| Windows 7: Raid 0 + AHCI? |
09 Jan 2011
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#1 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 |
Raid 0 + AHCI? So I picked up a pair of Corsair Force 120Gb SSD drives and set them up in RAID 0. Figured I could just slap them in, load the AMD RAID drivers then do a clean install of Win 7. Which I’ve done and everything seems to be working fine. Now reading about the performance benefits when setting your drive controller to AHCI within Windows. My question is, can I still set the controller to AHCI within Windows even though I’ve configured the drives in a RAID 0? The BIOS only allows 3 choices, IDE, RAID and AHCI. It’s a Asus M4A7TD EVO Motherboard (AMD 870/SB 850 chipset) | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Misfits Machine! OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 CPU Intel i7 2600K @ 4.8Ghz Motherboard ASUS P8P67 Deluxe Memory G.SKILL Ripjaws X 1866MHz 8Gb Graphics Card 2 X Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 6850 Sound Card Asus Xonar Essence STX Monitor(s) Displays Viewsonic VX2739wm Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Steelseries Merc Stealth Mouse Logitch G700 PSU Corsair Professional Series Gold CMPSU-850AX Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling CPU: Zalman CNPS10X. Case: Stock Hard Drives 2 Corsair Force Series 120GB in RAID0
Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB |
09 Jan 2011
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#2 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 |
Thanks for the reply but still didn’t really answer my question. My BIOS is set to RAID 0 for my 2 SSD. I assumed that setting this to AHCI within the BIOS I would lose the RAID and therefor have to reinstall Windows. However, the many SSD tweaks that I’ve read ( SSD Tweaks and Optimizations in Windows 7) state to set your IDE ATA/ATAPI Controller within device manager to AHCI. Would this not conflict with what the BIOS is set at? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Misfits Machine! OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 CPU Intel i7 2600K @ 4.8Ghz Motherboard ASUS P8P67 Deluxe Memory G.SKILL Ripjaws X 1866MHz 8Gb Graphics Card 2 X Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 6850 Sound Card Asus Xonar Essence STX Monitor(s) Displays Viewsonic VX2739wm Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Steelseries Merc Stealth Mouse Logitch G700 PSU Corsair Professional Series Gold CMPSU-850AX Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling CPU: Zalman CNPS10X. Case: Stock Hard Drives 2 Corsair Force Series 120GB in RAID0
Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB |
09 Jan 2011
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#3 | | Windows 7 Enterprise (x64); Windows Server 2008 R2 (x64) Earth - I wish I was on Risa |
You can pick RAID or AHCI not both. When you pick RAID most times Windows will install a RAID driver that gives performance like the AHCI or better.
If you want AHCI you will need to break the RAID and reload Windows. -WS | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell OP760 OS Windows 7 Enterprise (x64); Windows Server 2008 R2 (x64) Memory 8GB Monitor(s) Displays 2 Dell 19" LCD Screen Resolution 1280x1024 Keyboard Dell Mouse Dell Optical Internet Speed 40meg |
10 Jan 2011
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Ontario, Canada |
On PC's, the implementation of RAID is a superset of AHCI.
or alternatively, AHCI is a subset of RAID.
since you have your BIOS already set to RAID, you're good to go. you're getting all the NCQ and other AHCI jazz.
Even though RAID-0 is... well, i hope you have good frequent backups. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Core i7 960 Motherboard ASUS P6TD Deluxe Memory Corsair XMS3 DDR3-1600 - 12 GB Graphics Card eVGA GTX 275 1792 MB Sound Card Onboard HD etc Monitor(s) Displays Dell SP2208WFP Keyboard MS Natural (you know, like the ones you find in nature...) Mouse MS Intellimouse Explorer PSU BFG EX-1200 Case CoolerMaster HAF 922 Cooling Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme with Noctua NH-12 Fan Hard Drives Western Digital Caviar Black 1 TB x 2 (RAID-1) |
10 Jan 2011
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Just as packet explained, my understanding is that with RAID chosen, you will get the benefits of AHCI. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/2 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
10 Jan 2011
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#6 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Philadelphia, PA |
Took a few posts, but the correct info got out there. AHCI and RAID are two different settings, as explained above. You can set your BIOS to one or the other. You could have seen this by going into your BIOS and looking through the controller options. The "tweaks" you read about were concerning systems without arrays, and just drives used as separate drives. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7-2600 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3P-B3 Memory 12 GB Patriot Extreme DDR3-1333 Graphics Card Nvidia GTX 470 Monitor(s) Displays Dell UltraSharp 2209WA PSU OCZ ModStream 700W Case CoolerMaster HAF 912 Advanced Cooling CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus Hard Drives OCZ Agility3 240 GB, WD5001AALS, WD7501AALS |
10 Jan 2011
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Philadelphia, PA |
If he wants to run in AHCI mode and lose the RAID functionality, yes. I'm a firm believer in the Anandtech tests that prove RAID0 is a waste in a desktop environment. However, that was with mechanical drives. I'm not sure about SSDs, but if it was me, Instead of buying two drives, I would have just bought a single larger one and run it in AHCI. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7-2600 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3P-B3 Memory 12 GB Patriot Extreme DDR3-1333 Graphics Card Nvidia GTX 470 Monitor(s) Displays Dell UltraSharp 2209WA PSU OCZ ModStream 700W Case CoolerMaster HAF 912 Advanced Cooling CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus Hard Drives OCZ Agility3 240 GB, WD5001AALS, WD7501AALS |
10 Jan 2011
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Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost If he wants to run in AHCI mode and lose the RAID functionality, yes. I'm a firm believer in the Anandtech tests that prove RAID0 is a waste in a desktop environment. However, that was with mechanical drives. I'm not sure about SSDs, but if it was me, Instead of buying two drives, I would have just bought a single larger one and run it in AHCI. Agreed, it looks great in benchmarks...but real world performance?????? With the OS and such, it's not about fast sustained writes, but rather fast random I/O...and the RAID configuration isn't helping in that area. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/2 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
10 Jan 2011
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#9 | | Windows 7 Enterprise (x64); Windows Server 2008 R2 (x64) Earth - I wish I was on Risa |

Quote: Originally Posted by Packet On PC's, the implementation of RAID is a superset of AHCI.
or alternatively, AHCI is a subset of RAID.
since you have your BIOS already set to RAID, you're good to go. you're getting all the NCQ and other AHCI jazz.
Even though RAID-0 is... well, i hope you have good frequent backups. +1 | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell OP760 OS Windows 7 Enterprise (x64); Windows Server 2008 R2 (x64) Memory 8GB Monitor(s) Displays 2 Dell 19" LCD Screen Resolution 1280x1024 Keyboard Dell Mouse Dell Optical Internet Speed 40meg |
10 Jan 2011
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#10 | | Windows 7 Enterprise (x64); Windows Server 2008 R2 (x64) Earth - I wish I was on Risa |

Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 Just as packet explained, my understanding is that with RAID chosen, you will get the benefits of AHCI. +1 | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell OP760 OS Windows 7 Enterprise (x64); Windows Server 2008 R2 (x64) Memory 8GB Monitor(s) Displays 2 Dell 19" LCD Screen Resolution 1280x1024 Keyboard Dell Mouse Dell Optical Internet Speed 40meg All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:05 AM. | |