| Windows 7: Graphic Card Decision |
08 Jun 2010
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#1 | | |
Graphic Card Decision I have spent a fair few pounds on building one of the most up to date systems.
The main specs are:
Intel i7 930
Cosair H50 Watercooler
ASUS Rampage II Gene
6GB Mushkin Redline 998805
My current Graphics card is a Nvidia Geforce 8800GTX
I understand this will be a bottle neck in the system, because it wont be up to speed with the other components.
I have been told that it would be a great system if it had Nvidia GTX 480 or an ATI 5870. The 5870 draws less power, thus generates less heat. On paper the GTX looks great. I understand that Nvidia and Intel work together (AMD + ATI) so would it be suitable if i had the GTX 480?
What are peoples opinions on these cards too?
Thanks
Dan | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Grown OS Windows 7 Pro X64 CPU Intel i7, 930 2.8Ghz - O/c to 4Ghz @ 1.29v Motherboard ASUS Rampage II Gene Memory 3x2GB = 6GB Mushkin Redline 998805 Graphics Card Nvidia Geforce 8800GTX Sound Card Audigy Soundblaster 24 Bit Extreme Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 913N Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024 Keyboard QWERTY Mouse Micky PSU Thermaltake 850W PSU Case A butchered case with holes cut out for extra cooling lol Cooling CPU = Corsair H50 with 2x 120mm Noctua NF-S12B fans on rad Hard Drives 1x Western Digital 500GB, 16MB Crèche, 7,200RPM
1x Western Digital 150GB, 2MB Crèche, 7,200RPM
1x Seagate 250GB, 16MB Crèche, 7,200RPM Internet Speed Not fast enough |
08 Jun 2010
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#2 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 7600 [MSDN] Los Angeles |
From my experience, mix/matching has not ever been a problem and seems to be more of a marketing gimmick. I run a Intel chip (QX9650 Extreme) and Quadfire without any problems. Save yourself a boatload of cash and get a Radeon 4870x2. It's a serious performer and I *cannot* lag it down, even slightly. Furthermore, the newer cards run so hot that unless you're liquid cooling them, get used to *lots* of fan noise. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build/Mod OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 7600 [MSDN] CPU Intel QX9650 Extreme 5.0 GHz Motherboard ASUS Rampage Extreme Rev2 Memory 8GB (4x2) Corsair Dominator DDR3 Graphics Card 2x Sapphire Radeon HD4870X2 (QuadFire) Sound Card SupremeFX X-Fi Monitor(s) Displays Dell 2408WFP 24" Panel Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard Logitech Mouse Logitech PSU Corsair HX1000 Case CoolerMaster - Cosmos S Cooling Custom Liquid - 320mm rad w/ 3x 80mm fans, CPU/NB/SB Blocks Hard Drives 4x WD Caviar Black 640GB (2TB+ Total)
MegaRAID SATA 300-8X Controller
2x RiDATA SataII SSD 64GB (Raid10)
1x LG Blu-ray read/write
1x Phillips LightScribe DVD read/write Internet Speed Fractional T1 - Shared Other Info OC'd to 5.0GHz @ 50c under full load |
08 Jun 2010
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#3 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by Captain Zero From my experience, mix/matching has not ever been a problem and seems to be more of a marketing gimmick. I run a Intel chip (QX9650 Extreme) and Quadfire without any problems. Save yourself a boatload of cash and get a Radeon 4870x2. It's a serious performer and I *cannot* lag it down, even slightly. Furthermore, the newer cards run so hot that unless you're liquid cooling them, get used to *lots* of fan noise. Thanks
*Takes a google @ Radeon 4870x2. Assuming that x2 is part of the model number, not 2 cards? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Grown OS Windows 7 Pro X64 CPU Intel i7, 930 2.8Ghz - O/c to 4Ghz @ 1.29v Motherboard ASUS Rampage II Gene Memory 3x2GB = 6GB Mushkin Redline 998805 Graphics Card Nvidia Geforce 8800GTX Sound Card Audigy Soundblaster 24 Bit Extreme Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 913N Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024 Keyboard QWERTY Mouse Micky PSU Thermaltake 850W PSU Case A butchered case with holes cut out for extra cooling lol Cooling CPU = Corsair H50 with 2x 120mm Noctua NF-S12B fans on rad Hard Drives 1x Western Digital 500GB, 16MB Crèche, 7,200RPM
1x Western Digital 150GB, 2MB Crèche, 7,200RPM
1x Seagate 250GB, 16MB Crèche, 7,200RPM Internet Speed Not fast enough |
08 Jun 2010
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 The Golden State |

Quote: Originally Posted by dannyboy2005 Thanks
*Takes a google @ Radeon 4870x2. Assuming that x2 is part of the model number, not 2 cards? X2 denotes that it has two physical gpus on one board, so yes, the X2 is included as the model number. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Rig 1 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition @ 3.4GHz (AM2+) Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA790X-UD4P (AM2+) Memory Corsair CM2X4096-8500C5 (4 X 2GB) Graphics Card XFX Radeon HD 5770 / Diamond Radeon HD 5770 CrossFireX Sound Card Asus Xonar DS (PCI) Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 932bw+ (3) Screen Resolution 4320x900 Keyboard Logitech Desktop Wave Mouse Logitech LX8 Laser PSU Corsair CMPSU-750TX Case Cooler Master HAF 932 Cooling Corsair Hydro Series H50 Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 2 80 GB - Windows 7 System --
WD Caviar Black 1TB - Music, Movies, Vids, Pics --
WD Caviar Black 640GB - User Profiles & Games --
WD My Book 320GB external Internet Speed 20 down / 2 up Other Info LG GGC-H20L Blu-Ray / HDDVD combo --
Hauppauge HVR-1250 --
Silverstone MFP-51 --
Logitech Webcam C600 |
08 Jun 2010
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#5 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by Captain Zero From my experience, mix/matching has not ever been a problem and seems to be more of a marketing gimmick. I run a Intel chip (QX9650 Extreme) and Quadfire without any problems. Save yourself a boatload of cash and get a Radeon 4870x2. It's a serious performer and I *cannot* lag it down, even slightly. Furthermore, the newer cards run so hot that unless you're liquid cooling them, get used to *lots* of fan noise. As you say, from your experience you haven't had any problems with mixing and matching. I would ideally like a powerful graphics card to play ANY game available. I recently bought Flight Simulator X, which on my current system runs, but not to the max.
Would i get same results if i used 2 lower spec cards (saving money) and used them in SLI/ Crossfire mode to get the same spec as say 1 GTX 480? Or is this deemed bad practice?
Thanks | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Grown OS Windows 7 Pro X64 CPU Intel i7, 930 2.8Ghz - O/c to 4Ghz @ 1.29v Motherboard ASUS Rampage II Gene Memory 3x2GB = 6GB Mushkin Redline 998805 Graphics Card Nvidia Geforce 8800GTX Sound Card Audigy Soundblaster 24 Bit Extreme Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 913N Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024 Keyboard QWERTY Mouse Micky PSU Thermaltake 850W PSU Case A butchered case with holes cut out for extra cooling lol Cooling CPU = Corsair H50 with 2x 120mm Noctua NF-S12B fans on rad Hard Drives 1x Western Digital 500GB, 16MB Crèche, 7,200RPM
1x Western Digital 150GB, 2MB Crèche, 7,200RPM
1x Seagate 250GB, 16MB Crèche, 7,200RPM Internet Speed Not fast enough |
08 Jun 2010
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#6 | | |
Sorry to sort of hi-jack my own thread, but what is the difference between say Sapphire, ASUS, PNY etc? Why do they fluctuate so much in price for what is really the same model number? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Grown OS Windows 7 Pro X64 CPU Intel i7, 930 2.8Ghz - O/c to 4Ghz @ 1.29v Motherboard ASUS Rampage II Gene Memory 3x2GB = 6GB Mushkin Redline 998805 Graphics Card Nvidia Geforce 8800GTX Sound Card Audigy Soundblaster 24 Bit Extreme Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 913N Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024 Keyboard QWERTY Mouse Micky PSU Thermaltake 850W PSU Case A butchered case with holes cut out for extra cooling lol Cooling CPU = Corsair H50 with 2x 120mm Noctua NF-S12B fans on rad Hard Drives 1x Western Digital 500GB, 16MB Crèche, 7,200RPM
1x Western Digital 150GB, 2MB Crèche, 7,200RPM
1x Seagate 250GB, 16MB Crèche, 7,200RPM Internet Speed Not fast enough |
08 Jun 2010
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#7 | | 7 Ultimate x64 California |

Quote: Originally Posted by dannyboy2005 ... I understand that Nvidia and Intel work together (AMD + ATI) so would it be suitable if i had the GTX 480? As has been said, this is pure marketing myth. ATI cards work great with AMD chipset, with Intel chipsets and with nVidia chipsets.
Instead of going SLI or crossfire, have you considered the 5970? It is currently the baddest card on the planet. | My System Specs | | OS 7 Ultimate x64 CPU i5-2500k Motherboard Asus P8P67 Pro Memory 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-12800CL7D-8GBXH 1866MHz 8-9-8-24 Graphics Card EVGA GTX 570 SC Sound Card X-Fi Titanium Fatality Monitor(s) Displays Samsung S27A550H 27" LED Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard MS Natural Elite 4000 Ergonomic Mouse Logitech G500 PSU PC Power & Cooling Silencer 760 Case Lian Li Lancool K62 Cooling Thermalright Venomous X Black/Scythe S-Flex/Shin-Etsu X23 Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 3 120GB.
1TB Samsung F3.
2TB Samsung F4. Internet Speed 6MB/768 Other Info Logitech Z-5500 505 watts.
D-Link DGL-4500.
Tripp-Lite Smart Pro 1500. |
08 Jun 2010
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 The Golden State |

Quote: Originally Posted by dannyboy2005 
Quote: Originally Posted by Captain Zero From my experience, mix/matching has not ever been a problem and seems to be more of a marketing gimmick. I run a Intel chip (QX9650 Extreme) and Quadfire without any problems. Save yourself a boatload of cash and get a Radeon 4870x2. It's a serious performer and I *cannot* lag it down, even slightly. Furthermore, the newer cards run so hot that unless you're liquid cooling them, get used to *lots* of fan noise. As you say, from your experience you haven't had any problems with mixing and matching. I would ideally like a powerful graphics card to play ANY game available. I recently bought Flight Simulator X, which on my current system runs, but not to the max.
Would i get same results if i used 2 lower spec cards (saving money) and used them in SLI/ Crossfire mode to get the same spec as say 1 GTX 480? Or is this deemed bad practice?
Thanks 
Quote: Originally Posted by dannyboy2005 Sorry to sort of hi-jack my own thread, but what is the difference between say Sapphire, ASUS, PNY etc? Why do they fluctuate so much in price for what is really the same model number? Honestly, it is better to have a single card.
The differences between the companies, to name a few: extra features with the cards; warranty and customer support; "vanilla" cards vs factory overclocks. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Rig 1 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition @ 3.4GHz (AM2+) Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA790X-UD4P (AM2+) Memory Corsair CM2X4096-8500C5 (4 X 2GB) Graphics Card XFX Radeon HD 5770 / Diamond Radeon HD 5770 CrossFireX Sound Card Asus Xonar DS (PCI) Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 932bw+ (3) Screen Resolution 4320x900 Keyboard Logitech Desktop Wave Mouse Logitech LX8 Laser PSU Corsair CMPSU-750TX Case Cooler Master HAF 932 Cooling Corsair Hydro Series H50 Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 2 80 GB - Windows 7 System --
WD Caviar Black 1TB - Music, Movies, Vids, Pics --
WD Caviar Black 640GB - User Profiles & Games --
WD My Book 320GB external Internet Speed 20 down / 2 up Other Info LG GGC-H20L Blu-Ray / HDDVD combo --
Hauppauge HVR-1250 --
Silverstone MFP-51 --
Logitech Webcam C600 |
08 Jun 2010
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#9 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by Fumz 
Quote: Originally Posted by dannyboy2005 ... I understand that Nvidia and Intel work together (AMD + ATI) so would it be suitable if i had the GTX 480? As has been said, this is pure marketing myth. ATI cards work great with AMD chipset, with Intel chipsets and with nVidia chipsets.
Instead of going SLI or crossfire, have you considered the 5970? It is currently the baddest card on the planet. Yes, untill i saw the hefty £500 price tag. 
Quote: Originally Posted by mpcrsc562 
Quote: Originally Posted by dannyboy2005 
Quote: Originally Posted by Captain Zero From my experience, mix/matching has not ever been a problem and seems to be more of a marketing gimmick. I run a Intel chip (QX9650 Extreme) and Quadfire without any problems. Save yourself a boatload of cash and get a Radeon 4870x2. It's a serious performer and I *cannot* lag it down, even slightly. Furthermore, the newer cards run so hot that unless you're liquid cooling them, get used to *lots* of fan noise. As you say, from your experience you haven't had any problems with mixing and matching. I would ideally like a powerful graphics card to play ANY game available. I recently bought Flight Simulator X, which on my current system runs, but not to the max.
Would i get same results if i used 2 lower spec cards (saving money) and used them in SLI/ Crossfire mode to get the same spec as say 1 GTX 480? Or is this deemed bad practice?
Thanks 
Quote: Originally Posted by dannyboy2005 Sorry to sort of hi-jack my own thread, but what is the difference between say Sapphire, ASUS, PNY etc? Why do they fluctuate so much in price for what is really the same model number? Honestly, it is better to have a single card.
The differences between the companies, to name a few: extra features with the cards; warranty and customer support; "vanilla" cards vs factory overclocks. So its all the same 'Organs' on the card, but these company's stick their name on it, and adjust drivers/ software? Would i download the drive from ATI website, or would i have to go to say PNY website to download it? In this case, there drivers wont be as recent as Readon's?
Thanks | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Grown OS Windows 7 Pro X64 CPU Intel i7, 930 2.8Ghz - O/c to 4Ghz @ 1.29v Motherboard ASUS Rampage II Gene Memory 3x2GB = 6GB Mushkin Redline 998805 Graphics Card Nvidia Geforce 8800GTX Sound Card Audigy Soundblaster 24 Bit Extreme Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 913N Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024 Keyboard QWERTY Mouse Micky PSU Thermaltake 850W PSU Case A butchered case with holes cut out for extra cooling lol Cooling CPU = Corsair H50 with 2x 120mm Noctua NF-S12B fans on rad Hard Drives 1x Western Digital 500GB, 16MB Crèche, 7,200RPM
1x Western Digital 150GB, 2MB Crèche, 7,200RPM
1x Seagate 250GB, 16MB Crèche, 7,200RPM Internet Speed Not fast enough |
08 Jun 2010
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#10 | | 7 Ultimate x64 California |

Quote: Originally Posted by dannyboy2005 Yes, untill i saw the hefty £500 price tag. Yeah, lol, it's steep alright, but if you think about it, you're not going to get off any cheaper going to an sli/crossfire setup that can match it.
**edit**
You'd be just fine with either the 5870 or the gtx 480. You could play anything you wanted with either card. | My System Specs | | OS 7 Ultimate x64 CPU i5-2500k Motherboard Asus P8P67 Pro Memory 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-12800CL7D-8GBXH 1866MHz 8-9-8-24 Graphics Card EVGA GTX 570 SC Sound Card X-Fi Titanium Fatality Monitor(s) Displays Samsung S27A550H 27" LED Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard MS Natural Elite 4000 Ergonomic Mouse Logitech G500 PSU PC Power & Cooling Silencer 760 Case Lian Li Lancool K62 Cooling Thermalright Venomous X Black/Scythe S-Flex/Shin-Etsu X23 Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 3 120GB.
1TB Samsung F3.
2TB Samsung F4. Internet Speed 6MB/768 Other Info Logitech Z-5500 505 watts.
D-Link DGL-4500.
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