| Windows 7: Please give advice on replacement motherboard |
16 Jan 2011
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#1 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Moscow, Russia |
Please give advice on replacement motherboard Could someone help me find a good replacement motherboard for the rest of my components?
This is a looong story...sorry in advance.
Here is what's going on. I had a motherboard die: MSI K9 SLI Platinum. Yeah it's a MUCH older board. A capacitor decided to start bulging, and I had everything setup how I liked it, so I found an exact replacement. Long story short, the board I found was used and was cheap. I put it all together with a new 550Watt PS and ran it for a few days. Everything seemed fine, then for no reason, the computer just shuts down....no warning...nothing. Power light on the front of the case is flashing and the only way I can restart the machine is by switching off the PSU and unplugging it, waiting till it discharges and then plug it back in.....and then it switched back on. I thought it was some overheating problem after doing some research. So I bought one of those pretty good Thermaltake SpinQ fans. I thought I had figured out the problem and maybe the mainboard was shutting down because of heat. A week ago, it decided to shut down in the middle of work....no warning. It wasn't hot at all. CPU was barely at 40c and the system was a few degrees warmer. So I cross this out. I check the BIOS on the MOBO and it's the last one they put out for this board. I found a bunch of threads on a forum talking about MSI boards and this shutting down for no reason problem. I didn't find a solution. Computer was acting fine....until today. Today it decided to act up like a red-headed step child. It shut down 4-5 times before I boot it in safe mode and backed up all my stuff. While in safe mode, it was fine. It didn't shut down or act up. I rebooted into windows and 17 seconds after (Event Viewer) it shut down again. Thinking I had some kind of weird stuff going on. I rebooted back into safe mode and started looking for some kind of sign. However when the power shuts down abruptly, there's nothing you can see here. I found some errors on Windows Indexing files being corrupt. At this point, after all was backed up, I wrote zeroes to the drive and reinstalled a clean Windows 7. 10 seconds into a fresh install in Normal mode and it shuts down again! I went BACK into safe mode...and it was stable.
To me this makes no sense at all. I would like to guess it was the power supply because it's not a name brand high power unit. But if it was the power supply...wouldn't it kill over in safe mode just the same? So at this point...I'm guessing it's the motherboard.
What I would like for you guys to do, is offer me some advice for a replacement motherboard. I don't have a ton of money to throw into this thing because eventually it will get left behind here when I move back to the states.
My system:
OS  Windows 7 Ultimate CPU  AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 5600+ Motherboard  MSI K9 Platinum SLI_JUNK!Memory  G-Skill PC2-6400 4GB Graphics Card(s)  MSI GeForce 8800GTS OC X2 SLI Sound Card  M-Audio Delta 1010 PCI Monitor(s) Displays  2X Acer 22" LDC Screen Resolution  1680X1050 Hard Drives  2X Hitachi SATA 500GB
Thanks in advance. | My System Specs |
| OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU QuadCore AMD Phenom II X4 B45, 3100 MHz Motherboard ASRock M3A770DE Memory 4GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600MHz Graphics Card MSI R5770 Hawk 1GB GDDR5 Sound Card M-Audio Delta 1010 PCI Monitor(s) Displays 2X Acer 22" LCD Screen Resolution 1680X1050 Mouse Logitech G9 Laser PSU Thermaltake 675watt 80 Bronze Case Generic Cooling Thermaltake SpinQ 360 Hard Drives 2x Hitachi 7200RPM SATA 500GB
1x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 500GB |
16 Jan 2011
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#2 | | windows 7 ultimate 64 bit |
In safe mode the drivers for your video card are not active....I would try a power supply.... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number homemade OS windows 7 ultimate 64 bit CPU FX 8350@4300mhz COOLER MASTER Seidon 120M water cooler Motherboard ASRock 990FX Extreme4 AM3+ Memory 16gb Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600 Graphics Card Sapphire 5850 & XFX 5850 crossfire Monitor(s) Displays hanns g 1680X1050 Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard z merc Mouse Logitech wireless m705 PSU dual Antec 650 & Rosewill 530 watt continuous Case homemade Cooling 4 120mm@50cfm each/2 120mm@90cfm Hard Drives ADATA 256 gig SSD + 2 junk Internet Speed dsl |
16 Jan 2011
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 X64/ linux in VM NW Florida |
I would agree about the PSU being suspect. If you would like this is what I believe to be the link to your MB. Check the specifications to be sure your ram and other hardware is compatible with the MB. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built- Always under construction OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 X64/ linux in VM CPU Intel i7-3770K Motherboard Asus Maximus V Extreme Z77 Memory 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws Z DDR3-2400 (2X4GB) Graphics Card EVGA GTX 670 SC 4GB Sound Card On Board Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24" LCD Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech G500 PSU CORSAIR AX850 Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Custom Water Cooling Hard Drives Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB, Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB, Samsung 830 256GB, Samsung HD103SJ 1TB . External HD- Black X dock esata 1TB Samsung Spinpoint, Rosewill USB 3.0 dock 1TB Samsung Spinpoint Internet Speed carrier pigeon speed Antivirus MSE/MBAM Browser ie8 Other Info 2nd Rig,Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 X64, i7-2600K, Asrock P67 Extreme 4, 8GB DDR3-2133, HAF XM case, Noctua NH-D14, Gigabyte HD6950 OC 1GB, 2 X Crucial M4 128GB, Asus 24" LED.
Laptop- Samsung RF711-SO1 17" i5-2310M, 8GB DDR3-1333, Crucial M4 and OCZ vertex2, Nvidia GT540M.Win 7 HP X64 SP1. |
17 Jan 2011
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Moscow, Russia |
Thanks for the reply guys. I'm thinking I am going to go for an ASrock motherboard that supports AM2-AM3 so I can upgrade later.
Also, what do you guys think about Antec power supplies? Any brands I should stay away from that are complete junk? Here in Russia, they don't have much of a selection on stuff unless it's online. And I made a mistake of buying one junk power supply already (Kimpro) <<--- It looked OK, had modular cables, fan speed control. But after a month the fans starting making noise and I do believe this is the main problem now.
Going to replace MB and PSU to just be done with it.
Thanks for the replies and cheers from the Tundra | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU QuadCore AMD Phenom II X4 B45, 3100 MHz Motherboard ASRock M3A770DE Memory 4GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600MHz Graphics Card MSI R5770 Hawk 1GB GDDR5 Sound Card M-Audio Delta 1010 PCI Monitor(s) Displays 2X Acer 22" LCD Screen Resolution 1680X1050 Mouse Logitech G9 Laser PSU Thermaltake 675watt 80 Bronze Case Generic Cooling Thermaltake SpinQ 360 Hard Drives 2x Hitachi 7200RPM SATA 500GB
1x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 500GB |
17 Jan 2011
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 X64/ linux in VM NW Florida |
In my opinion Antec is a good PSU. Personally, I prefer Corsair. But Seasonic and some Cooler Master PSU's are good. Do your research, Make sure you are getting sufficient power, Also check the different models, some models are better than others. Go to sites that sell computer equipment and read the user feedback. That will help you know if the specific PSU you are looking at is reliable and is right for you, | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built- Always under construction OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 X64/ linux in VM CPU Intel i7-3770K Motherboard Asus Maximus V Extreme Z77 Memory 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws Z DDR3-2400 (2X4GB) Graphics Card EVGA GTX 670 SC 4GB Sound Card On Board Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24" LCD Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech G500 PSU CORSAIR AX850 Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Custom Water Cooling Hard Drives Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB, Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB, Samsung 830 256GB, Samsung HD103SJ 1TB . External HD- Black X dock esata 1TB Samsung Spinpoint, Rosewill USB 3.0 dock 1TB Samsung Spinpoint Internet Speed carrier pigeon speed Antivirus MSE/MBAM Browser ie8 Other Info 2nd Rig,Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 X64, i7-2600K, Asrock P67 Extreme 4, 8GB DDR3-2133, HAF XM case, Noctua NH-D14, Gigabyte HD6950 OC 1GB, 2 X Crucial M4 128GB, Asus 24" LED.
Laptop- Samsung RF711-SO1 17" i5-2310M, 8GB DDR3-1333, Crucial M4 and OCZ vertex2, Nvidia GT540M.Win 7 HP X64 SP1. |
17 Jan 2011
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#6 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Moscow, Russia |
Hello, I checked out Newegg and Antec is looking good. I hate to buy another Motherboard if its just the powersupply that is bad. Maybe I should just get a new PSU first. The thing that doesn't make sense to me is that the computer will run fine in safe mode, but not normal as it shuts down without warning. Today I booted it to grab some stuff off my backup drive, and it stayed running (was off all night) for about 5-10 mins before it shut off.
Maybe someone could explain why the computer will stay running in safe mode, and not normal if it is indeed the PSU. I'm very intrigued about this problem. Keep in mind that the only thing on the drive is a fresh copy of Windows 7 Ultimate....so it's not drivers because no drivers are installed yet. I know its hardware for sure.
Thanks everyone. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU QuadCore AMD Phenom II X4 B45, 3100 MHz Motherboard ASRock M3A770DE Memory 4GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600MHz Graphics Card MSI R5770 Hawk 1GB GDDR5 Sound Card M-Audio Delta 1010 PCI Monitor(s) Displays 2X Acer 22" LCD Screen Resolution 1680X1050 Mouse Logitech G9 Laser PSU Thermaltake 675watt 80 Bronze Case Generic Cooling Thermaltake SpinQ 360 Hard Drives 2x Hitachi 7200RPM SATA 500GB
1x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 500GB |
17 Jan 2011
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 X64/ linux in VM NW Florida |
Just a guess from me. In safe mode several of the services are not operational and therefore it requires less power. that is just a guess and is assuming that it is the PSU. The K9 board is not that bad of a board, but they can go bad also. I know because my board is in RMA now. But, whether it is the board or not, I would suggest a good quality PSU. If you have run memtest86 and eliminated the ram, Prime 95 to test the CPU, Furmark to test the graphics. Then download the programs from your Hard drive mfgr. If all those tests pass it is reasonable to assume it is either the MB or PSU. There are tutorials on this site on running each of these tests. If you have done that, I would try a new PSU first because you will need one in either case. After the new PSU, if you still have the same problems you will know that it is probably the Motherboard.
These are just my opinions and what I went through before RMAing my MB. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built- Always under construction OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 X64/ linux in VM CPU Intel i7-3770K Motherboard Asus Maximus V Extreme Z77 Memory 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws Z DDR3-2400 (2X4GB) Graphics Card EVGA GTX 670 SC 4GB Sound Card On Board Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24" LCD Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech G500 PSU CORSAIR AX850 Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Custom Water Cooling Hard Drives Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB, Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB, Samsung 830 256GB, Samsung HD103SJ 1TB . External HD- Black X dock esata 1TB Samsung Spinpoint, Rosewill USB 3.0 dock 1TB Samsung Spinpoint Internet Speed carrier pigeon speed Antivirus MSE/MBAM Browser ie8 Other Info 2nd Rig,Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 X64, i7-2600K, Asrock P67 Extreme 4, 8GB DDR3-2133, HAF XM case, Noctua NH-D14, Gigabyte HD6950 OC 1GB, 2 X Crucial M4 128GB, Asus 24" LED.
Laptop- Samsung RF711-SO1 17" i5-2310M, 8GB DDR3-1333, Crucial M4 and OCZ vertex2, Nvidia GT540M.Win 7 HP X64 SP1. |
17 Jan 2011
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Moscow, Russia |
Excellent. I really appreciate the response.
I've got one more question before I make my list and check prices: What is the very minimum PSU Wattage you should go buy for a configuration like mine? I am going to upgrade my old Geforce 8800GTS OC to a Geforce GTX 460. I just want to make sure I get enough power.
Some people on Newegg seem to be pretty happy with this and its 500w AND Earth Friendly http://*******/gdAyiw
Do you guys think this would be plenty for my setup?
Thanks again!
Last edited by Serpentz; 17 Jan 2011 at 12:53 PM..
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| My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU QuadCore AMD Phenom II X4 B45, 3100 MHz Motherboard ASRock M3A770DE Memory 4GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600MHz Graphics Card MSI R5770 Hawk 1GB GDDR5 Sound Card M-Audio Delta 1010 PCI Monitor(s) Displays 2X Acer 22" LCD Screen Resolution 1680X1050 Mouse Logitech G9 Laser PSU Thermaltake 675watt 80 Bronze Case Generic Cooling Thermaltake SpinQ 360 Hard Drives 2x Hitachi 7200RPM SATA 500GB
1x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 500GB |
17 Jan 2011
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#9 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 X64/ linux in VM NW Florida |
| My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built- Always under construction OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 X64/ linux in VM CPU Intel i7-3770K Motherboard Asus Maximus V Extreme Z77 Memory 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws Z DDR3-2400 (2X4GB) Graphics Card EVGA GTX 670 SC 4GB Sound Card On Board Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24" LCD Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech G500 PSU CORSAIR AX850 Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Custom Water Cooling Hard Drives Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB, Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB, Samsung 830 256GB, Samsung HD103SJ 1TB . External HD- Black X dock esata 1TB Samsung Spinpoint, Rosewill USB 3.0 dock 1TB Samsung Spinpoint Internet Speed carrier pigeon speed Antivirus MSE/MBAM Browser ie8 Other Info 2nd Rig,Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 X64, i7-2600K, Asrock P67 Extreme 4, 8GB DDR3-2133, HAF XM case, Noctua NH-D14, Gigabyte HD6950 OC 1GB, 2 X Crucial M4 128GB, Asus 24" LED.
Laptop- Samsung RF711-SO1 17" i5-2310M, 8GB DDR3-1333, Crucial M4 and OCZ vertex2, Nvidia GT540M.Win 7 HP X64 SP1. |
17 Jan 2011
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#10 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Moscow, Russia |
Oh thanks. That's really cool...and handy. Well I came up with 503 Watts so I'm guessing this one will do. It's $140 here in Russia...everything here is double or triple
Thanks tons | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU QuadCore AMD Phenom II X4 B45, 3100 MHz Motherboard ASRock M3A770DE Memory 4GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600MHz Graphics Card MSI R5770 Hawk 1GB GDDR5 Sound Card M-Audio Delta 1010 PCI Monitor(s) Displays 2X Acer 22" LCD Screen Resolution 1680X1050 Mouse Logitech G9 Laser PSU Thermaltake 675watt 80 Bronze Case Generic Cooling Thermaltake SpinQ 360 Hard Drives 2x Hitachi 7200RPM SATA 500GB
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