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Windows 7: New Computer

12 Jan 2011   #1
AlexRD

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 
New Computer

I finally managed to save some money for a new computer, about three thousand and i wanted to buy a state of the art computer.

I wanted to know your opinions on which memory, motherboard, everything that i should get. Like, should i get the new generation of i7 or should i get the sixcore?
Which SSD should i get? Which RAM and how much should i buy? Which brand?
You know, that kind of stuff.



Processor: I was thinking on getting a sixcore i7 or the new generation of i7.
Memory: I was thinking OCZ, 2133 MHz GOLD or REAPER.
HD: I was thinking something like RevoDrive or whichever is the best and cheapest.
Motherboard: I was thinking EVGA Classified or Asus Rampage III
Video Card: GTX 580
DVD: I have no idea. I wanted a blu ray reader and burner.
PSU: I have no idea.
Case: I wanted an alienware case but thats a no go. Any ideas will help.



I'm also considering to have a notebook, so if you know a very good cheap notebook let me know


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12 Jan 2011   #2
stormy13
Microsoft MVP

Win 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Look at another ram manufacturer,

OCZ Stops Making DRAM, Focuses on SSDs

For the rest of it start with the power supply before anything else with the components you're looking at. Thinking SLI down the road? If so going to need a bigger PSU than what you would need for a single card, and better to have it to begin with.

As for which CPU to go with, I would tend to go with the new i7 over the hexa-core if for no other reason than for the most part the hexa-core will cost almost as much as the quad.
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12 Jan 2011   #3
essenbe
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Enterprise X64
 
 

FWIW, I tend to agree with Stormy13- I would choose one of the new intel CPUS . It is hard to give advice without knowing exactly what you want to do with the new computer. If you are interested in overclocking, go with one of the 2 K versions and a P67 board. I tend to like the Cooler Master HAF cases because of very good air flow and easier cable management. Maybe start out with 8 GB of DDR3-1600 ram. Get 2 4 GB sticks to allow you to increase it later if needed. You will have to chose your own graphics cards, DVD/CD and HD. At this point I may wait on the SSD as Intel, Crucial and OCZ are going to be coming out with new versions which are supposed to be cheaper. As far as PSU, again it depends on what you are going to put into the case - but I believe you should go higher than what you think you will need. Also, I am willing to pay little extra for modular- it makes cable management so much easier.

These are just a few of my opinions, you will have to make your own choices.
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12 Jan 2011   #4
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

A few observations:

For the Sandy Bridge CPUs you also need a new P67 board. Both will still be error prone because they are brand new. I would go for something that has gone around for a while. But if you get the p67 board, make sure it is Asus. Btw: 6 way may not buy you a lot. I would prefer a higher clocked quad.

OCZ SSDs are a good choice. I have two Vertex and they are excellent. Since you are probably going to use it for the Operating system, a Revo drive is an overkill. It has faster read/write, but that is unimportant for the OS. It is the access time that counts. And a Revo is 0.1ms - just like a Vertex2. Rather buy a little bigger Vertex. BTW: Raid does not buy you anything either (the Revo is a 4x Raid)

For PSU I recommend Antec. But there are other good ones.

Remember: Your system will be old iron when you are done building it. Going overboard with leading edge components just costs you a lot of money. And components that are early in the cycle are to be avoided anyhow - too many bugs. For half the money you can build a system that works just as well - and then you have money left over to build a new one in 2 years (for half the money).
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12 Jan 2011   #5
essenbe
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Enterprise X64
 
 

WHS, good observations. I was thinking of trying to build with one of the new Intel CPUs but was hesitant because of the new technology. It's going to have bugs just like the first gen SSDs. But, that does not mean I won't do it anyway.
As they say, 'no guts, no glory'.
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12 Jan 2011   #6
bobkn

Windows 7 Pro X64 SP1
 
 

Three thousand Euros, US Dollars, UK pounds? (May not matter, unless you can buy stuff from the US.)

In the USA, the I7-980x costs about $1k. The I7-970 is less than $900.

The highest-end Sandy Bridge CPU, the I7-2600K, costs about $330 (4 cores, plus hyperthreading). The I7-2500K is similar, but it lacks hyperthreading, and it's $225. The K CPUs (unlocked multipliers) are of interest mainly for overclocking, but the price differential over the locked ones is small. The main thing that you lose with the current Sandy Bridge CPUs is triple channel RAM; SB is dual channel. That won't arrive until later this year, in completely incompatible CPUs/motherboards.

SSD: the Revodrive is high performance, but if you want to use it for the OS (as most people do with SSDs), it requires a motherboard that can boot from PCI-E. Some (like my Asus P6T Deluxe) can't.

For the RAM, have a look here:

The Best Memory for Sandy Bridge | bit-tech.net

There's not much about brands, though. If I was buying some tomorrow, I'd probably be looking at Gskill.

I'd probably start with 8 GB (2 X 4GB). You'd need Win7 X64.

The GTX580 is a good graphics card. You may want to compare it to the ATI Radeon HD 6970.

PSU: Corsair is well regarded, but they have had some compatibility problems with Asus motherboards. eVGA recommends at least 600W (with at least 42A available at +12V) for a single GTX580. If you ever want to use two cards in SLI, nVidia has a certified list:

Build an SLI PC - Certified SLI-Ready Power Supplies

(The weakest PSUs on it for a pair of 580s are 900W.)

DVD (Bluray): anything but Lite-On.

Case: Cooler Master HAF 932. (If you can tolerate a full tower.)
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12 Jan 2011   #7
Cr00zng

Windows 7 64-bit, Windows 8.1 64-bit, OSX Maverick
 
 

The soon to be released SSD drive maybe cheaper, as essenbe stated, in addition they will be faster as well. OCZ showed off their SATA III SSD drive recently at read speed of 550MB/s; that will make my six month old Crucial C300 SATA III SSD drive with 350MB/s look so old...
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12 Jan 2011   #8
AlexRD

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

Its actually three thousand dollars, and in order to answer all other questions i first must know whats dual, or triple channel?

I know its very stupid to not know this, but its always something i skipped to learn.
My guess would be that its like how many slots you use?

Dual Channel 2x2gb
Triple Channel 3x3gb


If so, what are the differences?
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12 Jan 2011   #9
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

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13 Jan 2011   #10
stormy13
Microsoft MVP

Win 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote:
The main thing that you lose with the current Sandy Bridge CPUs is triple channel RAM; SB is dual channel.
I wouldn't get too hung up that little detail,

Core i5 2500K and Core i7 2600K review

Synthetics - Intel Sandy Bridge 2600K & 2500K Processors Review | [H]ard|OCP
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