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26 Apr 2010
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#1 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 |
nVidia GT 220 or 9500 GT? I'm building a computer and I don't know which one to get. I plan to use it for playing newer games such as SWTFU, Call of Duty, and other uhm...this generation games.
The system I plan on using it with is as follows:
Motherboard: ASRock M3A770DE
Memory: 4GB DDR3
Processor: AMD Phenom II X2 550 @ 3.31 GHz
GT 220: Newegg.com - Galaxy 22TGE8HX2IUN GeForce GT 220 1GB 128-bit DDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
9500GT: Newegg.com - EVGA 01G-P3-N958-LR GeForce 9500 GT 1GB 128-bit DDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
I'm looking for a semi-cheap card but at the same time I don't want to sacrifice performance. If you guys recommend something different, feel free to do so lol. I would also like to stay with nVidia, I've always had bad luck with ATI... | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X2 @ 3.1 GHz Motherboard ASRock M3A770DE Memory Crucial Rendition 2GB DDR3 Graphics Card nVidia GeForce GT 220 Sound Card SoundMax Digital HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays DCLCD 19" (DCL9C) Screen Resolution 1280X1024 Keyboard Logitech Wave Mouse Logitech LX3 PSU Eagle Voltas 600W Case PGS Aero Cool Cooling 120mm, 100mm,100mm, 70mm, 20mm Hard Drives 320GB Seagate Barracuda SATA 7200RPM (ST3320820AS)
320GB Seagate Barracuda SATA 7200RPM (ST3320820AS)
100 Seagate Barracuda IDE 7200RPM (ST3100011A)
40GB Samsung SP0411N IDE 7200 RPM
40GB Western Digital Caviar IDE 7200RPM (WD400)
160GB Maxtor Q Internet Speed 3Mb/s |
26 Apr 2010
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#2 | | |
Neither. The memory interface on those cards is low (128-bit). That's why they're so cheap. You'll get much better performance out of a card with a higher memory interface (256-bit+). The ram isn't as important, you can get away with a 512MB card, but if you really want the 1GB it's only $15 more.
I.E. EVGA GeForce 9800 GT - 512MB 256-bit DDR3 PCIe x16 2.0 $75 after mail in rebate
If you really want the 1GB of ram, go with this card: EVGA GeForce 9800 GT - 1GB 256-bit DDR3 PCIe x16 2.0 $90 after mail in rebate
Memory interface is much more important than the amount of ram. You'll notice much more difference between the two. ATI increases theirs mostly with GDDR5 ram topping out at 256-bit and NVIDIA stuck with GDDR3 which tops out at about 448-bit so far. According to some sources, GDDR5 is twice as fast but you also have to take into account the memory interface itself with an equivalent ATI card to the 9800 GT only running at 128-bit. The same is with the higher end cards, the high 5 series are 256-bit and the GTX 2 series is 448-bit. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Apple Macbook Pro (April 2009) OS W7 Ult. x64 | OS X CPU Intel Mobile Core 2 Duo 2.93Ghz [T9800 Penryn] Motherboard NVIDIA nForce 730i Rev. B1 [Mac-F2268EC8 (U2E1)] Memory 4096MB Samsung DDR3 Dual Channel [PC3-8500F 1066Mhz] Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT 512MB [G96M Rev. C1] Sound Card SB X-Fi Surround 5.1 USB | Onboard Realtek (Disabled) Monitor(s) Displays Acer x223wbd 22" | Apple Anti-Glare 17" (Disabled) Screen Resolution {Current} 1440x900 {Acer} 1680x1050 {Apple} 1920x1200 Keyboard Logitech G-15v2 [PN 920-000379] Mouse Logitech G-9 [PN 910-000338] PSU Magsafe Case Aluminum/Unibody (MBP52) Cooling 2 x 6000 RPM Fans Hard Drives {Internal}
Seagate Momentus 320GB 2.5" 7200RPM [ST9320421AS]
{Externals}
LaCie 320GB USB 2.0 HDD [301284UR]
LaCie 750GB USB 2.0 FW400 eSATA HDD [301314U]
LaCie 1TB USB 2.0 HDD [301304UR] Internet Speed 12Mbps/2.5Mbps w/ 24Mbps Speed Boost [Comcast] Other Info Logitech X-540 Speakers [PN 970223-0122]
Sennheiser PC-151 Headset |
26 Apr 2010
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#3 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 |
I see, is there a significant difference? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X2 @ 3.1 GHz Motherboard ASRock M3A770DE Memory Crucial Rendition 2GB DDR3 Graphics Card nVidia GeForce GT 220 Sound Card SoundMax Digital HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays DCLCD 19" (DCL9C) Screen Resolution 1280X1024 Keyboard Logitech Wave Mouse Logitech LX3 PSU Eagle Voltas 600W Case PGS Aero Cool Cooling 120mm, 100mm,100mm, 70mm, 20mm Hard Drives 320GB Seagate Barracuda SATA 7200RPM (ST3320820AS)
320GB Seagate Barracuda SATA 7200RPM (ST3320820AS)
100 Seagate Barracuda IDE 7200RPM (ST3100011A)
40GB Samsung SP0411N IDE 7200 RPM
40GB Western Digital Caviar IDE 7200RPM (WD400)
160GB Maxtor Q Internet Speed 3Mb/s |
26 Apr 2010
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#4 | | |
Between the 512MB and 1GB? I'd say not a huge difference, but there will be a difference. If you're worried about it, spend the extra $15. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Apple Macbook Pro (April 2009) OS W7 Ult. x64 | OS X CPU Intel Mobile Core 2 Duo 2.93Ghz [T9800 Penryn] Motherboard NVIDIA nForce 730i Rev. B1 [Mac-F2268EC8 (U2E1)] Memory 4096MB Samsung DDR3 Dual Channel [PC3-8500F 1066Mhz] Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT 512MB [G96M Rev. C1] Sound Card SB X-Fi Surround 5.1 USB | Onboard Realtek (Disabled) Monitor(s) Displays Acer x223wbd 22" | Apple Anti-Glare 17" (Disabled) Screen Resolution {Current} 1440x900 {Acer} 1680x1050 {Apple} 1920x1200 Keyboard Logitech G-15v2 [PN 920-000379] Mouse Logitech G-9 [PN 910-000338] PSU Magsafe Case Aluminum/Unibody (MBP52) Cooling 2 x 6000 RPM Fans Hard Drives {Internal}
Seagate Momentus 320GB 2.5" 7200RPM [ST9320421AS]
{Externals}
LaCie 320GB USB 2.0 HDD [301284UR]
LaCie 750GB USB 2.0 FW400 eSATA HDD [301314U]
LaCie 1TB USB 2.0 HDD [301304UR] Internet Speed 12Mbps/2.5Mbps w/ 24Mbps Speed Boost [Comcast] Other Info Logitech X-540 Speakers [PN 970223-0122]
Sennheiser PC-151 Headset |
26 Apr 2010
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#5 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 |
I'm not, I'm just wanting to be able to play modern games on max settings without a performance lag. I currently have a GeForce Go 7600 which sucks majorly, especially when playing not-so-much modern games such as Half-Life 2. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X2 @ 3.1 GHz Motherboard ASRock M3A770DE Memory Crucial Rendition 2GB DDR3 Graphics Card nVidia GeForce GT 220 Sound Card SoundMax Digital HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays DCLCD 19" (DCL9C) Screen Resolution 1280X1024 Keyboard Logitech Wave Mouse Logitech LX3 PSU Eagle Voltas 600W Case PGS Aero Cool Cooling 120mm, 100mm,100mm, 70mm, 20mm Hard Drives 320GB Seagate Barracuda SATA 7200RPM (ST3320820AS)
320GB Seagate Barracuda SATA 7200RPM (ST3320820AS)
100 Seagate Barracuda IDE 7200RPM (ST3100011A)
40GB Samsung SP0411N IDE 7200 RPM
40GB Western Digital Caviar IDE 7200RPM (WD400)
160GB Maxtor Q Internet Speed 3Mb/s |
27 Apr 2010
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#6 | | Windows 7 ultimate 64 bit / XP Home sp3 Gulf Coast Texas |
IMO If your looking to play modern games on max settings without performance lag your going to have to get a much better card. You could probably get by with high settings but not max. My 9800 gt played most games well on high but not max. Their are still some games I can't use max settings on with a GTX 260 superclocked. Fabe | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Built OS Windows 7 ultimate 64 bit / XP Home sp3 CPU intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0ghz Motherboard Asus P5ND bios 1401 Memory 8 gigs 1066 OCZ Fata1ty Graphics Card EVGA GTX 580 Call of Duty Black Ops Edition Sound Card Creative Soundblaster Audigy 2zs Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24in LCD's 2MS X2 Screen Resolution 1920x1080p @60Hz Keyboard Logitech Bluetooth Wireless MX5000 Mouse Logitech Bluetooth Wireless MX1000 PSU OCZ 700W GameXtreme Case NZXT Apollo Cooling Corsair H50 CPU/120mm x3 /60mm x2 /Corsair Dominator Ram Hard Drives WD Caviar 500 Black/ WD Caviar 200 Blue Internet Speed Download 19.83 Upload 0.97 Other Info Logitech Z2300 Speakers/ Bose Noise Cancelling Headphones/Avermedia PCI-e Hybrid TV Bravo/Epson NX415 all in one/ 4 Port Powered USB Hub/ LG 10x Bluray Burner /TSST Corp DVDRW External |
27 Apr 2010
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#7 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 Pacific Northwest |
The TouchSmart PC IQ770 has PCI-E 1.0 (HP doesn't say is 2.0/2.1 so I assume its 1.0) and it has a MXM Connector, this will limit what GFX upgrade you can get. Also you have to consider the PSU, if will be powerfull enuff for a better GFX card. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Asus V2-M3M8200 Barebones OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X4 925 Motherboard V2-M3M8200 (basically a M3N78-VM) Memory 4x1024mb Kingston HyperX DDR2-1066 KHX8500D2/1G Graphics Card Asus GTS 450 OC Sound Card Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium PCIe Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24" LCD VH242H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Dell USB mini Multimedia Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU Antec Earthwatts EA-430D Case Asus V2-M3M8200 Cooling 120mm side fan & 80mm front & 92mm rear fan Hard Drives WDC WD5000AAKS
WDC WD5002ABYS
Seagate ST325062 USB-to-IDE
Fujitsu 160GB Pocket USB HDD Internet Speed Comcast Xfinity Other Info Logitech Webcam Pro 9000
Accurian 40-1462 Speakers
little dot MKII Headphone Amp |
27 Apr 2010
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#8 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Fhadso I'm not, I'm just wanting to be able to play modern games on max settings without a performance lag. I currently have a GeForce Go 7600 which sucks majorly, especially when playing not-so-much modern games such as Half-Life 2. those two are low-end cards. so don't dream about max settings. you need at least 260 or HD 5770. and 1GB of memory is much better than 512MB. for example i play GTAIV with everything maxed out and it uses over 700MB of my 1GB card. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1100T BE Motherboard ASUS M5A99X EVO Memory 12GB (Kingston 4GB & 8GB DDR3 1333MHz Kits) Graphics Card MSI GeForce N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II Sound Card ALC892, SB Audigy ES Monitor(s) Displays ViewSonic 24" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech Illuminated Mouse Logitech G400 on SteelSeries 4HD PSU Corsair Professional Series Gold AX850 Case Cooler Master HAF 932 Cooling Zalman CNPS10X Performa, CM 230mm, Titan 140mm PWM Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 3 240GB SATA III, Seagate Barracuda 500GB SATA II, Seagate Barracuda Green 2TB SATA III, Seagate Barracuda LP 2TB SATA II Other Info M-Audio Oxygen 25, Xbox 360 Wired Controller |
28 Apr 2010
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#9 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by Seven Eleven 
Quote: Originally Posted by Fhadso I'm not, I'm just wanting to be able to play modern games on max settings without a performance lag. I currently have a GeForce Go 7600 which sucks majorly, especially when playing not-so-much modern games such as Half-Life 2. those two are low-end cards. so don't dream about max settings. you need at least 260 or HD 5770. and 1GB of memory is much better than 512MB. for example i play GTAIV with everything maxed out and it uses over 700MB of my 1GB card. Memory matters but the memory interface is twice as important, you're much better off with a card that has less memory but a higher memory interface. Though, if you can get both as in the GTX 260 (448-bit, 896MB) then you're going to be doing better.
You should really check what your computer can power and support as mentioned. To use a modern card you'll need a PCIe x16 2.0 slot and if you want to use a GTX 260 you'll need atleast a 550 watt PSU maybe more. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Apple Macbook Pro (April 2009) OS W7 Ult. x64 | OS X CPU Intel Mobile Core 2 Duo 2.93Ghz [T9800 Penryn] Motherboard NVIDIA nForce 730i Rev. B1 [Mac-F2268EC8 (U2E1)] Memory 4096MB Samsung DDR3 Dual Channel [PC3-8500F 1066Mhz] Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT 512MB [G96M Rev. C1] Sound Card SB X-Fi Surround 5.1 USB | Onboard Realtek (Disabled) Monitor(s) Displays Acer x223wbd 22" | Apple Anti-Glare 17" (Disabled) Screen Resolution {Current} 1440x900 {Acer} 1680x1050 {Apple} 1920x1200 Keyboard Logitech G-15v2 [PN 920-000379] Mouse Logitech G-9 [PN 910-000338] PSU Magsafe Case Aluminum/Unibody (MBP52) Cooling 2 x 6000 RPM Fans Hard Drives {Internal}
Seagate Momentus 320GB 2.5" 7200RPM [ST9320421AS]
{Externals}
LaCie 320GB USB 2.0 HDD [301284UR]
LaCie 750GB USB 2.0 FW400 eSATA HDD [301314U]
LaCie 1TB USB 2.0 HDD [301304UR] Internet Speed 12Mbps/2.5Mbps w/ 24Mbps Speed Boost [Comcast] Other Info Logitech X-540 Speakers [PN 970223-0122]
Sennheiser PC-151 Headset |
28 Apr 2010
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#10 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 |

Quote: Originally Posted by notsograymatter Memory matters but the memory interface is twice as important, you're much better off with a card that has less memory but a higher memory interface. Though, if you can get both as in the GTX 260 (448-bit, 896MB) then you're going to be doing better. agreed. for example: 6200 with 64bit 1GB is a joke. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1100T BE Motherboard ASUS M5A99X EVO Memory 12GB (Kingston 4GB & 8GB DDR3 1333MHz Kits) Graphics Card MSI GeForce N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II Sound Card ALC892, SB Audigy ES Monitor(s) Displays ViewSonic 24" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech Illuminated Mouse Logitech G400 on SteelSeries 4HD PSU Corsair Professional Series Gold AX850 Case Cooler Master HAF 932 Cooling Zalman CNPS10X Performa, CM 230mm, Titan 140mm PWM Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 3 240GB SATA III, Seagate Barracuda 500GB SATA II, Seagate Barracuda Green 2TB SATA III, Seagate Barracuda LP 2TB SATA II Other Info M-Audio Oxygen 25, Xbox 360 Wired Controller nVidia GT 220 or 9500 GT? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:40 PM. | |