HDD errors

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No mate I only had the printer, wireless adaptor for the M/KB, audio jack, router cable.
Yeh seems like the answers I have been getting form various (many) places anyway it doesn't seem to be causing any probs but it wuld be nice to know wouldn't it? Oh the ext was aWD so I might just try their site - tomorrow again as it's off tp the workhouse again in a minute lol!

But thanks so much for trying but believe me I am a small fellow (and a Limey he he) and being small just like a terrier dog just can't let go of that rat until it's wrenched from my jaws lol!! Will let you know how I go.

Ok David

When all else fails ...... eh? so if I don't come up with direct manufacturers site answers as per seekrs reply I'll tyr that.

ey mate now you really are confusing an old fella here what the heck is Shabbat!!:sarc:

In addition to UBCD, another good tool for hard drive diagnostics is HDDGURU: MHDD

ICit2lol said:

When all else fails ...... eh? so if I don't come up with direct manufacturers site answers as per seekrs reply I'll tyr that.

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That's all I was suggesting, as a last resort. I have an old 10GB Maxtor drive that I've repaired bad sectors on twice now. It's still going strong as a storage HDD.

ICit2lol said:

ey mate now you really are confusing an old fella here what the heck is Shabbat!!:sarc:

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Shabbat = Sabbath
Shalom = Peace
Today is the Sabbath, and Shabbat Shalom is a phrase that is equivalent to:
May the peace of the Lord's Sabbath rest upon you.

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seeker I have just tried the WD 1Tb drive - again last night on the laptop it was still running a backup after nearly 10 hours so am ditching it - it was at 56% - absolutely ridiculous, as the backup on the desktop using a Seagate 500Gb had finished a fair while before I even got up this am.
I still reckon it (WD 1Tb) was a major cause of the disk errors I was getting - even though I can't ID the Disk1 device I suppose it could have been anything - but the probs from memory started when I first got that drive. So am hooking up a HP Simple Save 350Gb for backup now.
In hindsight I was probably being a bit of a smart arse buying the tera drive thinking that bigger was better. Plus the device bought from a large "variety" store - Big W I suppose a bit like your Walmart? had packing tape around the bottom edge of the box and I didn't twig (realise / suspect) at the time anything was wrong but I do know that they do get returned goods and just put them straight back out on the shelves - so lesson learned eh? In any case I don't do a lot of photo stuff and the like just music and books and my internal 500Gb is probably more than I am ever going to need for storage of that.

But I will get into the site you have suggested as well as Davids' if I get any further HDD prbs start up.

OH and David I meant to mention please don't take my reply to your suggestion that it would enter (my rather impetuous at times) head as that you would put me onto a untrusty site - I only said what I did because I am now in all probability a little overly paranoid re net stuff. I shouldn't be really as my ISS is super efficient at lettting me know of "strange stuff" coming through.

Query

Have been doing some reading re hard drive controllers in hubs and the machine and find that they involve circuitry - didn't know - sorry you fellows. I assumed they were just like extension power outlet boards - look you are communicating with the KOTBC!!

My Harddisk# errors - not my internal C" drive which is numbered 0 (zero) is it possible for the hubs and / or the machines' usb sockets have defective circuitry in them that could possibly be the cause of my problems?

Seagate drive

Hello seeker sorry for the late reply - well I think (and hope) that I have the answer for my disk errors. I defaulted my laptop and started from scratch left the machine for a few days bought a new WD external and have done 3 backups and to date no errors.
So far so good but when I connected one of my older WD externals to the desktop I instantly got disk controller errors so removed it but only by shutting down the machine before I could do that as it would not eject in safe mode. Since then I have just had the Seagate hooked up as my backup drive and no more errors.

I have to be honest and say that I have found out in the last couple of months that any usb devices need to be "safely" removed whereas I was just unplugging them and plus I have been using downloaded free software by recommendation and thereby not being cautious enough.

Now both the drives in each machine are showing up as Drive1! and are healthy so must come to the conclusion that I did as above. So all in all I have been a bit of an impetuous smart arse, but am learning quickly with help from folks like yourself. Many thanks for your input I hope you don't think I am completely stupid.

My only defence is that for years I have just been doing docs, spreadsheets, Ebaying, YT'ing etc without giving it much thought until I decided to get a little deeper into computing.

ICit2lol said:

So all in all I have been a bit of an impetuous smart arse, but am learning quickly with help from folks like yourself. Many thanks for your input I hope you don't think I am completely stupid.

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Nobody thinks you are stupid. At least they shouldn't. Everyone here has had to learn, just like your doing now. That doesn't make you stupid. In fact, it's quite the opposite. Stupid folks don't seek for answers, or try to aquire knowledge. So that makes you pretty smart in my book.

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Hey David that was very kind of you to say that as I have had some really quite "unfortunate" replies from some really savvy people - not many & not in this forum I might add- who seem to be really irrated by comments or queries I make or ask.
That makes one feel really insignificant and wary of asking anything.

If I could I would say thanks in Hebrew but will have to leave it at - Shalom be with you!
John

ICit2lol said:

Hey David that was very kind of you to say that as I have had some really quite "unfortunate" replies from some really savvy people - not many & not in this forum I might add- who seem to be really irrated by comments or queries I make or ask.
That makes one feel really insignificant and wary of asking anything.

If I could I would say thanks in Hebrew but will have to leave it at - Shalom be with you!
John

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No problem. It needed to be said. I think you'll run into arrogant posters on any technology related message board. It's really quite rediculous when someone who has been through the exact same thing as you [ignorant, but seeking answers] is suddenly a genius, who is above all, and feels the need to belittle those who are currently less knowledgable. That really pushes my buttons!

Oh, and I'm not Jewish. Messianics don't have to be. In fact, the vast majority of Messianics are Gentiles. Maybe 10% are Jewish, and that's a generous estimate.

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Yes I know exactly where you are coming from David re getting one or two things right as you sat makes the individual an instant expert. I have in the past gone with suggestions for reg cleaners, HDD stuff that have caused me a world of grief including I suspect the HDD controller problems. There is one in particular a codecs CD - a 7 one locally on Ebay that this knowbrainer / sly rat who took the Shark program and "reinvented" it which I could not get rid of using all of the usual uninstallers - Windows / Revo / CCleaner / etc etc. However the factory default on the laptop finally got rid of it and that has made me particularly wary of anything and especially from Ebay.
But I have now found the cause of the HDD controller errors in eventvwr it turned out to be the externals I was using which had become corrupted somehow and I have to admit that it was prbably down to my own doing - I didn't find out until just recently re "safely" removing any usb connected devices and used to just pull them out. So have got a couple now - a Seagate and a WD that have not been subjected to "the treatment" lol!! So my probs in that area now fixed unless I do something stupid again!
Look I am really sorry for presuming that you were Jewish and I have looked up messianic and yeh I should have been a little more careful in what I presumed and said. I was presuming because of your name and the emblem on your page.
I myself have to confess am an atheist and have been since I was very young as I am a creature of logic and science - you don't see it - it don't exist - unless it is proovable by scientific method. Plus I work in a health profession that has brought me into contact with individuals that no amount of religious reasoning can convince me that any devine being would allow such suffering as I have seen over 40 years in the job. For example no one could ever tell me that it is a devine being's will to let children of a very young age suffer luekaemia and other disorders / diseases that are truly awful.
But when it comes to situations close to ones own beliefs and I do believe in the "kinder" and humanistic principles of Christianity, Bhuddism, Islam, or any faith and live by them. In addition I do ot or would not deny anyone the right to believe in what they want to - I just dislike intensely anyone who tries to push their beliefs onto me or anyone - that for whatever cause that do not have the reasoning power or need some form of reassurance to cope with the vagaries of life.
Cripes I have digressed eh? Must get off my soapbox lol!!
Regards
John