LCD Native Resolution, EDID and 59Hz issues

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  1. Posts : 1,519
    El Capitan / Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #11

    donpsycho said:
    These are my EDID Information. i have a 23" 1920x1080 Monitor hooked up to a ati 4830 via hdmi. crysis and far cry 2 only work with dx9 for me but world in conlfict , company of heros and battleforge work fine with dx10
    That EDID is perfectly formed. What specific issues are you encountering? Is it just that Windows 7 is showing 59Hz instead of 60? That's known and unless it's causing issues, it can be ignored. Exact 1080p is at 59.94Hz and Windows is just rounding down...
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  2. Posts : 2
    Win 7
       #12

    the problem is the windows vista/7 desktop and these two directx 10 games dont use the full monitor when i choos a resolution higher than 1440x900 the image gets scaled down to 1440x900 and i have black borders surrounding the displayed content... exept in crysis there i get an out of range error when i choose 1920x1080 but every other resolution results in 1440x900.

    with the desktop it is no problem i just use the ccc and use overscan. But it dont seem to apply to the games.

    world in conflict and coh have the same issu unless i activate 1080p60 in the hdtv support...

    and i dont know how it corresponds with the problem but when ich run far cry 2 in dx9 i can choos 50 59 and 60 herz in dx10 only 50 and 60

    the wierd thing is that the error only occurs with dx10. when i start the games in dx9 there is no problem selecting 1920x1080.
    Last edited by donpsycho; 13 Jun 2009 at 04:05.
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  3. Posts : 12
    XP Pro SP3 / Windows 7 RC
       #13

    omg this is the exact problem im having! It made Win7 practically unusable and i had to fux with 3 different cable types to even get my resolution to fill the screen

    In XP, you could manually set the rate in dxdiag, but the option is unavailable in Win7.

    Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!
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  4. Posts : 10
    Windows 7 RC x64
       #14

    Hello
    I already postet part of the EDID informations in the following thread:
    59Hz

    The main issue is, that some games are at a fixed resolution of e.g. 1024x768@59Hz and are centered in the middle of the screen while everything around it is black. The reported resolution from my monitor is 1920x1200?! I can reproduce that effect with my desktop: Setting it to 1024x768@59Hz = 1920x1200 real and desktop centered. Setting it to 1024x768@60Hz (here 60Hz work fine!) = 1024x768 real and I can scale the image with my monitor osd.

    But here is the complete one, if you prefer the .dat-file, you'll find it here.
    Monitor
    Model name............... 24WMGX3
    Manufacturer............. NEC
    Plug and Play ID......... NEC6752
    Serial number............ 8X103133TB
    Manufacture date......... 2008, ISO week 43
    -------------------------
    EDID revision............ 1.3
    Input signal type........ Digital
    Color bit depth.......... Undefined
    Display type............. RGB color
    Screen size.............. 520 x 320 mm (24,0 in)
    Power management......... Standby, Suspend, Active off/sleep
    Extension blocs.......... None
    -------------------------
    DDC/CI................... Supported
    MCCS revison............. 2.1
    Display technology....... TFT
    Controller............... Genesis 0x4A
    Firmware revision........ Not supported
    Active power on time..... Not supported
    Current frequency........ 16769,79kHz, 220,18Hz

    Color characteristics
    Default color space...... Non-sRGB
    Display gamma............ 2,20
    Red chromaticity......... Rx 0,653 - Ry 0,337
    Green chromaticity....... Gx 0,295 - Gy 0,607
    Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0,144 - By 0,075
    White point (default).... Wx 0,313 - Wy 0,329
    Additional descriptors... None

    Timing characteristics
    Horizontal scan range.... 31-83kHz
    Vertical scan range...... 49-76Hz
    Video bandwidth.......... 170MHz
    CVT standard............. Not supported
    GTF standard............. Not supported
    Additional descriptors... None
    Preferred timing......... Yes
    Native/preferred timing.. 1920x1200p at 60Hz (16:10)
    Modeline............... "1920x1200" 154,000 1920 1968 2000 2080 1200 1203 1209 1235 +hsync -vsync

    Standard timings supported
    720 x 400p at 70Hz - IBM VGA
    640 x 480p at 60Hz - IBM VGA
    640 x 480p at 67Hz - Apple Mac II
    640 x 480p at 72Hz - VESA
    640 x 480p at 75Hz - VESA
    800 x 600p at 56Hz - VESA
    800 x 600p at 60Hz - VESA
    800 x 600p at 72Hz - VESA
    800 x 600p at 75Hz - VESA
    832 x 624p at 75Hz - Apple Mac II
    1024 x 768p at 60Hz - VESA
    1024 x 768p at 70Hz - VESA
    1024 x 768p at 75Hz - VESA
    1280 x 1024p at 75Hz - VESA
    1152 x 870p at 75Hz - Apple Mac II
    1152 x 864p at 75Hz - VESA STD
    1280 x 1024p at 60Hz - VESA STD
    1600 x 1200p at 60Hz - VESA STD
    1280 x 960p at 60Hz - VESA STD
    1440 x 900p at 60Hz - VESA STD
    1400 x 1050p at 60Hz - VESA STD
    1680 x 1050p at 60Hz - VESA STD
    1920 x 1200p at 60Hz - VESA STD

    Report information
    Date generated........... 24.08.2009
    Software revision........ 2.30.0.797
    Operating system......... 6.1.7100.2

    Raw data
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  5. Posts : 38
    Windows 7 Ultimate x86
       #15

    Here's mine, seems I'm at 59.9 XD It does bug me though...

    Monitor
    Model name............... Acer X193W+
    Manufacturer............. Acer
    Plug and Play ID......... ACR0014
    Serial number............ LBE090263610
    Manufacture date......... 2008, ISO week 42
    -------------------------
    EDID revision............ 1.3
    Input signal type........ Digital
    Color bit depth.......... Undefined
    Display type............. RGB color
    Screen size.............. 410 x 260 mm (19.1 in)
    Power management......... Active off/sleep
    Extension blocs.......... None
    -------------------------
    DDC/CI................... Supported
    MCCS revison............. 2.0
    Display technology....... TFT
    Controller............... Mstar 0x0
    Firmware revision........ 0.1
    Firmware flags........... 0x800078
    Active power on time..... 1701 hours
    Current frequency........ 16711.81kHz, 59.90Hz

    Color characteristics
    Default color space...... sRGB
    Display gamma............ 2.20
    Red chromaticity......... Rx 0.644 - Ry 0.348
    Green chromaticity....... Gx 0.286 - Gy 0.603
    Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0.143 - By 0.070
    White point (default).... Wx 0.313 - Wy 0.329
    Additional descriptors... None

    Timing characteristics
    Horizontal scan range.... 30-82kHz
    Vertical scan range...... 56-76Hz
    Video bandwidth.......... 160MHz
    CVT standard............. Not supported
    GTF standard............. Not supported
    Additional descriptors... None
    Preferred timing......... Yes
    Native/preferred timing.. 1680x1050p at 60Hz (16:10)
    Modeline............... "1680x1050" 146.250 1680 1784 1960 2240 1050 1053 1059 1089 -hsync +vsync

    Standard timings supported
    720 x 400p at 70Hz - IBM VGA
    640 x 480p at 60Hz - IBM VGA
    640 x 480p at 67Hz - Apple Mac II
    640 x 480p at 72Hz - VESA
    640 x 480p at 75Hz - VESA
    800 x 600p at 56Hz - VESA
    800 x 600p at 60Hz - VESA
    800 x 600p at 72Hz - VESA
    800 x 600p at 75Hz - VESA
    832 x 624p at 75Hz - Apple Mac II
    1024 x 768p at 60Hz - VESA
    1024 x 768p at 70Hz - VESA
    1024 x 768p at 75Hz - VESA
    1280 x 1024p at 75Hz - VESA
    1280 x 1024p at 60Hz - VESA STD
    1280 x 960p at 60Hz - VESA STD
    1152 x 864p at 75Hz - VESA STD
    1440 x 900p at 60Hz - VESA STD
    1440 x 900p at 75Hz - VESA STD
    1680 x 1050p at 60Hz - VESA STD
    1280 x 720p at 60Hz - VESA STD
    1600 x 1200p at 60Hz - VESA STD

    Report information
    Date generated........... 8/24/2009
    Software revision........ 2.30.0.797
    Operating system......... 6.1.7600.2

    Raw data
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  6. Posts : 5
    Win 7 RC
       #16

    I just bought a 2433bw (1920x1200) and it's saying my native res is 1280x1024, and I can't get it any higher than 1280x1024

    I added in a custom res in nvidia drivers, and it got to 1920x1080, but for 1920x1200 it said it wasn't supported

    It won't let me turn off scaling either

    Monitor
    Model name............... SyncMaster
    Manufacturer............. Samsung
    Plug and Play ID......... SAM0161
    Serial number............ n/a
    Manufacture date......... 2004, ISO week 20
    -------------------------
    EDID revision............ 1.3
    Input signal type........ Digital
    Color bit depth.......... Undefined
    Display type............. RGB color
    Screen size.............. 340 x 270 mm (17.1 in)
    Power management......... Active off/sleep
    Extension blocs.......... None
    -------------------------
    DDC/CI................... Supported
    MCCS revison............. 2.0
    Display technology....... TFT
    Controller............... Mstar 0x1000
    Firmware revision........ 0.1
    Firmware flags........... 0x1
    Active power on time..... Not supported
    Current frequency........ Not supported

    Color characteristics
    Default color space...... Non-sRGB
    Display gamma............ 2.20
    Red chromaticity......... Rx 0.640 - Ry 0.330
    Green chromaticity....... Gx 0.300 - Gy 0.600
    Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0.150 - By 0.060
    White point (default).... Wx 0.313 - Wy 0.329
    Additional descriptors... None

    Timing characteristics
    Horizontal scan range.... 30-81kHz
    Vertical scan range...... 56-75Hz
    Video bandwidth.......... 140MHz
    CVT standard............. Not supported
    GTF standard............. Not supported
    Additional descriptors... None
    Preferred timing......... Yes
    Native/preferred timing.. 1024x768p at 60Hz (5:4)
    Modeline............... "1024x768" 65.000 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync
    Detailed timing #1....... 1280x1024p at 60Hz (5:4)
    Modeline............... "1280x1024" 108.000 1280 1328 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync

    Standard timings supported
    720 x 400p at 70Hz - IBM VGA
    640 x 480p at 60Hz - IBM VGA
    640 x 480p at 67Hz - Apple Mac II
    640 x 480p at 72Hz - VESA
    640 x 480p at 75Hz - VESA
    800 x 600p at 56Hz - VESA
    800 x 600p at 60Hz - VESA
    800 x 600p at 72Hz - VESA
    800 x 600p at 75Hz - VESA
    832 x 624p at 75Hz - Apple Mac II
    1024 x 768p at 60Hz - VESA
    1024 x 768p at 70Hz - VESA
    1024 x 768p at 75Hz - VESA
    1280 x 1024p at 75Hz - VESA
    1280 x 1024p at 60Hz - VESA STD

    Report information
    Date generated........... 9/09/2009
    Software revision........ 2.30.0.797
    Operating system......... 6.1.7600.2

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    Update... I've just installed the manufacturer drivers and Microsoft drivers for my monitor, and now MonInfo doesn't show a 'Real time' option, only a Registry one. The registry one is the same as above.... even though I've installed the drivers
    Last edited by mejobloggs; 09 Sep 2009 at 07:41.
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  7. Posts : 7
    Windows 7 64bit
       #17

    Please tell me that there is a solution to this problem...

    I would post my MonInfo, but I don't have my moniotr in "Display IDs", just four [Sample]s with names like ABC.

    If there's no soluiton yet, I swear, I'm gonna cut myself :P.
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  8. Posts : 7
    Windows 7 64 Bit
       #18

    Monitor EDID corrupt - Now Win7 blurry


    Baarod,

    I still have a problem after Win 7 stopped recognizing my Viewsonic VP950B monitor. During a reboot something happened and I would imagine that the EDID in the monitor got corrupted. (sent the monitor back for repair.

    Win 7 does recognize another VP950b that I have here but now my screen is a bit fuzzy and I cannot make cleartype fonts look good. I am at the native screen resolution, etc. but it seems that something is just not as it appears.

    Your post got me thinking that maybe there is a corruption in the cahed EDID info?

    Any ideas?
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  9. Posts : 1
    Windows 7
       #19

    problem


    Hi,

    Slightly off topic, but it is EDID related, n u guys seem to know what your on about n i desperately want help so here goes.

    Basically there is a known problem with Nvidia cards to Philips TVs.

    What happens is when I connect through HDMI the TV flashes up 'no video signal' or 'unsupported video format'.I've been through allsorts like length or quality of cable, changing drivers, resolutions, refresh rates, tinkering with Nvidia control things, nothing.

    Looked on here and got a resolution:

    GTX280 and HDMI to DVI problems - NVIDIA Forums

    HOWEVER, since upgrading drivers to windows 7 version, things have changed and its back.

    The problem is the EDID of the TV as a monitor, and in older drivers there was a .inf fix to override it, but in newer drivers for Nvidia the layout on the .inf is different so this fails. I would happily keep the old driver, but it prevents my ability to play blurays which is a big part of my computer (media center).

    Old layout of .inf

    [nv_SoftwareDeviceSettings_GT2x]
    HKR,, InstalledDisplayDrivers, %REG_MULTI_SZ%, "nvd3dumx,nvd3dum"
    HKR,, UserModeDriverName, %REG_MULTI_SZ%, "nvd3dumx.dll"
    HKR,, UserModeDriverNameWoW, %REG_MULTI_SZ%, "nvd3dum.dll"
    HKR,, UserModeDriverGUID, %REG_SZ%, "{9A516B97-E7C1-451B-9165-C5035994A3F5}"
    HKR,, VgaCompatible, %REG_DWORD%, 0
    HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run",NvSvc,,"RUNDLL32.EXE %11%\nvsvc64.dll,nvsvcStart"
    HKR,, MultiFunctionSupported, %REG_DWORD%, 1
    HKR,, NV_R&T, %REG_MULTI_SZ%, "R&T0000=*,*,*,*,*,IBM251F.VSC2F0C.VSC3411.VSC3E19.CMO0506,
    HDLK"
    HKR,, NV_R&T, %REG_SZ_APPEND%, "R&T0001=1920,1080,*,30,*,CRTX,OEM,7425,2200,48,56,562,2,5,
    ++I"
    HKR,, NV_R&T, %REG_SZ_APPEND%, "R&T0002=1920,1080,*,60,*,BNQ766A,OEM,13850,2080,48,32,1111
    ,3,5,+-"
    HKR,, NV_R&T, %REG_SZ_APPEND%, "R&T0003=1920,1200,*,60,*,BNQ766A,OEM,15399,2080,48,32,1235
    ,3,6,+-"
    HKR,, NV_R&T, %REG_SZ_APPEND%, "R&T0004=1920,1200,*,60,009D,*,OEM,15399,2080,48,32,1235,3,
    6,+-"
    HKR,, RMDisableInst2Sys, %REG_DWORD%, 1
    HKR,, RMCacheLoc, %REG_DWORD%, 0
    HKR,, PowerMizerEnable, %REG_DWORD%, 0
    HKR,, PowerMizerLevel, %REG_DWORD%, 0
    HKR,, PowerMizerLevelAC, %REG_DWORD%, 0
    HKR,, ModesetBlankDelay, %REG_DWORD%, 150
    HKR,, OverrideEdidFlags0, %REG_BINARY%, 41,0C,00,00,00,00,FF,FF,04,00,00,00,7E,01,00
    HKLM,"SOFTWARE\Microsoft\TMM",UseIViewHelper,%REG_DWORD%, 1

    The fix line is in bold, and the numbers are the EDID code of my tv.

    new drivers layout:

    HKR,,OverlaySharpness
    HKR,,Override1400x1050
    HKR,,OverrideDisRM4High
    HKR,,OverrideEdidFlags0
    HKR,,OverrideEdidFlags1
    HKR,,OverrideEdidFlags2
    HKR,,OverrideEdidFlags3
    HKR,,OverrideEdidFlags4
    HKR,,OverrideSBIOSDevs
    HKR,,PMClocksHighRes

    Any ideas guys?

    Cheers
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  10. Posts : 1
    Windows 7 64-bit
       #20

    Hi!

    First of all, sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I'm having some Hz-problems.
    Yesterday I changed my gfxcard from Radeon HD 4890 to a Radeon HD 5850 and now I'm unable to change Hz on my monitor. CCC (Catalyst control center) tells me that the maximum allowed refreshrate is 60Hz, but I've used 100Hz on this monitor when I had the 4890-card. The monitor is a CRT 19" from shg.dk. The 'name' of the monitor is "shg Computers" (k-900 according to MonInfo).

    Information from MonInfo
    Code:
    Monitor
      Model name............... K-900
      Windows description...... Generic PnP Monitor 
      Manufacturer............. KTC
      Plug and Play ID......... KTC1900
      Data string.............. K T C Monitor Made In China
      Serial number............ n/a
      Manufacture date......... 2004, ISO week 29
      -------------------------
      EDID revision............ 1.0
      Input signal type........ Analog 0.700,0.300 (1.0V p-p)
      Sync input support....... Separate
      Display type............. RGB color
      Screen size.............. 360 x 270 mm (17,7 in)
      Power management......... Standby, Suspend, Active off/sleep
      Extension blocs.......... None
      -------------------------
      DDC/CI................... n/a
    
    Color characteristics
      Default color space...... Non-sRGB
      Display gamma............ 2,53
      Red chromaticity......... Rx 0,625 - Ry 0,340
      Green chromaticity....... Gx 0,310 - Gy 0,529
      Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0,150 - By 0,063
      White point (default).... Wx 0,281 - Wy 0,311
      Additional descriptors... None
    
    Timing characteristics
      Range limits............. Not available
      GTF standard............. Not supported
      Additional descriptors... None
      Preferred timing......... No
    
    Standard timings supported
         720 x  400p at  70Hz - IBM VGA
         640 x  480p at  60Hz - IBM VGA
         640 x  480p at  75Hz - VESA
         800 x  600p at  75Hz - VESA
        1024 x  768p at  60Hz - VESA
        1024 x  768p at  70Hz - VESA
        1024 x  768p at  75Hz - VESA
        1280 x 1024p at  75Hz - VESA
        1152 x  870p at  75Hz - Apple Mac II
         640 x  480p at  85Hz - Manufacturer
         800 x  600p at  85Hz - Manufacturer
        1024 x  768p at  85Hz - Manufacturer
        1280 x 1024p at  85Hz - Manufacturer
        1600 x 1200p at  75Hz - Manufacturer
         800 x  600p at  85Hz - VESA STD
        1024 x  768p at  85Hz - VESA STD
         800 x  600p at 100Hz - VESA STD
        1024 x  768p at 100Hz - VESA STD
        1280 x 1024p at  85Hz - VESA STD
        1600 x 1200p at  60Hz - VESA STD
        1600 x 1200p at  70Hz - VESA STD
        1600 x 1200p at  75Hz - VESA STD
    
    Report information
      Date generated........... 2010-06-05
      Software revision........ 2.51.0.853
      Operating system......... 6.1.7600.2
    
    Raw data
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    Snapshot from CCC:



    So, if anyone has any idea on how to "remove" the hertz-limit enforced by CCC that'd be great, since I get headaches when having only 60Hz
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