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12-13-2010
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#1 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit |
Hard drives This is a hypothetical question.
How do you make two independent hard drives of the same make, model and volume act as one hard drive?
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit CPU AMD Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition Motherboard Asus M4N78 Pro Memory GSkill 4 X 2 GB PC 8500 Graphics Card PowerColor Radeon HD 4870 512mb GDDR5 Sound Card On board VIA High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dual monitors: HP W1907 LCD 19" and Gateway HD Display 19" L Screen Resolution 1440x900 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Razor DeathAdder PSU Ultra X4 750 watt fully modular Case Ultra E-Torque mid tower ATX Cooling Core-Contact 92 mm CPU Cooler Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda 1TB (primary)
Seagate Barracuda 2 X 320 GB Internet Speed 50/5 Mbps UL/DL Other Info Optical: Super Muliti DVD burner w/lightscribe, Hauppauge WinTV HVR-1800 |
12-13-2010
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit & 64-bit both SP1 |
By having them in an array (RAID/JBOD). | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built, N/A OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit & 64-bit both SP1 CPU AMD Athlon (tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 7550 @2.5GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA770-ES3 Memory 2 x 2GB PC2-6400 (DDR2-800), Ganged Mode, (4GB total) Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTX 550 Ti 1GB Sound Card Realtek High Definition on board solution (ALC 892) Monitor(s) Displays ViewSonic VA1912w Widescreen (VGA) Screen Resolution 1440x900 Keyboard Microsoft Digital Media Pro Keyboard (USB) Mouse Microsoft Comfort Optical Mouse 3000 (USB) PSU XFX Pro Series 850W Semi-Modular Case Antec NSK 4000B II Cooling 1 x 80mm Front Inlet (with filter) 1 x 120mm Rear Exhaust Hard Drives OCZ Petrol SSD 64GB SATA III
OCZ Petrol SSD 128GB SATA III
Samsung HD501LJ 500GB SATA II x2
Hitachi HDS721010CLA332 1TB SATA II
1 x Iomega 1.5TB Ext USB 2.0 Internet Speed NetGear DG834Gv3 ADSL Modem/Router (Ethernet) ~4.0 Mb/s (O2) Other Info PCI-Express SATA III controller (Marvell 88SE9128 chipset)
Optical Drive: HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH10LS30 SATA Bluray
Lexmark S305 Printer/Scanner/Copier (USB)
CTF-430 Tablet & Pen
WEI Score: |
12-13-2010
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit |
Thanks. Next question; do we have a tutorial on this? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit CPU AMD Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition Motherboard Asus M4N78 Pro Memory GSkill 4 X 2 GB PC 8500 Graphics Card PowerColor Radeon HD 4870 512mb GDDR5 Sound Card On board VIA High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dual monitors: HP W1907 LCD 19" and Gateway HD Display 19" L Screen Resolution 1440x900 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Razor DeathAdder PSU Ultra X4 750 watt fully modular Case Ultra E-Torque mid tower ATX Cooling Core-Contact 92 mm CPU Cooler Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda 1TB (primary)
Seagate Barracuda 2 X 320 GB Internet Speed 50/5 Mbps UL/DL Other Info Optical: Super Muliti DVD burner w/lightscribe, Hauppauge WinTV HVR-1800 |
12-13-2010
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#4 | | Vista and Windows7, sometimes Ubuntu and Fedora |
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway - 2 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista and Windows7, sometimes Ubuntu and Fedora CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to 2.5GHz Quad Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse terrible devices, who wants them Hard Drives 5x HDD, 2x SSD, 6x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
12-14-2010
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit |
Thanks for that link. What it is the difference between spanned and Raid 0. I've done some googleing but can't find anything definitive. Are they one and the same? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit CPU AMD Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition Motherboard Asus M4N78 Pro Memory GSkill 4 X 2 GB PC 8500 Graphics Card PowerColor Radeon HD 4870 512mb GDDR5 Sound Card On board VIA High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dual monitors: HP W1907 LCD 19" and Gateway HD Display 19" L Screen Resolution 1440x900 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Razor DeathAdder PSU Ultra X4 750 watt fully modular Case Ultra E-Torque mid tower ATX Cooling Core-Contact 92 mm CPU Cooler Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda 1TB (primary)
Seagate Barracuda 2 X 320 GB Internet Speed 50/5 Mbps UL/DL Other Info Optical: Super Muliti DVD burner w/lightscribe, Hauppauge WinTV HVR-1800 |
12-14-2010
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#6 | | Vista and Windows7, sometimes Ubuntu and Fedora |
Here is one definition I found: Quote: A spanned volume is made up of disk space on more than one physical disk. It is used to combine free space on different hard disk drives installed in a computer in order to create a large logical volume. It can be created on dynamic disks only. It supports two to thirty-two disk drives. A spanned volume is not fault tolerant and cannot be mirrored or striped. That implies that it is not the same as Raid0 (striped) or Raid 5 (mirrored) | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway - 2 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista and Windows7, sometimes Ubuntu and Fedora CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to 2.5GHz Quad Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse terrible devices, who wants them Hard Drives 5x HDD, 2x SSD, 6x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
12-14-2010
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit & 64-bit both SP1 |
Let's imagine that you have a 2 drawer filing cabinet and are writing a series of letters which will be filed in various ways in this cabinet. The drawers represent the drives, and the letters the data files.
Initially, the drawers are completely separate and are independant of one another. Letters may be stored in either one without complications.
Now, let's link the drawers together to form one big drawer. There are 3 main ways that this can be done: RAID0, RAID1, and JBOD.
Let's look at these in order.
Firstly, RAID0. This combines the capacity of the drawers giving an overall capacity of twice that of the smallest drawer. Letters are stored here by being split - odd pages going in the first drawer and even pages in the second. Loss of one of the drawers here results in the effective loss of all of the letters.
Secondly, RAID1. With this analogy, a complete copy of the letter is stored in both drawers, the total effective capacity of which is that of the smallest drawer. Loss of one of the drawers has no detrimental effect on the letters, as both contained a complete copy.
Thirdly, JBOD. Here the drawers can be of different sizes, and the capacity is the sum of that of the individual drawers. Letters are stored in a sequential format, beginning with the first drawer. When that drawer is full, letters are then stored in the second drawer. There are several outcomes here following the loss of a drawer. Obviously, letters stored in that drawer will be lost, but the fate of the others can vary. Depending on circumstances, you may or may not be able to retrieve letters from the remaining drawer. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built, N/A OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit & 64-bit both SP1 CPU AMD Athlon (tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 7550 @2.5GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA770-ES3 Memory 2 x 2GB PC2-6400 (DDR2-800), Ganged Mode, (4GB total) Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTX 550 Ti 1GB Sound Card Realtek High Definition on board solution (ALC 892) Monitor(s) Displays ViewSonic VA1912w Widescreen (VGA) Screen Resolution 1440x900 Keyboard Microsoft Digital Media Pro Keyboard (USB) Mouse Microsoft Comfort Optical Mouse 3000 (USB) PSU XFX Pro Series 850W Semi-Modular Case Antec NSK 4000B II Cooling 1 x 80mm Front Inlet (with filter) 1 x 120mm Rear Exhaust Hard Drives OCZ Petrol SSD 64GB SATA III
OCZ Petrol SSD 128GB SATA III
Samsung HD501LJ 500GB SATA II x2
Hitachi HDS721010CLA332 1TB SATA II
1 x Iomega 1.5TB Ext USB 2.0 Internet Speed NetGear DG834Gv3 ADSL Modem/Router (Ethernet) ~4.0 Mb/s (O2) Other Info PCI-Express SATA III controller (Marvell 88SE9128 chipset)
Optical Drive: HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH10LS30 SATA Bluray
Lexmark S305 Printer/Scanner/Copier (USB)
CTF-430 Tablet & Pen
WEI Score: |
12-14-2010
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 |
Color me jaded, but there's very little reason to ever consider RAID0. You won't see the performance benefits that are present in theory, and most often, those who claim to see the performance boost are using synthetic benchmarks, or "just feel like it's faster". It was a fad, and it was debunked and put to bed a few years ago. SSDs may be a little different, but at the same time, the same rules apply...if one SSD is unreliable and fails...you lose your data on both. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7-2600 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3P-B3 Memory 12 GB Patriot Extreme DDR3-1333 Graphics Card Nvidia GTX 470 Monitor(s) Displays Dell UltraSharp 2209WA PSU OCZ ModStream 700W Case CoolerMaster HAF 912 Advanced Cooling CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus Hard Drives OCZ Agility3 240 GB, WD5001AALS, WD7501AALS |
12-14-2010
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#9 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit & 64-bit both SP1 |
Point noted and taken. However, I should point out that I have and still am using RAID0 on my system and was doing so on my previous system without any issues whatsoever. It all depends on your hardware. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built, N/A OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit & 64-bit both SP1 CPU AMD Athlon (tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 7550 @2.5GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA770-ES3 Memory 2 x 2GB PC2-6400 (DDR2-800), Ganged Mode, (4GB total) Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTX 550 Ti 1GB Sound Card Realtek High Definition on board solution (ALC 892) Monitor(s) Displays ViewSonic VA1912w Widescreen (VGA) Screen Resolution 1440x900 Keyboard Microsoft Digital Media Pro Keyboard (USB) Mouse Microsoft Comfort Optical Mouse 3000 (USB) PSU XFX Pro Series 850W Semi-Modular Case Antec NSK 4000B II Cooling 1 x 80mm Front Inlet (with filter) 1 x 120mm Rear Exhaust Hard Drives OCZ Petrol SSD 64GB SATA III
OCZ Petrol SSD 128GB SATA III
Samsung HD501LJ 500GB SATA II x2
Hitachi HDS721010CLA332 1TB SATA II
1 x Iomega 1.5TB Ext USB 2.0 Internet Speed NetGear DG834Gv3 ADSL Modem/Router (Ethernet) ~4.0 Mb/s (O2) Other Info PCI-Express SATA III controller (Marvell 88SE9128 chipset)
Optical Drive: HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH10LS30 SATA Bluray
Lexmark S305 Printer/Scanner/Copier (USB)
CTF-430 Tablet & Pen
WEI Score: |
12-14-2010
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#10 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Dwarf It all depends on your hardware. It depends little on hardware and mostly on your luck, and how much risk you are willing to take for percieved (not actual) performance gains. My main point is...it was debunked and put to bed years ago, with Anandtech's article still being considered the final word, aka the nail in the coffin. If anyone wants to still run RAID0 on their own, so be it, but I truly think people need to stop short of suggesting or recommending it. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7-2600 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3P-B3 Memory 12 GB Patriot Extreme DDR3-1333 Graphics Card Nvidia GTX 470 Monitor(s) Displays Dell UltraSharp 2209WA PSU OCZ ModStream 700W Case CoolerMaster HAF 912 Advanced Cooling CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus Hard Drives OCZ Agility3 240 GB, WD5001AALS, WD7501AALS All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:28 AM. |  |