| Windows 7: nVidia "nView Desktop Manager" |
01 Apr 2009
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#1 | | Windows 7 7600 x86 &x64, Windows XPP sp3 (x86) & sp2 x64 USA |
nVidia "nView Desktop Manager" I know that "nView" is not installed on Vista or Windows 7.
But, It is in the driver bundle pack, known as nview.cab..
I run 2 Graphics cards (both GeForce 9400 GT, one PCIe and one PCI), and 4 monitors, 2 ea Hanns-G HW191D's (19" Wide), 1 Hanns-G JC199D (19" Sq) and 1 AOC LM720 (17" Sq).
I use them on my Windows XP x64 OS, and design and develope projects a lot. My desire is to not allow windows to span across monitors. I use my each monitor for very specific uses.
One to monitor all operations in my system, one for monitoring my network and all activities by any of my other computers as well ( I have 7 that run quite often), and the other 2 for my design work and testing as well as any of my e-books or web sites on the research for my design work.
With Windows XP x86 and x64 the nView Desktop Manager is always available so I can set it for any specific application or function that I need.
But on Windows Vista (which I quit using, what a waste of money  ) and Windows 7 (which I am testing  ) do not have the ability to set any of my programs the way I need them to react. They can span monitors any time, especially when I try to run computer simulated actions or activities for diagnosing my designs.
Hope this didn't bore you to sleep.
My Question,
Is there a way to install the "nView Desktop Manager" on Windows 7?
I know that Windows 7 is the same core kernel as Vista. Does any one have any knowledge about the compatability of the nVidia drivers and software in the "Driver Bundle" packs for this windows core?
I have tried over and over again to get info from the nVidia Sites (including the basic forums and the Developer forums) but get no answers. | My System Specs |
| OS Windows 7 7600 x86 &x64, Windows XPP sp3 (x86) & sp2 x64 CPU C2Q 6600, C2D 6420, C2D T2060, C2-ATOM N270 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3, GA-G31M-ES2L, Lenovo 3000 N100, Acer A Memory 8 Gig, 4 Gig, 2 Gig, 1.5 Gig Graphics Card nVidia 9400 GS, 7200GT, FX 5200 Monitor(s) Displays 2-Hanns-G HW191D, 1-Hanns-G JC199D, 1-AOC 720LM, 2-Samtron Screen Resolution 1440x900, 1280x1024 Keyboard MS Natural Multimedia Mouse MS IntelliMouse 3.0 PSU many from 1000w to 250w Case many Cooling Massive fans on all, and my home build AC unit Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda 11 & 12 series
2-500G, 2-1Tb
WD My Book 1Tb
Samsung 3-500G
Maxtor Diamond 9 - 11 80G to 300G about 8 diff. Internet Speed 10Mbs d/l 768Kbs u/l |
02 Apr 2009
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case New England |
First make sure you have the "absolute latest" update from NVidia since that will likely be the Vista/7 beta version seen. I ran into that problem putting the ATI Catalyst 9.2 on 7 and no games would run seeing the OpenGL error come up. Once the 9.3 being the new Vista/7 beta not just Vista update went on... surprize! the games ran like they were new.
For regulating desktop wondering problem you may have to look at a 3rd party program you get running on 7 like Ultramon or another that takes over for the desktop manager. For seeing the Vista equivalent of the NView installed and working you may have to right click on the installer's executable for the compatibility tab.
The other option available for the first time in 7 is the use of the troubleshoot compatibility option that resolves problems by creating registry entries to set the mode as long term over one time. Some of the most reluctant programs and a few games as well that refused to go on Vista are now running on 7! | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case CPU AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 on new mini tower Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Mushkin on 2nd build Graphics Card MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower Sound Card Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer - Realtek onooard 2nd case Monitor(s) Displays 2 x Acer P191W 19" widesscreen - HP 20" widescreen mini towe Screen Resolution 1440x900 native - 1600x1024 on 7 Pro x64 build Keyboard Microsoft Recusa Razor - MS Comfort 3000 on second build Mouse MS Trackball Explorer - A4TECH dual scroll wheel trackball PSU Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second Case Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower Cooling Zalman CNPS9900A Hard Drives Primary Ultimate x64 build-
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 6.0 = 2
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 3.0 = 2 (OS drives)
WD 1tb Green Power sata = 2 1 external
usb flash drives = 18
Second 7 Pro x64 mini tower-
WD Caviar SE 500gb sata II single drive presen Internet Speed 30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi |
02 Apr 2009
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#3 | | Windows 7 7600 x86 &x64, Windows XPP sp3 (x86) & sp2 x64 USA |

Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk First make sure you have the "absolute latest" update from NVidia since that will likely be the Vista/7 beta version seen. I ran into that problem putting the ATI Catalyst 9.2 on 7 and no games would run seeing the OpenGL error come up. Once the 9.3 being the new Vista/7 beta not just Vista update went on... surprize! the games ran like they were new.
For regulating desktop wondering problem you may have to look at a 3rd party program you get running on 7 like Ultramon or another that takes over for the desktop manager. For seeing the Vista equivalent of the NView installed and working you may have to right click on the installer's executable for the compatibility tab.
The other option available for the first time in 7 is the use of the troubleshoot compatibility option that resolves problems by creating registry entries to set the mode as long term over one time. Some of the most reluctant programs and a few games as well that refused to go on Vista are now running on 7! Hey Night Hawk
Thanks for the reply.
A couple of things I know about.
I have the latest Windows 7 x64 beta version installed on my Windows 7 x64 OS, It works pretty good so far, but the "nView" part of the driver pack is not installed. I even tested it in the compatibility (vista) mode. Which it still didn't install the "nView" part.
UltraMon does not claim compatibility in Windows 7 yet (since last time I checked with them, last week).
I don't know of any other 3rd party app that can control the windows or apps settings like I require. (Do you know of any?).
And I have never seen that ATI has that capability. That is mainly why I went to nVidia Cards and software.
Thanks Night Hawk | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 7600 x86 &x64, Windows XPP sp3 (x86) & sp2 x64 CPU C2Q 6600, C2D 6420, C2D T2060, C2-ATOM N270 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3, GA-G31M-ES2L, Lenovo 3000 N100, Acer A Memory 8 Gig, 4 Gig, 2 Gig, 1.5 Gig Graphics Card nVidia 9400 GS, 7200GT, FX 5200 Monitor(s) Displays 2-Hanns-G HW191D, 1-Hanns-G JC199D, 1-AOC 720LM, 2-Samtron Screen Resolution 1440x900, 1280x1024 Keyboard MS Natural Multimedia Mouse MS IntelliMouse 3.0 PSU many from 1000w to 250w Case many Cooling Massive fans on all, and my home build AC unit Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda 11 & 12 series
2-500G, 2-1Tb
WD My Book 1Tb
Samsung 3-500G
Maxtor Diamond 9 - 11 80G to 300G about 8 diff. Internet Speed 10Mbs d/l 768Kbs u/l |
02 Apr 2009
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#4 | | Windows 7 Professional 64-bit |
Ultramon has a number of issues with Windows 7, just read their forums for an idea. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number self built OS Windows 7 Professional 64-bit CPU Intel E8400 3GHz Motherboard Intel DX48BT2 Memory Kingston PC3-10700H 4Gb Graphics Card XFX Radeon HD 5850 BlackEd. Sound Card Asus Xonar DG Monitor(s) Displays 2x Samsung SM-T220HD 22" Screen Resolution 1680x1050 on two monitors Keyboard Microsoft Comfort Curve USB Mouse Razer Diamondback 3G PSU Thermaltake ToughPower 850w Case Thermaltake Armor Cooling Scythe Mugen II Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 2 120gb 3.5" (OS)
Seagate Momentus XT 500gb
Samsung F3 1Tb (games)
2x Samsung F1 1Tb Internet Speed 8128/443 |
02 Apr 2009
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#5 | | Windows 7 7600 x86 &x64, Windows XPP sp3 (x86) & sp2 x64 USA |
Actual Window Manager I just found this, and they claim that it is compatible up to Windows 2008 RC2 x64 version.
Here is the link "Actual Window Manager" .
I am still reading there files and forum info, so far It seams prety good. I am going to try it in Win 7 x64 tomorrow when I get the time.
edit:
So far What I have read in their forums and info files is that it can do almost every thing that nView can do, and a couple of extras, like modified themes.
After I try it, (mainly on the functionality I need) I report back.
Hey swarfega,
I have already looked at the UltraMon forums, that is what I meant in my previous post. It aint that good in Win 7 | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 7600 x86 &x64, Windows XPP sp3 (x86) & sp2 x64 CPU C2Q 6600, C2D 6420, C2D T2060, C2-ATOM N270 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3, GA-G31M-ES2L, Lenovo 3000 N100, Acer A Memory 8 Gig, 4 Gig, 2 Gig, 1.5 Gig Graphics Card nVidia 9400 GS, 7200GT, FX 5200 Monitor(s) Displays 2-Hanns-G HW191D, 1-Hanns-G JC199D, 1-AOC 720LM, 2-Samtron Screen Resolution 1440x900, 1280x1024 Keyboard MS Natural Multimedia Mouse MS IntelliMouse 3.0 PSU many from 1000w to 250w Case many Cooling Massive fans on all, and my home build AC unit Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda 11 & 12 series
2-500G, 2-1Tb
WD My Book 1Tb
Samsung 3-500G
Maxtor Diamond 9 - 11 80G to 300G about 8 diff. Internet Speed 10Mbs d/l 768Kbs u/l |
02 Apr 2009
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#6 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case New England |
Before the dsl connection here suddenly got bumped I was trying to answer the Ultramon alternative MaxiVista seen at MaxiVista - How it works That provides you with a better control over the arrangement as well as extension or mirroring across multiple monitors.
The Start64 site has a page on that seen at 64bit and x64 - MaxiVista - Desktop Extension - 64bit
Both Ultramon and MaxiVista go back a few years seeing 2004 reviews on items like the 2.5 version released. Both ATI and NVidia do see their own hypervision however.
The key to getting anything to run on 7 at this time however if for XP or Vista is to right click on the installer's or main executable after installation and selecting the troubleshoot compatibility option now seen in 7. For 3rd party programs like either of those two that would be one idea.
The updates labeled for Vista/7 at NVidia seeing nview included like the Cat 9.3 by ATI would be the thing you want as well. It's a tuff call for 7 just now reaching the RC stage to put a guaranty on anything since the updates for 7 would be beta as well. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case CPU AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 on new mini tower Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Mushkin on 2nd build Graphics Card MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower Sound Card Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer - Realtek onooard 2nd case Monitor(s) Displays 2 x Acer P191W 19" widesscreen - HP 20" widescreen mini towe Screen Resolution 1440x900 native - 1600x1024 on 7 Pro x64 build Keyboard Microsoft Recusa Razor - MS Comfort 3000 on second build Mouse MS Trackball Explorer - A4TECH dual scroll wheel trackball PSU Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second Case Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower Cooling Zalman CNPS9900A Hard Drives Primary Ultimate x64 build-
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 6.0 = 2
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 3.0 = 2 (OS drives)
WD 1tb Green Power sata = 2 1 external
usb flash drives = 18
Second 7 Pro x64 mini tower-
WD Caviar SE 500gb sata II single drive presen Internet Speed 30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi |
02 Apr 2009
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Somewhere on the 3rd rock from the sun. |
Answer
From nVidia - they dropped (seemingly permanently) nView for Vista on GeForce cards....
*but* you could always try DisplayFusion: Multi-Monitor Taskbar and Desktop Wallpaper*|*Binary Fortress Software and see if that helps - I have a dual monitor setup, for instance, and with DF (not entirely sure if it is because of DF or if it is because of better multiple monitor suport in Windows 7) I moved my Thunderbird window to my secondary monitor, so I can check email and surf simultaneously - and now Thunderbird always opens in the secondary window, no matter how many times I close it, after warm boots, cold boots, etc... | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number The Beast Model V OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Core i7 965 EE @3.6 GHz Motherboard eVGA x58 Classified3 Memory 3 * 4GB Mushkin Enh Redline CL7 DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3-12800) Graphics Card eVGA 560 Ti 448 Core Classified + eVGA GTX260 SSC (PhysX) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio (on-board) Monitor(s) Displays 2 * Acer X213Wbd Screen Resolution 2 * 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Logitech G15 Keyboard Mouse Logitech Performance Mouse MX PSU ThermalTake BlackWidow TX TR2 850 W Case ThermalTake Level 10 GT (Black) Cooling Corsair H100 CPU | 2 * TT 140mm TriLED | 2 * Antec TriCool Hard Drives 1 * Intel Cheryville 520 180 GB SATA III SSD |
1 * Intel X-25M G2 80 GB SATA II SSD |
2 * Seagate 1 TB 32MB Cache 7200.12 SATA II Mech. Internet Speed Cable - 35 Mbit down / 12 Mbit up advertised (30 / 6 act.) Antivirus M$Se / MBAM Pro / WinPatrol Pro Browser Chome(dev) / Canary / Firefox Minefield / Opera Next / IE 10 Other Info Wacom Bamboo Touch |
Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-1850 |
Optimus STAV-3400 AV Receiver |
Bose 301 Series III Speakers (Main channel) |
Bose 161 Speakers (Surround) |
Optimus 3 way 100-W speaker (Center) |
Logitech Clearchat PC Wireless Headset |
Koss ProDJ 100 Headphones |
Microsoft LifeCam Studio |
Motorola Droid BIONIC |
ASUS Transformer Infinity 64GB |
02 Apr 2009
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case New England |
That figures! Once Vista and 7 starting taking over by adding in a new support NVidia simply let that go. The other two programs are a bit older while the MaxiVista seemed a little more updated. At least you know that one sees full support for 7 as the 3.0 version is also on the way for that. DisplayFusion Version Comparison*|*Binary Fortress Software | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case CPU AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 on new mini tower Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Mushkin on 2nd build Graphics Card MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower Sound Card Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer - Realtek onooard 2nd case Monitor(s) Displays 2 x Acer P191W 19" widesscreen - HP 20" widescreen mini towe Screen Resolution 1440x900 native - 1600x1024 on 7 Pro x64 build Keyboard Microsoft Recusa Razor - MS Comfort 3000 on second build Mouse MS Trackball Explorer - A4TECH dual scroll wheel trackball PSU Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second Case Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower Cooling Zalman CNPS9900A Hard Drives Primary Ultimate x64 build-
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 6.0 = 2
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 3.0 = 2 (OS drives)
WD 1tb Green Power sata = 2 1 external
usb flash drives = 18
Second 7 Pro x64 mini tower-
WD Caviar SE 500gb sata II single drive presen Internet Speed 30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi |
02 Apr 2009
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#9 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Somewhere on the 3rd rock from the sun. |
Actually, Jon sent out a tweet earlier that says the following: 
Quote: Originally Posted by Jon @ BinaryFortress Windows 7 support in DisplayFusion 3.0.3 is done. It looks and worked awesome. I can't wait to release it! | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number The Beast Model V OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Core i7 965 EE @3.6 GHz Motherboard eVGA x58 Classified3 Memory 3 * 4GB Mushkin Enh Redline CL7 DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3-12800) Graphics Card eVGA 560 Ti 448 Core Classified + eVGA GTX260 SSC (PhysX) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio (on-board) Monitor(s) Displays 2 * Acer X213Wbd Screen Resolution 2 * 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Logitech G15 Keyboard Mouse Logitech Performance Mouse MX PSU ThermalTake BlackWidow TX TR2 850 W Case ThermalTake Level 10 GT (Black) Cooling Corsair H100 CPU | 2 * TT 140mm TriLED | 2 * Antec TriCool Hard Drives 1 * Intel Cheryville 520 180 GB SATA III SSD |
1 * Intel X-25M G2 80 GB SATA II SSD |
2 * Seagate 1 TB 32MB Cache 7200.12 SATA II Mech. Internet Speed Cable - 35 Mbit down / 12 Mbit up advertised (30 / 6 act.) Antivirus M$Se / MBAM Pro / WinPatrol Pro Browser Chome(dev) / Canary / Firefox Minefield / Opera Next / IE 10 Other Info Wacom Bamboo Touch |
Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-1850 |
Optimus STAV-3400 AV Receiver |
Bose 301 Series III Speakers (Main channel) |
Bose 161 Speakers (Surround) |
Optimus 3 way 100-W speaker (Center) |
Logitech Clearchat PC Wireless Headset |
Koss ProDJ 100 Headphones |
Microsoft LifeCam Studio |
Motorola Droid BIONIC |
ASUS Transformer Infinity 64GB |
03 Apr 2009
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#10 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case New England |
If it will work there you have it! With 4 monitors LarryLaser will need something there to work with. You want to see something that will be updated as well as simply able to run on 7 for the long term. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case CPU AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 on new mini tower Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Mushkin on 2nd build Graphics Card MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower Sound Card Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer - Realtek onooard 2nd case Monitor(s) Displays 2 x Acer P191W 19" widesscreen - HP 20" widescreen mini towe Screen Resolution 1440x900 native - 1600x1024 on 7 Pro x64 build Keyboard Microsoft Recusa Razor - MS Comfort 3000 on second build Mouse MS Trackball Explorer - A4TECH dual scroll wheel trackball PSU Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second Case Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower Cooling Zalman CNPS9900A Hard Drives Primary Ultimate x64 build-
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 6.0 = 2
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 3.0 = 2 (OS drives)
WD 1tb Green Power sata = 2 1 external
usb flash drives = 18
Second 7 Pro x64 mini tower-
WD Caviar SE 500gb sata II single drive presen Internet Speed 30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi nVidia "nView Desktop Manager" problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:53 PM. | |