| Windows 7: Core 2 Quad - bottleneck for GTX 480? |
07 Jul 2010
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#1 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 RTM + SP1 Cambridge, UK |
Core 2 Quad - bottleneck for GTX 480? Hey hey peeps,
I really want to upgrade my Graphics card to a shiney new gtx 480.
Now, I heard that the Intel Core 2 Quad is a bottleneck for the said GFX card.
What is bottlenecking, technically mind? (as i never experienced bottlenecking)
Also, how much of a bottleneck would i experience.
Lucky | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number The HAFmeister (Custom) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 RTM + SP1 CPU Intel Core i7 950 3.06GHZ (OC'd to 3.99Ghz) Motherboard Asus Rampage III Extreme x58 SATA 6GB & USB 3.0 Memory 6GB OCZ Reaper HPC Edition PC3-16000 (set 1606Mhz 8-8-8-26) Graphics Card EVGA Nvidia Geforce GTX 570 Sound Card Creative SB X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Professional Series Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SM2433BW 24" Widescreen Monitor Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech G9 Gaming Mouse PSU Thermaltake Toughpower 1200w (Modular) Case CoolerMaster HAF-932 Cooling Zalman Reserator XT and ZM-WB5 Plus - GPU uses Stock coolers Hard Drives Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB 32Mb Buffer SATA II
Western Digital Caviar Black 750GB 32Mb Buffer SATA II
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 16Mb Buffer SATA II
Western Digital My Book Essential Edition 750GB USB
Samsung Spinpoint 2TB SATA II Internet Speed 3MB Profile - 350-400kbs (Real-Speed) Other Info IcyBox Hot-Swap Bay,
Logitech G27 Steering Wheel,
Xbox 360 Wirless Elite Controller with Microsoft Reciever and
Play & Charge Kit,
Belkin USB Wireless Adaptor,
GAME Generic Controller (Playstation Looky-Likey),
Epson SX125 All-in-One. |
07 Jul 2010
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#2 | | Vista 64 Ultimate, Windows 7 64 Ultimate, Ubuntu 9.10 S. ME and W. ME |
A bottleneck is simply like what it sounds like it is. Picture a funnel with the video feed coming from the 480 as the pail of water being poured into you CPU output being the bottom of the funnel, i.e. the GPU (480) is pushing tons of data stream at a time FPS but the CPU can only negotiate the output that it can which is smaller amounts of that stream so the FPS is pinched. How much you feel the pinch is variable if you have a low version if the CPU it won't perform as well as an Extreme version but the i5 and i7 cpu's will outperform them in many ways, the i3 may or may not depending on your current CPU. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DELL XPS Studio 435T OS Vista 64 Ultimate, Windows 7 64 Ultimate, Ubuntu 9.10 CPU i7 975 3.3 GHz Extreme (Factory OC'd to 3.6 GHz) Motherboard DELL provided Memory 18 Gb Tri-Channel 1066 Graphics Card ATI 5970 2048 Mb Sound Card X-Fi Extreme Gamer Monitor(s) Displays Vizio 37" HD-TV Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech Performance K350 Wireless Mouse Logitech Performance MX Wireless PSU DELL Provided 475 watts Case DELL Cooling 3 fans Hard Drives 1.5 Tb HDD
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07 Jul 2010
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#3 | | MS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit |
Bottleneck means that (in your case) your CPU would be too slow and you wouldn't be able to use your gfx card 100%. For example, with c2q and gtx 480 you can have 20 fps in Crysis (extra high settings), but if you have an i7 cpu you can have like 30 fps on same settings. Note: this is just an example, results can be different. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built OS MS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit CPU Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 @ 2.66GHz Motherboard ASUSTeK Computer INC. P5Q DELUXE (LGA 775) Memory 8.0GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 534MHz (5-5-5-18) Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 4870 512 MB Sound Card ATI High Definition Audio Device Monitor(s) Displays LG Flatron W2252 Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Mouse Razer Copperhead PSU Corsair 650W Case Antec Nine Hundred Cooling Zalman CNPS9700 LED Hard Drives 500GB Western Digital,
320GB Seagate Internet Speed 2Mbit/384Kbit |
07 Jul 2010
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#4 | | 7 Ultimate x64 California |

Quote: Originally Posted by Luckystar Also, how much of a bottleneck would i experience.
Lucky CPU Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.83Ghz - Oc'd to 3.40Ghz + 1.27v
You'll be just fine. I would not concern myself with terms; terms that are, in your case, meaningless. | My System Specs | | OS 7 Ultimate x64 CPU i5-2500k Motherboard Asus P8P67 Pro Memory 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-12800CL7D-8GBXH 1866MHz 8-9-8-24 Graphics Card EVGA GTX 570 SC Sound Card X-Fi Titanium Fatality Monitor(s) Displays Samsung S27A550H 27" LED Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard MS Natural Elite 4000 Ergonomic Mouse Logitech G500 PSU PC Power & Cooling Silencer 760 Case Lian Li Lancool K62 Cooling Thermalright Venomous X Black/Scythe S-Flex/Shin-Etsu X23 Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 3 120GB.
1TB Samsung F3.
2TB Samsung F4. Internet Speed 6MB/768 Other Info Logitech Z-5500 505 watts.
D-Link DGL-4500.
Tripp-Lite Smart Pro 1500. |
07 Jul 2010
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#5 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Luckystar Hey hey peeps,
I really want to upgrade my Graphics card to a shiney new gtx 480.
Now, I heard that the Intel Core 2 Quad is a bottleneck for the said GFX card.
What is bottlenecking, technically mind? (as i never experienced bottlenecking)
Also, how much of a bottleneck would i experience.
Lucky No, your Core 2 Quad is not going to severely limit a GTX 480. There are very few games that even take advantage of that many cores.
Here's a prime example to show you how well your CPU performs in games: AMD's Six-Core Phenom II X6 1090T & 1055T Reviewed - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News
They purposely lower graphics settings so the CPU becomes more of a "bottleneck". Once you maximize the graphics settings and run high anti-aliasing and anisotropic filtering the CPU isn't even a concern anymore.
In no way is a Core 2 Quad @ 3.4GHz going to be limiting any of today's games. If you got a Core i7 you would be wasting your money and see no performance difference. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 CPU Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 @ 3.2GHz Motherboard Asus P5Q PRO Turbo Memory 4GB DDR2-800 Graphics Card MSI Radeon HD 5850 Sound Card Creative Labs Audigy2 ZS Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 225BW PSU Corsair HX650 Case Antec Nine Hundred Hard Drives (2) 1TB Samsung F1, (2) 1.5TB Samsung F2, 1TB Samsung F2, 2TB Samsung F3 |
07 Jul 2010
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#6 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 Service Pack 1 Morecambe, Lancashire, England |
You'll be fine with your 9550. I'm running my 9550 at 3.4GHz and every game runs as I'd expect it to. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built OS Windows 7 Professional x64 Service Pack 1 CPU Intel Core i7 920 3.2GHz Motherboard ASUS Sabertooth x58 Memory 6GB XMS3 Corsair 1333MHz Graphics Card Zotac Nvidia Geforce GTX470 Sound Card ASUS Xonar DX/XD 7.1 Monitor(s) Displays Dell 24" S2409W + Dell 20" E207WFP Screen Resolution 1920x1080 + 1680x1050 Keyboard Logitech G11 Keyboard Mouse Logitech G5 Laser Mouse (2007 edition) PSU Corsair HX850 modular Case Coolermaster 690II Advanced Nvidia Edition Cooling Corsair H60 Hard Drives 1x 120GB OCZ Vertex 2E, 1x 750GB Western Digital Caviar Black, 1x 1TB Western Digital Caviar Green Internet Speed 16Mbps Other Info LG Blu-Ray player |
07 Jul 2010
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8 Pro, San Diego |
The larger effect of bottle necking occurs as you go to tri SLI and above. In those cases you would be bottle necking the GPU quite a bit, this shows up in Vantage and other game bench marks. Even in these cases you might not notice any difference in actual game play.
But for a single card with an overclocked quad core you aren't going to see or measure much difference at all between an i7 and an overclocked quad core. With your Q9550 at 3.4Ghz with a GTX480 you will be flying through games. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built OS Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8 Pro, CPU Q9650-4.275GHz, E8600 4.5GHz, E6750-3.8GHz Motherboard Evga 780i FTW Memory G.Skill PC2 9600 1200Mhz 5 5 5 15 2T Graphics Card GTX480 Sound Card Asus Xonar D2 Monitor(s) Displays HannsG Screen Resolution 1680X1050 Keyboard Logitech G15 Mouse Logitech G9 PSU ThermalTake Toughpower 1000Watt modular Case ThermalTake XaserV Cooling Xigmatek S1283 Hard Drives GSkill Phoenix Pro 120GB SSD Internet Speed T1 |
08 Jul 2010
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#8 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit |
Agreed with above poster. You will see little to no bottlenecking. As I run tri sli I went with 6 core proccessor. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Barebones OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz Motherboard MSI NF980-G65 AM3 NVIDIA nForce 980a SLI Memory G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (4 x 2GB) DDR3 (PC3 12800) Graphics Card SLI GeForce GTX 480 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 Sound Card onboard Monitor(s) Displays Toshiba TV 42'' or 27.5'' widescreen monitor Screen Resolution 1920x1080 60hz Keyboard Logitech G15 Mouse Logitech MX 518 PSU Antec TPQ-1200 1200W Continuous Power with PowerCache Case COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN1-GP Black Steel ATX Full To Cooling 1 x 140mm rear fan, 3x 230mm Fans (front, top, side) Hard Drives 2x SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/ Internet Speed 13 mb/s down 5.5 mb/s up Other Info Main system.. other system is slightly different |
08 Jul 2010
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#9 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 RTM + SP1 Cambridge, UK |
So from what you have all said, i will be fine.
Bear in mind though, i play things like Crysis, GTA IV + EFLC and Grid (They seem to be the heaviest games i play).
And from what Chev65 said, i should be fine with two way sli?
Lucky | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number The HAFmeister (Custom) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 RTM + SP1 CPU Intel Core i7 950 3.06GHZ (OC'd to 3.99Ghz) Motherboard Asus Rampage III Extreme x58 SATA 6GB & USB 3.0 Memory 6GB OCZ Reaper HPC Edition PC3-16000 (set 1606Mhz 8-8-8-26) Graphics Card EVGA Nvidia Geforce GTX 570 Sound Card Creative SB X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Professional Series Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SM2433BW 24" Widescreen Monitor Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech G9 Gaming Mouse PSU Thermaltake Toughpower 1200w (Modular) Case CoolerMaster HAF-932 Cooling Zalman Reserator XT and ZM-WB5 Plus - GPU uses Stock coolers Hard Drives Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB 32Mb Buffer SATA II
Western Digital Caviar Black 750GB 32Mb Buffer SATA II
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 16Mb Buffer SATA II
Western Digital My Book Essential Edition 750GB USB
Samsung Spinpoint 2TB SATA II Internet Speed 3MB Profile - 350-400kbs (Real-Speed) Other Info IcyBox Hot-Swap Bay,
Logitech G27 Steering Wheel,
Xbox 360 Wirless Elite Controller with Microsoft Reciever and
Play & Charge Kit,
Belkin USB Wireless Adaptor,
GAME Generic Controller (Playstation Looky-Likey),
Epson SX125 All-in-One. |
08 Jul 2010
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#10 | | Vista Business x64 Wisconsin |
To be honest, i would think your q9550 would limit the performance of gtx 480. At the most the q9550 is barely enough to run games like crysis on very high setting with consistant 40+fps, esspecially if you game at high resolutions. I could be wrong but my 6000+ dual core at 3.2 with my 8800gts only get around 30fps on high settings at 1680x1050 and drops below that during high action.
Just my opinion, but i do not own a q9550 or a gtx480. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Build OS Vista Business x64 CPU AMD Phenom II x3 720be @3.15ghz Motherboard Asus M4A77D Memory 2x2GB A-Data DDR2 pc6400 Graphics Card Nvidia EVGA 8800gts (640MB,320bit) Sound Card Creative Sound Blaster Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 226bw Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard G15 Mouse Razor DeathAdder PSU Rosewill 500watt Case Dynex Cooling Thermaltake V1 Hard Drives Seagate 320gig, WD 80gig Internet Speed 10.0Mb/896Kb Core 2 Quad - bottleneck for GTX 480? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:23 AM. | |