best hd montor 22 inch out there

I've had a look at both the LG and ASUS LED backlight monitors, and they both have a very high quality screen picture. An ASUS LED backlight is actually my next purchase.

Hope you have a mini display port handy if you want to use the apple monitor

mini display port the apple monitors do look nice tho... ive seen one of the massive 28" or whatever ones... stunning

Zepher said:

zzz2496 said:

In computer space, currently there are no monitor with local dimming capability. If I were to choose, I'd take any monitor that uses IPS panel over LED backlight... IPS = the Rolls Royce of LCD panels. You'd be better off using better panel over those el cheapo panels + gimmicky edge LED backlight...

But each to their own...
Look for DELL U2410, or DELL 2408WFP, I personally use DELL 2407WFP, it's the best display of it's class - close to "The Best" (as in price/performance ratio).

zzz2496

One of the best screens on the market is the Apple Cinema, and it is LED and IPS.
Apple - LED Cinema Display

Apple Cinema Display use LED backlight BUT not with local dimming, just regular LED backlight...

For a reference, I have never seen a "good" monitor that's priced lower than US$400. If the Sinbin's budget is only £150, I don't think he's going to get a really good monitor in terms of performance (there always be high quality goods beyond that high price). You might get an IPS panel for around some 300-ish for a Viewsonic IIRC, but that was with a discount...

Sinbin, if you don't mind "older" monitor, buy DELL 2408WFP - It's using S-PVA panel (performance is comparable with IPS, but slightly cheaper), has tons of inputs, and it's an old but very good monitor - I guess you should be able to get it with a fat discount slapped on it...

zzz2496

LG E2240S 22" LED Monitor 16:9 HD 5ms Black: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

here link of what i gonna get!!is this any good ,its vital i get the right screen !it will save me screaming and jumping around if it turns up and i dislike it

Sinbin,

LCD displays consist of 2 primary elements, the first one is the LCD panel. This is more or less like a transparency paper, a sheet of clear glass that will show you pictures when it's receiving input. The other part is the backlight system. Imagine this, you have an image printed on a transparency paper, and you want to show it to your friends, you'll need to "light up" the paper, that's where the backlight comes in. Now the LED we've been talking about is the backlight system only, the one that lights up the clear sheet of glass that we have our images on. As for what you've chosen - If it's good enough for you, go buy it. For me personally, I'd go with an IPS based panel (this is the "a sheet of clear glass" part).

I guess I misled you, huh? I'll clear this up. There are several type of "a sheet of clear glass"-part. The ones that are famous are TN, PVA, and IPS. If you see a LCD monitor with 2ms response time, that's a TN you're seeing. If you see a 5-6ms response time, you're [most likely] looking at S-PVA/IPS based panels. The cheaper one (and the ugly one) is TN. It's cheap to produce, it's fast, it's ugly, and will moderately (at times severely) shift colors when you view it at different angles. S-PVA/IPS will not shift color as severe (sometimes you won't even detect the color shifting, even at wide angles) as TN, shows color consistently everywhere on the panel and very wide viewing angles. Too bad it doesn't respond as fast as TN, and is way more expensive to produce than a TN.

Most modern TN panel will have 168-170 degrees viewing angle (VERY optimist claims, sometimes you'll only see a smudged gray image when you reached 170 degrees, but sometimes still able to see what the image means, only at different color). Most S-PVA/IPS will have 178 degrees viewing angle and you'll still be able to make then colors even when you reach extreme angles. Btw, to see a display panel type: the cheap trick is to see it -70 degrees on vertical axis (read: you need to squat and look at the display positioned above your head). If the color changes to a shade of gray - you are looking at a TN, if the color shifted a bit, you are looking at a S-PVA/IPS. As I said, I'd go with S-PVA/IPS.

About the display you've linked... It's 99% TN panel...

zzz2496

Anyhow, that said, for that price, the LG LED backlit monitor will be fairly nice.

zzz2496 said:

Sinbin,

LCD displays consist of 2 primary elements, the first one is the LCD panel. This is more or less like a transparency paper, a sheet of clear glass that will show you pictures when it's receiving input. The other part is the backlight system. Imagine this, you have an image printed on a transparency paper, and you want to show it to your friends, you'll need to "light up" the paper, that's where the backlight comes in. Now the LED we've been talking about is the backlight system only, the one that lights up the clear sheet of glass that we have our images on. As for what you've chosen - If it's good enough for you, go buy it. For me personally, I'd go with an IPS based panel (this is the "a sheet of clear glass" part).

I guess I misled you, huh? I'll clear this up. There are several type of "a sheet of clear glass"-part. The ones that are famous are TN, PVA, and IPS. If you see a LCD monitor with 2ms response time, that's a TN you're seeing. If you see a 5-6ms response time, you're [most likely] looking at S-PVA/IPS based panels. The cheaper one (and the ugly one) is TN. It's cheap to produce, it's fast, it's ugly, and will moderately (at times severely) shift colors when you view it at different angles. S-PVA/IPS will not shift color as severe (sometimes you won't even detect the color shifting, even at wide angles) as TN, shows color consistently everywhere on the panel and very wide viewing angles. Too bad it doesn't respond as fast as TN, and is way more expensive to produce than a TN.

Most modern TN panel will have 168-170 degrees viewing angle (VERY optimist claims, sometimes you'll only see a smudged gray image when you reached 170 degrees, but sometimes still able to see what the image means, only at different color). Most S-PVA/IPS will have 178 degrees viewing angle and you'll still be able to make then colors even when you reach extreme angles. Btw, to see a display panel type: the cheap trick is to see it -70 degrees on vertical axis (read: you need to squat and look at the display positioned above your head). If the color changes to a shade of gray - you are looking at a TN, if the color shifted a bit, you are looking at a S-PVA/IPS. As I said, I'd go with S-PVA/IPS.

About the display you've linked... It's 99% TN panel...

zzz2496

I get ya!!so what monitors use the ips !as icanr seem to find it in product description,and if it only happens when you move around,,does it matter ,unless u plan to use the pc hanging off the ceiling???
As i just sit directlly infront of my screen vertical with it when i use it

sinbin said:

zzz2496 said:

Sinbin,

LCD displays consist of 2 primary elements, the first one is the LCD panel. This is more or less like a transparency paper, a sheet of clear glass that will show you pictures when it's receiving input. The other part is the backlight system. Imagine this, you have an image printed on a transparency paper, and you want to show it to your friends, you'll need to "light up" the paper, that's where the backlight comes in. Now the LED we've been talking about is the backlight system only, the one that lights up the clear sheet of glass that we have our images on. As for what you've chosen - If it's good enough for you, go buy it. For me personally, I'd go with an IPS based panel (this is the "a sheet of clear glass" part).

I guess I misled you, huh? I'll clear this up. There are several type of "a sheet of clear glass"-part. The ones that are famous are TN, PVA, and IPS. If you see a LCD monitor with 2ms response time, that's a TN you're seeing. If you see a 5-6ms response time, you're [most likely] looking at S-PVA/IPS based panels. The cheaper one (and the ugly one) is TN. It's cheap to produce, it's fast, it's ugly, and will moderately (at times severely) shift colors when you view it at different angles. S-PVA/IPS will not shift color as severe (sometimes you won't even detect the color shifting, even at wide angles) as TN, shows color consistently everywhere on the panel and very wide viewing angles. Too bad it doesn't respond as fast as TN, and is way more expensive to produce than a TN.

Most modern TN panel will have 168-170 degrees viewing angle (VERY optimist claims, sometimes you'll only see a smudged gray image when you reached 170 degrees, but sometimes still able to see what the image means, only at different color). Most S-PVA/IPS will have 178 degrees viewing angle and you'll still be able to make then colors even when you reach extreme angles. Btw, to see a display panel type: the cheap trick is to see it -70 degrees on vertical axis (read: you need to squat and look at the display positioned above your head). If the color changes to a shade of gray - you are looking at a TN, if the color shifted a bit, you are looking at a S-PVA/IPS. As I said, I'd go with S-PVA/IPS.

About the display you've linked... It's 99% TN panel...

zzz2496

I get ya!!so what monitors use the ips !as icanr seem to find it in product description,and if it only happens when you move around,,does it matter ,unless u plan to use the pc hanging off the ceiling???
As i just sit directlly infront of my screen vertical with it when i use it

To some, maybe color shifting isn't really matter... To others, it means a lot. From all my friends and colleagues opinion, when I show then S-PVA/IPS vs TN side by side, they always choose S-PVA/IPS. All I'm saying is that S-PVA/IPS is much better than TN (read: TN = 80% screens on the market). You can use Monitor Panel Search Database to search what panel does your monitor uses. And hey, I'm just informing you the cheap way to know a panel type... not to use it as such.

zzz2496

zzz2496 said:

sinbin said:

zzz2496 said:

Sinbin,

LCD displays consist of 2 primary elements, the first one is the LCD panel. This is more or less like a transparency paper, a sheet of clear glass that will show you pictures when it's receiving input. The other part is the backlight system. Imagine this, you have an image printed on a transparency paper, and you want to show it to your friends, you'll need to "light up" the paper, that's where the backlight comes in. Now the LED we've been talking about is the backlight system only, the one that lights up the clear sheet of glass that we have our images on. As for what you've chosen - If it's good enough for you, go buy it. For me personally, I'd go with an IPS based panel (this is the "a sheet of clear glass" part).

I guess I misled you, huh? I'll clear this up. There are several type of "a sheet of clear glass"-part. The ones that are famous are TN, PVA, and IPS. If you see a LCD monitor with 2ms response time, that's a TN you're seeing. If you see a 5-6ms response time, you're [most likely] looking at S-PVA/IPS based panels. The cheaper one (and the ugly one) is TN. It's cheap to produce, it's fast, it's ugly, and will moderately (at times severely) shift colors when you view it at different angles. S-PVA/IPS will not shift color as severe (sometimes you won't even detect the color shifting, even at wide angles) as TN, shows color consistently everywhere on the panel and very wide viewing angles. Too bad it doesn't respond as fast as TN, and is way more expensive to produce than a TN.

Most modern TN panel will have 168-170 degrees viewing angle (VERY optimist claims, sometimes you'll only see a smudged gray image when you reached 170 degrees, but sometimes still able to see what the image means, only at different color). Most S-PVA/IPS will have 178 degrees viewing angle and you'll still be able to make then colors even when you reach extreme angles. Btw, to see a display panel type: the cheap trick is to see it -70 degrees on vertical axis (read: you need to squat and look at the display positioned above your head). If the color changes to a shade of gray - you are looking at a TN, if the color shifted a bit, you are looking at a S-PVA/IPS. As I said, I'd go with S-PVA/IPS.

About the display you've linked... It's 99% TN panel...

zzz2496

I get ya!!so what monitors use the ips !as icanr seem to find it in product description,and if it only happens when you move around,,does it matter ,unless u plan to use the pc hanging off the ceiling???
As i just sit directlly infront of my screen vertical with it when i use it

To some, maybe color shifting isn't really matter... To others, it means a lot. From all my friends and colleagues opinion, when I show then S-PVA/IPS vs TN side by side, they always choose S-PVA/IPS. All I'm saying is that S-PVA/IPS is much better than TN (read: TN = 80% screens on the market). You can use Monitor Panel Search Database to search what panel does your monitor uses. And hey, I'm just informing you the cheap way to know a panel type... not to use it as such.

zzz2496

ok thanks for the advice,but if that reason is the only dofference ,i think ips is not really worth the fuss or extra money !but thanks foryou help

It is hard to justify the price difference with a TN versus an IPS flat panel...but after using an IPS panel...you want to keep using it. Better colors, better viewing angles, more accurate.