| Windows 7: Need your input on AMD upgrade |
16 Dec 2010
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#1 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Southern California |
Need your input on AMD upgrade Thanks in advance for your input.
All my spec's are listed below but basically I'm ill I have a problem and that is I can't leave well enough alone!
So on that note here we go:
Current CPU is a very solid Phenom X4 9950BE @ 2.6. Now I'm considering going with the Phenom X4 9965BE @ 3.4 which is available delivered out the door for $167.99. My concern is will this be a unplug old and plug in new and let the system see the new chip and I'm off to the races or what am I facing realistically ? 
PS; the old chip will eventually go into a system I'm building off spare parts for my girlfriend. | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number A blend of brains, brawn and dumb luck, ask me about rig #2 ! OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 CPU i7 3770k OC'd 4.6 @ 1.17v, still love my FX 8120 Motherboard MSI P67A-GD80 b3 Memory 16 gb Crucial Ballistix Tracer DDR3 9-9-9-27 @ 2000 Graphics Card XFX Radeon 7870 Sound Card On board HD audio with lossless 24 bit/192 sample rate Monitor(s) Displays (2) LG LED 23" 1920 x 1080 2ms Monitors via mini d-port Screen Resolution 1680 X 1050 p Keyboard (2) Logitech Illuminated Keyboards (1) usb (1) wireless K800 Mouse Logitech G9x & T-BC21 - nano nx for the laptop PSU Ultra X4 modular 1050 watt 80% silver rating & APC 1200 RS Case CoolerMaster Storm Styker Cooling 6 case fans 140mm & 120mm, Thermaltake h2o extreme Hard Drives Samsung 256 gb 830 SSD sata III
(2) 1 tb Hitachi deskmates/sata II
(1) 1 tb WD green/sata II
(2) 2 tb WD My Book/esata
(1) 500 gb Sea. Freeagent/esata
(2) 250 gb Sea. Freeagent go's/usb
(1) WD 2 tb Green 64 sata III
(1) 120 gb OCZ Vertex SS Internet Speed Upgraded from bottom of the barrel to bareable Other Info 4 Noctua case fans + 3 Noctua in p/p on H100 cooler
Integrated hot swap drive bays for 2.5" Drives
(2) Lite-on dvd/cd optical 22X
Integrated fan controller and led on/off
HP Officejet Pro L7680 all-n-one
HP 4 laserjet (the beast)
Hot swappable 3.5" hard drive bay
Belkin Play N600 HD router
Asus USB 3 & sata 6 PCIe card
Vantec IDE to sata adptr./Ultra sata adptr
HP Probook i3 laptop |
16 Dec 2010
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 The Golden State |
Are these first generation Phenoms or the Phenom II?
Short answer: It should be a simple operation.
You have to be concerned with the processor wattage and how much the motherboard is designed to handle. Also, using an AM3 processor in an AM2+ socket will cause the processor to operate at AM2+ specs. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Rig 1 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition @ 3.4GHz (AM2+) Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA790X-UD4P (AM2+) Memory Corsair CM2X4096-8500C5 (4 X 2GB) Graphics Card XFX Radeon HD 5770 / Diamond Radeon HD 5770 CrossFireX Sound Card Asus Xonar DS (PCI) Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 932bw+ (3) Screen Resolution 4320x900 Keyboard Logitech Desktop Wave Mouse Logitech LX8 Laser PSU Corsair CMPSU-750TX Case Cooler Master HAF 932 Cooling Corsair Hydro Series H50 Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 2 80 GB - Windows 7 System --
WD Caviar Black 1TB - Music, Movies, Vids, Pics --
WD Caviar Black 640GB - User Profiles & Games --
WD My Book 320GB external Internet Speed 20 down / 2 up Other Info LG GGC-H20L Blu-Ray / HDDVD combo --
Hauppauge HVR-1250 --
Silverstone MFP-51 --
Logitech Webcam C600 |
16 Dec 2010
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Southern California |
Phenom II X4 on both the 2.6 for the 3.4. Both are 125watt chips though my board will handle 140 watt max. and is approved for both chips. My issue is will I need to clean install? or can I work around this and update Bios and drivers before or after new chip installed? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number A blend of brains, brawn and dumb luck, ask me about rig #2 ! OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 CPU i7 3770k OC'd 4.6 @ 1.17v, still love my FX 8120 Motherboard MSI P67A-GD80 b3 Memory 16 gb Crucial Ballistix Tracer DDR3 9-9-9-27 @ 2000 Graphics Card XFX Radeon 7870 Sound Card On board HD audio with lossless 24 bit/192 sample rate Monitor(s) Displays (2) LG LED 23" 1920 x 1080 2ms Monitors via mini d-port Screen Resolution 1680 X 1050 p Keyboard (2) Logitech Illuminated Keyboards (1) usb (1) wireless K800 Mouse Logitech G9x & T-BC21 - nano nx for the laptop PSU Ultra X4 modular 1050 watt 80% silver rating & APC 1200 RS Case CoolerMaster Storm Styker Cooling 6 case fans 140mm & 120mm, Thermaltake h2o extreme Hard Drives Samsung 256 gb 830 SSD sata III
(2) 1 tb Hitachi deskmates/sata II
(1) 1 tb WD green/sata II
(2) 2 tb WD My Book/esata
(1) 500 gb Sea. Freeagent/esata
(2) 250 gb Sea. Freeagent go's/usb
(1) WD 2 tb Green 64 sata III
(1) 120 gb OCZ Vertex SS Internet Speed Upgraded from bottom of the barrel to bareable Other Info 4 Noctua case fans + 3 Noctua in p/p on H100 cooler
Integrated hot swap drive bays for 2.5" Drives
(2) Lite-on dvd/cd optical 22X
Integrated fan controller and led on/off
HP Officejet Pro L7680 all-n-one
HP 4 laserjet (the beast)
Hot swappable 3.5" hard drive bay
Belkin Play N600 HD router
Asus USB 3 & sata 6 PCIe card
Vantec IDE to sata adptr./Ultra sata adptr
HP Probook i3 laptop |
16 Dec 2010
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 The Golden State |
Oh, that's easy then.
Just remove and reinstall. You should obviously check first, but you probably won't even need to upgrade the BIOS as those chips are so similar.
Question: Are you sure you have the correct model numbers? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Rig 1 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition @ 3.4GHz (AM2+) Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA790X-UD4P (AM2+) Memory Corsair CM2X4096-8500C5 (4 X 2GB) Graphics Card XFX Radeon HD 5770 / Diamond Radeon HD 5770 CrossFireX Sound Card Asus Xonar DS (PCI) Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 932bw+ (3) Screen Resolution 4320x900 Keyboard Logitech Desktop Wave Mouse Logitech LX8 Laser PSU Corsair CMPSU-750TX Case Cooler Master HAF 932 Cooling Corsair Hydro Series H50 Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 2 80 GB - Windows 7 System --
WD Caviar Black 1TB - Music, Movies, Vids, Pics --
WD Caviar Black 640GB - User Profiles & Games --
WD My Book 320GB external Internet Speed 20 down / 2 up Other Info LG GGC-H20L Blu-Ray / HDDVD combo --
Hauppauge HVR-1250 --
Silverstone MFP-51 --
Logitech Webcam C600 |
16 Dec 2010
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#5 | | MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit |
First off, as for "Not leaving well enough alone!" I'm the same, hence why I bought a half decent £400 machine a year ago and have now no original parts left and I'm sitting with a £1000 + machine. I also used old parts for 2 machines for my parents (I upgraded a few times  )
I'm currently on a Phenom II x4 965 3.4GHz BE. I switched from a Athlon II x2 2.9GHz. Performance wise I'm sure I would have noticed a greater impact because your Phenom I is probably a better CPU than my original, but you should notice the difference. A friend and I both had the same set up to begin with and the difference in games between the old Athlon II and the Phenom II is night and day. (Also, with the BE if you have the BIOS set to let it work full power, it will hit 3.6 without having to over clock it manually [which I know nothing about])
As for installing it, have you not done it before or are you just asking if it will be a simple swap? I installed a CPU for the first time some months back, I was sort of worried about it, but it was a breeze. I've done quite a few since in friends and family's machines and had my on out a few times installing new coolers etc. | My System Specs | | OS MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit |
16 Dec 2010
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#6 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Southern California |
Yeah really my mind tells me that as they are the same family of chips just one at 2.6 currently and the other is at the top end of the range at 3.4 I'm thinking it's a plug and play????? But I've been wrong before and I'll be wrong again.....but I'm looking for people that have made this upgrade and know from experience or the like ! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number A blend of brains, brawn and dumb luck, ask me about rig #2 ! OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 CPU i7 3770k OC'd 4.6 @ 1.17v, still love my FX 8120 Motherboard MSI P67A-GD80 b3 Memory 16 gb Crucial Ballistix Tracer DDR3 9-9-9-27 @ 2000 Graphics Card XFX Radeon 7870 Sound Card On board HD audio with lossless 24 bit/192 sample rate Monitor(s) Displays (2) LG LED 23" 1920 x 1080 2ms Monitors via mini d-port Screen Resolution 1680 X 1050 p Keyboard (2) Logitech Illuminated Keyboards (1) usb (1) wireless K800 Mouse Logitech G9x & T-BC21 - nano nx for the laptop PSU Ultra X4 modular 1050 watt 80% silver rating & APC 1200 RS Case CoolerMaster Storm Styker Cooling 6 case fans 140mm & 120mm, Thermaltake h2o extreme Hard Drives Samsung 256 gb 830 SSD sata III
(2) 1 tb Hitachi deskmates/sata II
(1) 1 tb WD green/sata II
(2) 2 tb WD My Book/esata
(1) 500 gb Sea. Freeagent/esata
(2) 250 gb Sea. Freeagent go's/usb
(1) WD 2 tb Green 64 sata III
(1) 120 gb OCZ Vertex SS Internet Speed Upgraded from bottom of the barrel to bareable Other Info 4 Noctua case fans + 3 Noctua in p/p on H100 cooler
Integrated hot swap drive bays for 2.5" Drives
(2) Lite-on dvd/cd optical 22X
Integrated fan controller and led on/off
HP Officejet Pro L7680 all-n-one
HP 4 laserjet (the beast)
Hot swappable 3.5" hard drive bay
Belkin Play N600 HD router
Asus USB 3 & sata 6 PCIe card
Vantec IDE to sata adptr./Ultra sata adptr
HP Probook i3 laptop |
16 Dec 2010
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit Norfolk, VA |
Here is the correct chip he is looking at.
Phenom X4 965 BE
the new chip looks to be about 20% faster. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HAL-9000 OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit CPU Intel i7 3770K Motherboard Asus Sabertooth Z77 Memory 16GB DDR3 1333 Corsair XMS3 Graphics Card XFX HD6950 2GB EyeFinity Sound Card Logitech G35 & Sennheiser PC135 & VIA HD Monitor(s) Displays 23" HP 2310e, 23" Samsung B2230, 21.5" Viewsonic Screen Resolution 5760x1080 Keyboard Logitech G15 and G13 Mouse Logitech G700 Gaming Mouse PSU Antec True Power New 650watt Case Cooler Master HAF-932 Cooling Corsair H60 Hydro Cooler, 3x 230mm Fans, 2x120mm Fan Hard Drives 16TB of Storage
128GB & 256GB Crucial M4 SSD's, 2X 1TB WD Black, 3x 2TB WD, 3x 2TB Samsung F4, 1.5TB Seagate, WD 500GB, Internet Speed 50/10 Mbit Other Info Speakers : Alesis M1 Active Mk2 Studio Monitors , APC RS 1200 UPS, HP 4500DN Color Laser, HP P1006 mono Laser, Kodak 8500 Dye-Sub, Epson 1280 inkjet, Epson Worforce 610 MFC |
16 Dec 2010
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#8 | | Win 7 Ultimate x64 Etobicoke, Ontario |
Does changing from an Athlon x2 7750 to an Athlon x4 630 count? Did that back early this year and Windows 7 didn't even bat an eye. Swapped CPU's, started up and Windows installed the appropriate driver for the new CPU.
About the only time you would have to re0install Windows is if the HAL doesn't update after the change. That sort of thing usually only happens when changing the number of cores. In your case you're going from a quad to a quad, so other than the change in clock speed (not much different than overclocking, and you definitely don't have to re-install when doing that) Windows shouldn't even notice other than updating the driver up first start up.
Just in case you haven't yet, make sure you have the latest bios (7375v25), MSI Global – Computer, Laptop, Notebook, Desktop, Mainboard, Graphics and more
before doing the swap. 
Quote: Originally Posted by Zepher Here is the correct chip he is looking at.
Phenom X4 965 BE
the new chip looks to be about 20% faster. A little more than that depending on what is being done, Bench - CPU - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Me OS Win 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Phenom II x4 955 @ 4 GHz. Motherboard Asus M5A97 EVO Memory 2x2 GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600 Graphics Card Sapphire HD 6850 Sound Card Xonar DGX w/ Logitech X-530 Monitor(s) Displays Acer S232HL Abid Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech Wave Mouse Logitech G5 v2 PSU Antec Earthwatts 650W Green Case Antec Three Hundred Cooling Cooler Master 212 EVO Hard Drives 120 GB OCZ Vertex 3
500 GB Seagate 7200.12 Internet Speed 24000/1000 |
16 Dec 2010
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#9 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Southern California |
That's correct it's the Phenom II X4 965 BE at 3.4 only surpassed by the limited edition 3.5 which my MSI board doesn't show supported but likely is? AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition AM3 CPU HDZ965FBGMBOX - 3.40GHz, Socket AM3, 6MB Cache, 2000MHz (4000 MTs) FSB, Retail, Processor with Fan at TigerDirect AMD HDZ970FBGMBOX Phenom II X4 970 Black Edition Processor - 3.50GHz, Socket AM3, 6MB Cache, 2000MHz (4000 MTs) FSB, Retail, Processor with Fan at TigerDirect | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number A blend of brains, brawn and dumb luck, ask me about rig #2 ! OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 CPU i7 3770k OC'd 4.6 @ 1.17v, still love my FX 8120 Motherboard MSI P67A-GD80 b3 Memory 16 gb Crucial Ballistix Tracer DDR3 9-9-9-27 @ 2000 Graphics Card XFX Radeon 7870 Sound Card On board HD audio with lossless 24 bit/192 sample rate Monitor(s) Displays (2) LG LED 23" 1920 x 1080 2ms Monitors via mini d-port Screen Resolution 1680 X 1050 p Keyboard (2) Logitech Illuminated Keyboards (1) usb (1) wireless K800 Mouse Logitech G9x & T-BC21 - nano nx for the laptop PSU Ultra X4 modular 1050 watt 80% silver rating & APC 1200 RS Case CoolerMaster Storm Styker Cooling 6 case fans 140mm & 120mm, Thermaltake h2o extreme Hard Drives Samsung 256 gb 830 SSD sata III
(2) 1 tb Hitachi deskmates/sata II
(1) 1 tb WD green/sata II
(2) 2 tb WD My Book/esata
(1) 500 gb Sea. Freeagent/esata
(2) 250 gb Sea. Freeagent go's/usb
(1) WD 2 tb Green 64 sata III
(1) 120 gb OCZ Vertex SS Internet Speed Upgraded from bottom of the barrel to bareable Other Info 4 Noctua case fans + 3 Noctua in p/p on H100 cooler
Integrated hot swap drive bays for 2.5" Drives
(2) Lite-on dvd/cd optical 22X
Integrated fan controller and led on/off
HP Officejet Pro L7680 all-n-one
HP 4 laserjet (the beast)
Hot swappable 3.5" hard drive bay
Belkin Play N600 HD router
Asus USB 3 & sata 6 PCIe card
Vantec IDE to sata adptr./Ultra sata adptr
HP Probook i3 laptop |
16 Dec 2010
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#10 | | Win 7 Ultimate x64 Etobicoke, Ontario |
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Me OS Win 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Phenom II x4 955 @ 4 GHz. Motherboard Asus M5A97 EVO Memory 2x2 GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600 Graphics Card Sapphire HD 6850 Sound Card Xonar DGX w/ Logitech X-530 Monitor(s) Displays Acer S232HL Abid Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech Wave Mouse Logitech G5 v2 PSU Antec Earthwatts 650W Green Case Antec Three Hundred Cooling Cooler Master 212 EVO Hard Drives 120 GB OCZ Vertex 3
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