External USB HDDs being treated as internal drive (cannot eject)

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  1. Posts : 3
    Windows 7 Pro 64bit
       #1

    External USB HDDs being treated as internal drive (cannot eject)


    So I'm having this funny problem as of late with all my external USB HDDs. Basically, the "Safely Eject Hardware" icon no longer appears when the drives are connected, thus I am unable to safely remove it. It used to work, but somewhere along the line, it stopped showing up. I don't recall what, if any, changes were made. The HDDs are SATA drives in external enclosures (two different types).

    The drives appear in the "Hard Disk Drives" section of My Computer, and not under "Devices with Removable Storage".

    I've tried uninstalling the associated devices from the Device Manager (USB Mass Storage Device, and the listing under Disk Drives). Other USB Media work fine (Flash drives), just not the HDDs.

    The drive works fine otherwise, I'm just worried about corrupting data during the disconnect. Basically, it's as if Windows thinks they are internal drives.
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  2. Lee
    Posts : 1,796
    Win 7 Pro x64, VM Win XP, Win7 Pro Sandbox, Kubuntu 11
       #2

    Can't remember ever using the "Safely Remove" feature. All I have done since USB devices have come out is just pull the USB cord out.

    However, if you need to see if there is a problem; check to see if for some reason that the safely remove feature is hidden. Bring up the "Property Menu" for the task bar then go to the "Notification Area," then check to see if my chance it is hidden.

    If that's not the problem check back, and we'll look at other possibilities.

    And, BTW "Welcome to the Seven Forums."
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  3. Posts : 966
    Windows 7 Enterprise
       #3

    I too noticed this when using USB or eSata harddrives.
    When using USB thumbdrives, or flash drives, it'l appear as a removable disk and the notification icon you described will then appear.
    I believe this is actually a Win7 feature, not a bug.

    All the 'saftely remove drive' icon does, is terminates any read/writes to the disk, which makes it "safe" for removal.
    By safe, I refer to the data transfer being completed so it becomes usable as a file, and not a half-written or corrupted file.
    Most USB drive enclosures, or flash drives, have an LED or light that indicates read/writes.

    So Lee, you're not wrong in not using the 'remove device' feature, because I'm sure you wait at least 2-3 seconds after transfer before removing the device. I do the same.


    Hope this helps.
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  4. Posts : 6,349
    Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bit
       #4

    Try reading thru this to see if you find something.
    I'll give it a read also since I haven't yet.
    Meet you back here if you need in 5.

    Safely Remove Hardware - Eject Device
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  5. Posts : 6,349
    Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bit
       #5

    This one may even be more helpful.
    Install/make your own eject button.

    Safely Remove Hardware Shortcut - Create
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  6. Posts : 3
    Windows 7 Pro 64bit
    Thread Starter
       #6

    Thanks for the suggestions Hopalong, unfortunately neither worked.

    I'm glad to hear others are experiencing this "feature". Like xarden, I've been waiting for the activity light to stop blinking before I unplug the drives. I just found it odd considering the drives used to show up in the Safely Remove dialog (or, at least, I think they did, maybe I'm going crazy).

    You know, I'll try the same drive out on another Win 7 PC and see if it's any different. Probably nothing is wrong, and I'm just paranoid from the XP-and-before days, when unplugging a USB device was suicide.
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  7. Posts : 6,349
    Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bit
       #7

    I found the tutorials and figured they were worth a shot.

    Someone may come up with a solution so check back.
    I don't have any other suggestions.
    While we are sleeping tonight others are waking up around the world.

    Good Luck
    Mike
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  8. Posts : 10,200
    MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
       #8

    Most common causes are bios out-of-date, motherboard chip drivers out-of-date, bios not set to ahci, trying to use an internal unit as external or vice-versa, drive firmware needs an update.

    Now here's an article which you may find interesting:
    eSata & insternal Sata Port Configuration
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  9. Posts : 3
    Windows 7 Pro 64bit
    Thread Starter
       #9

    Problem solved - BIOS update


    Well i tried the USB HDD on another Win7 PC and the "Safely Remove..." icon appeared, so i knew it was something with my specific set-up.

    Turns out it was a BIOS update. As of 3 weeks ago, I was up-to-date, but what do ya know, a newly released update fixes the problem (though it was undocumented). That also explains why the problem suddenly appeared (probably alongside the last bios update).

    Thanks for the feedback from everyone.
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  10. Posts : 10,200
    MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
       #10

    Great to hear that problem is fixed and many thanks for getting back to us with the resolution.
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