| Windows 7: Need a small/cheap PC upgrade |
22 Dec 2010
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#1 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 |
Need a small/cheap PC upgrade I have a (almost) 6 year old desktop which is on it's last legs and I need a fairly cheap replacement.
Current specs are:
AMD Athlon 64 3500+
2GB DDR
GTS250 1GB
2x 250GB HDDs
480W Tagan PSU
I'm currently looking at a:
Intel i3 540 (maybe a i5 if psu can handle it)
Gigabyte GA-H55M-UD2H
4GB DDR3 1600 RAM
GTS250
480W Tagan PSU
I know it isn't the best of specs but I'm not made of money and I want something cheap before the VAT goes back up next year.
So would the newer rig be ok on that PSU? That's my main concern atm. I'm like to push to a i5 760 but I'm not too sure about cooling and power consumption. I did read on another forum that someguy with a AMD x2 3700, 4850 and 4GB of ram worked well on his 460W psu. But would the tagan be powerful enough for the new rig?
Also, any other suggestions about specs and where to buy them?
Cheers. | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Desktop OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU Intel i5-2500k @ 3.3Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H Memory 4GB DDR3 Graphics Card Nvidia GTS250 1GB Monitor(s) Displays Sony SDM S95A Screen Resolution 1280x1024 Keyboard Logitech Media Keyboard Mouse Microsoft Intellimouse PSU Corsair HX850W Case Cooler Master 690 II Cooling Thermalright True Spirit 140mm & 3x 120mm & 3x 140mm Fans Hard Drives 1x 1TB, 2x 250GB HDDs Internet Speed 8MB |
22 Dec 2010
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Athens, Greece |
the 480w psu may handle all that but i would get a t least 500-600 W just to be on the safe side.
I used to have a 450 W psu on my server that died just a week after i installed extra 3 X 1.5 TB drives. The server has a AMD x2 4000-something and a standard Gygabit motherboard with a cheap fan. Hard drives like power, so do powerful CPUs. I use a 1100W here but i have a dozen of drives, 24GB ram (havent updated my statistic here) and plenty of other usb/esata/firewire devices and I doubt the machine could have handled all that with a 800W PSU. Again.. I'm almost sure it will handle the new system but still you can check this yourself.. There are a bunch of PSU calculators on the web. Good luck. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Personally Assembled OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Core I7 920 Motherboard Evga X58 SLI LE Memory 12 GB Corsair DDR3-1600 PC3 12800 Graphics Card eVGA GeForce GTS 250 1 GB Sound Card Presonus Firebox/FS Monitor(s) Displays LG W2753 27" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Standard MS keyboard Mouse Standard MS mouse PSU CoolerMaster UCP 1100W Case Lian Li PC-50 Aluminum Tower Cooling CoolerMaster V10 Hard Drives 2x A-DATA SSD 64GB
1x WD VR 150GB 10K (Internal)
2x WD RE3 750 GB (32MB cache, 7200) (Internal)
5x Various WD (External) Internet Speed 24/1 Mbit ADSL2+ |
22 Dec 2010
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#3 | | Windows 7 Pro X64 SP1 Danbury, CT |
Here's what eVGA recommends for use with a GTS450: EVGA | Products=
(400W, with 22A available at +12V). I'd expect your Tagan 480W PSU to be adequate, although you don't list its 12V spec. (That's usually listed on a label on the PSU itself, if you feel like looking in the PC's case.)
The motherboard requires a 24 pin ATX power connector, and a 4 pin +12V CPU connector. I can't recall whether your old Socket 939 system needed the same, but I think so. (In a pinch, you may be able to use a 20 pin ATX connector.) If the PSU lacks a 6 pin PCI-E power connector, a Molex adapter is usally supplied with the graphics card. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number homegrown OS Windows 7 Pro X64 SP1 CPU Intel Core I7-3930k Motherboard Asus P9X79 Pro Memory 16 GB Gskill DDR3-2133 Graphics Card eVGA GTX680 Sound Card Creative X-Fi Titanium Monitor(s) Displays As PA246Q Screen Resolution 1920 X 1200 Keyboard cheap Logitech USB Mouse Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer (old optical) USB PSU PCP&C Silencer 750 Crossfire Case Silverstone FT02 Cooling Noctua NH-D14 Hard Drives Corsair Force GT, 120 GB
WDC 1.5TB Caviar Black Internet Speed 6Mb cable Other Info Pioneer BDR-205
Samsung SH-203B
Monsoon 5.1 speakers |
22 Dec 2010
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#4 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
Why replace the mobo. You have an AM2 socket and could upgrade to a 5600+ (that is cheap and the most powerful AM2 CPU) and then add 2GBs of RAM and you are in business. I don't think the i3 will be a lot better than the 5600+ but I think my solution would be a lot cheaper. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
22 Dec 2010
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#5 | | Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bit Grafton,IL |
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Hopalong/ Godzilla OS Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bit CPU Intel Core i7-870 Lynnfield 2.93GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Motherboard ASUS P7P55D-E PRO Memory 8GB@1400MHz Crucial Ballistix DDR3-1600 4x2GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 Sound Card VIA Onboard Monitor(s) Displays Asus VS248H-P 24"; Samsung SyncMaster 941BW 19"ws Screen Resolution 1920x1080; 1440x900 Keyboard Logitech K-320 Mouse Kensington PSU COOLER MASTER Silent Pro RS850-AMBAJ3-US 850W Modular Case COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN5-GP Black Cooling Scythe "Mugen-2 Rev.B" (2 ScytheKaze-Jyuni PWM fans) Hard Drives Samsung 830 120GB SSD
Intel 320 120GB SSD
Western Digital Caviar Black WD7501AALS 750GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Antivirus Avast Inernet Suite Browser IE 9 ; Chrome |
22 Dec 2010
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#6 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 |

Quote: Originally Posted by whs Why replace the mobo. You have an AM2 socket and could upgrade to a 5600+ (that is cheap and the most powerful AM2 CPU) and then add 2GBs of RAM and you are in business. I don't think the i3 will be a lot better than the 5600+ but I think my solution would be a lot cheaper. AM2 is socket 939? I didn't know that.
Also, given the fact that I have 4 512mb DDR sticks of RAM (maxed out), I really could do with more.
Plus since I've decided to wait and get the new Intel Sandy Bridge CPUs in January, I doubt a 5600+ will provide the long term benefits the i5 2400 will provide. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Desktop OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU Intel i5-2500k @ 3.3Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H Memory 4GB DDR3 Graphics Card Nvidia GTS250 1GB Monitor(s) Displays Sony SDM S95A Screen Resolution 1280x1024 Keyboard Logitech Media Keyboard Mouse Microsoft Intellimouse PSU Corsair HX850W Case Cooler Master 690 II Cooling Thermalright True Spirit 140mm & 3x 120mm & 3x 140mm Fans Hard Drives 1x 1TB, 2x 250GB HDDs Internet Speed 8MB |
22 Dec 2010
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#7 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
Yeah, everybody seems to wait for Sandy Bridge but nobody knows how it will really perform. I was just trying to configure something at a "budget level". But I made a mistake anyhow. Although the 939 socket and the AM2 socket both have 940 pins, they are not compatible. That sucks. Sorry. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
26 Dec 2010
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#8 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 |

Quote: Originally Posted by whs Yeah, everybody seems to wait for Sandy Bridge but nobody knows how it will really perform. I was just trying to configure something at a "budget level". But I made a mistake anyhow. Although the 939 socket and the AM2 socket both have 940 pins, they are not compatible. That sucks. Sorry. Don't feel that you need to beat yourself up about it. Making mistakes it all a apart of life. It's how we learn.
And since I'm on a 6 year old CPU, performance will be noticeable. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Desktop OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU Intel i5-2500k @ 3.3Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H Memory 4GB DDR3 Graphics Card Nvidia GTS250 1GB Monitor(s) Displays Sony SDM S95A Screen Resolution 1280x1024 Keyboard Logitech Media Keyboard Mouse Microsoft Intellimouse PSU Corsair HX850W Case Cooler Master 690 II Cooling Thermalright True Spirit 140mm & 3x 120mm & 3x 140mm Fans Hard Drives 1x 1TB, 2x 250GB HDDs Internet Speed 8MB |
27 Dec 2010
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#9 | | Windows 7 professional X 64 |

Quote: Originally Posted by QuackPot I have a (almost) 6 year old desktop which is on it's last legs and I need a fairly cheap replacement.
Also, any other suggestions about specs and where to buy them?
Cheers. The best place I found recently for computer components (just built a complete new rig and got everything from them) was www.amazon.co.uk
They have a good selection at very good prices and free delivery. Just make sure you order from Amazon themselves and not a third party seller (third parties do not give free delivery). | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self build OS Windows 7 professional X 64 CPU Phenom 11 X 6 1090t 3.2 GHz Motherboard Asus Crosshair III Formula 790FX Memory 8 gb Corsair 1600MHz C9 DDR3 Graphics Card 2 X Saphire HD5770 Vapour X in crossfire Sound Card SupremeFX X-Fi Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 24" full HD Screen Resolution 1920 X 1080 PSU Corsair TX 650 watt Case Antec 902 ultimate gamer case Cooling Zalman CNPS 9900 Hard Drives 3 X 250Gb Sata HHD's |
28 Dec 2010
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#10 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by QuackPot I have a (almost) 6 year old desktop which is on it's last legs and I need a fairly cheap replacement.
Current specs are:
AMD Athlon 64 3500+
2GB DDR
GTS250 1GB
2x 250GB HDDs
480W Tagan PSU
I'm currently looking at a:
Intel i3 540 (maybe a i5 if psu can handle it)
Gigabyte GA-H55M-UD2H
4GB DDR3 1600 RAM
GTS250
480W Tagan PSU
I know it isn't the best of specs but I'm not made of money and I want something cheap before the VAT goes back up next year.
So would the newer rig be ok on that PSU? That's my main concern atm. I'm like to push to a i5 760 but I'm not too sure about cooling and power consumption. I did read on another forum that someguy with a AMD x2 3700, 4850 and 4GB of ram worked well on his 460W psu. But would the tagan be powerful enough for the new rig?
Also, any other suggestions about specs and where to buy them?
Cheers. That PSU has two 20A 12V rails - each capable of 240W. It should be fine with an I3 and GTS 250. Or so the spec says - these are not always truthful. The GTS250 pulls a maximum of 150W and the I3 75W. PSU loose their power capability over time so you need some margin. That power supply is 6yrs old? Still may be fine - just make sure your PCi-E aux power connector for the graphics card and the MB/CPU power connectors are on different rails.
But I would go for a 550 watt, e.g. you can get a 550W OCZ fatality with 2 25A 12V rails for $64 ($45 with rebate): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817341022 | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built (GeneO industries)/Model 3 OS Windows 7 64 bit SP1 CPU i5 2500k @ 4.5 GHz, 1.264V 124 GFlop (IBT with AVX) Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB (4GBx4) 1600MHz G.skill Ripjaws X 8-8-8-24 Graphics Card MSI GTX 660 Ti PE/OC, 2GB 7160 MHz DDR5 clock, 1228 Mhz Core Sound Card Onboard Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays NEC Spectraview 2490WUXi-SV Screen Resolution 1920 x 1200 Keyboard HP Wireless Mouse HP wireless PSU Seasonic X-850 (2012 KM3 model) Case Fractal Design "Define R3" Cooling CM TPC 812 push/pull, 3 120mm, 2 TY-140 case fans Hard Drives Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (System), Crucial 128GB M4 SSD, 2x WD Caviar 1TB Black internal (data), 1x WD Blue 6Gb/s 1TB Internal, 1x 2TB eSata WD20EARS Green, 2x 500GB Seagate external USB, 1x 350GB exte Internet Speed 27.8 Mb/s down, 5.6 Mb/s up Other Info USB 3.0 x4 , SATA III x4, eSATA x3, SATA II x4, USB 2.0 x8. 2 Samsung DVD R/W drives.
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