVidia's drivers, but ATI sometimes offers better performance for the price. +1 the 4850 is a great card and so is the 4670 but it is slower... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Acer Aspire M1201/Custom Build OS Windows 7 Ulitimate Beta 32 Bit, Windows Vista 32 Bit, Ubuntu 9.10 32 Bit CPU AMD Athlon X2 5000+ @ 2.6Ghz Motherboard Acer Micro-ATX Motherboard Memory 4gb Patriot Viper PC6400 @ 800mhz Dual Channel (4-4-4-12) Graphics Card ATI HD3870 with 512mb GDDR4 Sound Card Realtek HD 7.1 Onboard Sound Monitor(s) Displays 22" Acer X223 Widescreen Screen Resolution 1680 X 1050 Keyboard Microsoft Sidewinder X6 Mouse Microsoft Sidewinder X5 PSU ULTRA X3 600 Watt Modular Case NZXT Tempest (The Airflow King) 2x 140mm Fans, 4x 120mm Fans Cooling 1x 135mm In PSU, 1x 70mm On CPU, And 1x 120mm Hard Drives 320gb Western Digital SATA II (Ubuntu 9.10)
500gb Seagate SATA II (Windows 7 Beta)
1tb Seagate SATA II (Vista Home Premium) Internet Speed 6 Mbs Down 1 Mbs Up Other Info AVerMedia 1500MCE TV Tuner
Logitech X540 5.1 Surround Sound |
12 Jan 2010
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| | Win 7 pro 64-bit, Ubuntu 9.10 64-bit 934 posts |

Quote: Originally Posted by ThePizzaMan 
Quote: Originally Posted by bobkn I don't know from personal experience, but it's possible that "high end graphic games" may not see adequate performance with an old Pentium D, regardless of the graphic card.
The PCI-E X16 slot on your mainboard is specified as X4 electrically. I don't know how much that would bottleneck a high-end graphics card.
That said, I'd guess that the best price/performance break at the moment is for the ATI Radeon HD4850. It can be had for about $100US at the moment ( www.newegg.com). That's with 512MB of VRAM; add another $25 for models with 1GB. It needs a single 6 pin PCI-E auxilliary power connector. (You may be able to use a Molex to PCI-E adapter, which is supplied with most cards.) You'd also want at least a 450W PSU, although wattage is a poor way to spec the PSU.
If you need a card that requires less electrical power, you could consider the Radeon HD4670. It gets all of its supply from the PCI-E slot. It's also less expensive than the 4850. (And considerably less powerful.)
I'm unfamiliar with the current nVidia product lineup. A lot of their "new" models have been relabelling of older products, possibly partially justified by die shrinks. I've used both nVidia and ATI cards. I prefer nVidia's drivers, but ATI sometimes offers better performance for the price. +1 the 4850 is a great card and so is the 4670 but it is slower... yeah... If the guy needs a fast card, go buy the 5970. Dont bug me about telling him to use a slower card. Since he has a pentium, im guessing he needs a cheap card, not a 600 pound card... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Acer Veriton m261 (modded) OS Win 7 pro 64-bit, Ubuntu 9.10 64-bit CPU Intel Core 2 Duo 2.60 Ghz Motherboard Whatever came with the system Memory 4 gb ddr2 667 Mhz Graphics Card NVidia Geforce 9400 GS 1 gb ddr2 550 mhz GPU Sound Card Intergrated Monitor(s) Displays samsung SyncMaster 2494 24" Screen Resolution 1080p Keyboard Apple Aluminium (Awesome) Mouse Some awesome Dell mouse, really good. PSU whatever came with the system Case whatever came with the system Cooling whatever came with the system Hard Drives 80gb - IDE
750gb - SATA II Internet Speed 100mbps |
12 Jan 2010
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| | Windows 7 Pro X64 SP1 2,616 posts Danbury, CT |

Quote: Originally Posted by Coolness yeah... If the guy needs a fast card, go buy the 5970. Dont bug me about telling him to use a slower card. Since he has a pentium, im guessing he needs a cheap card, not a 600 pound card... Sarcasm is rarely useful, even when it's clearly written (unlike the above).
Glad to be in the US. Here, the 5970 is a mere $600, rather than £600 (a bit less than $1k, at the current exchange rate.)
I suppose that I could have been more discouraging about making a silk purse (whizzbang gaming system) out of s sow's ear (Pentium D system with onboard graphics). | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number homegrown OS Windows 7 Pro X64 SP1 CPU Intel Core I7-3930k Motherboard Asus P9X79 Pro Memory 16 GB Gskill DDR3-2133 Graphics Card eVGA GTX680 Sound Card Creative X-Fi Titanium Monitor(s) Displays As PA246Q Screen Resolution 1920 X 1200 Keyboard cheap Logitech USB Mouse Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer (old optical) USB PSU PCP&C Silencer 750 Crossfire Case Silverstone FT02 Cooling Noctua NH-D14 Hard Drives Corsair Force GT, 120 GB
WDC 1.5TB Caviar Black Internet Speed 6Mb cable Other Info Pioneer BDR-205
Samsung SH-203B
Monsoon 5.1 speakers |
12 Jan 2010
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| | Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 764 posts |
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Built OS Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i5-2500K Motherboard ASUS P8P67 Memory 8GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3 Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX 670 FTW Sound Card ASUS Xonar DS Monitor(s) Displays SAMSUNG P2070 Screen Resolution 1600 x 900 @ 60Hz Keyboard Logitech K300 Black Mouse Genius on Steelseries 4HD Gaming pad PSU Corsair TX950W Case Corsair Obsidian 650D Cooling Thermaltake Frío Hard Drives WD Caviar Blue Other Info Headphones: Sennheiser HD-515 |
13 Jan 2010
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| | Win 7 pro 64-bit, Ubuntu 9.10 64-bit 934 posts |

Quote: Originally Posted by bobkn 
Quote: Originally Posted by Coolness yeah... If the guy needs a fast card, go buy the 5970. Dont bug me about telling him to use a slower card. Since he has a pentium, im guessing he needs a cheap card, not a 600 pound card... Sarcasm is rarely useful, even when it's clearly written (unlike the above).
Glad to be in the US. Here, the 5970 is a mere $600, rather than £600 (a bit less than $1k, at the current exchange rate.)
I suppose that I could have been more discouraging about making a silk purse (whizzbang gaming system) out of s sow's ear (Pentium D system with onboard graphics). Its still more than that god dam laptop! So are almost the card you suggested. If he has infinite amounts money (which i guess he doesnt) he can go and buy a better laptop, not a better GPU for a bad laptop...
And by the way: English is not my native, so please leave it out of this. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Acer Veriton m261 (modded) OS Win 7 pro 64-bit, Ubuntu 9.10 64-bit CPU Intel Core 2 Duo 2.60 Ghz Motherboard Whatever came with the system Memory 4 gb ddr2 667 Mhz Graphics Card NVidia Geforce 9400 GS 1 gb ddr2 550 mhz GPU Sound Card Intergrated Monitor(s) Displays samsung SyncMaster 2494 24" Screen Resolution 1080p Keyboard Apple Aluminium (Awesome) Mouse Some awesome Dell mouse, really good. PSU whatever came with the system Case whatever came with the system Cooling whatever came with the system Hard Drives 80gb - IDE
750gb - SATA II Internet Speed 100mbps |
13 Jan 2010
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| | Windows Seven Home Premium SP1 2,241 posts I Live At Home |
I must be missing something here Coolness, you can't change the GPU of any laptop.
Either get a whole new computer for what you need, or stick with what you got. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number New Laptop! - Samsung RV515 OS Windows Seven Home Premium SP1 CPU AMD E-450 Dual Core - 1.66GHz FSB 800MHz Memory 4 GB DDR3 Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 6470M 1GB GDDR3 Sound Card Integrated Monitor(s) Displays 15.6" ClearCrystal Display Screen Resolution 1366x768 Keyboard PS2 Mouse TouchPad Case Notebook Cooling Stock Hard Drives 1 Integrated 500GB hard drive
1 External HDD 1TB Internet Speed Download: 3.15 mb/s Upload: 0.38 mb/s |
13 Jan 2010
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| | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit 4,269 posts Southern Ohio |
Not to sound rude, but if you want to get into PC gaming ---->> Desktop.
Although some laptops are capable to an extent, they were never meant or designed to be gaming machines. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom (Self Build) OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU Intel Core i7 2700k Motherboard eVGA P67 SLI Memory 8GB Mushkin Redline Ridgebacks @1866 Graphics Card EVGA GTX570 SC Sound Card XiFi Titanium HD Monitor(s) Displays LG W2453V Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Saitek Cyborg PSU Seasonic x750 Case Corsair 600T SE White Cooling eVGA Superclocked CPU Cooler Hard Drives Intel 320 80GB -- Intel X25-V 40GB --WD Black 1TB x2 -- WD Blue 640GB Antivirus Kaspersky Browser IE Other Info LG BD/DVD PCIe compatible Graphics Card problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:52 PM. | |