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Windows 7: To raid or not to raid

25 Jan 2011   #31

Windows 7 Ultimate x64

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by society misfit View Post
I have to ask. How many of you owned one of those old IBM Deskstar drives? Sorry I can’t remember the model number but they were super-fast for their time.
I did, it was a 30GB Deskstar. In fact, I still have it and it works fine to this day. However, when problems came out, I didn't buy another one...i found alternative drives that were more reliable for machines that I build for family and friends.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by society misfit View Post

Have you ever experienced 2 or more SSD’s in RAID? Would you not be curious to see if it would improve on your video editing? And if it does would you buy into it or would you stick with your opinion? And remember, we are talking about SSD’s not HDD!
I've not run with 2 SSD's in a RAID0 array. As far as my video editing, the problem here is processing power in my CPU and my throughput is not the issue.

As i stated above, if I were using SSD's for storage and were moving very large files frequently than the RAID array would be a sure thing. But for my OS drives and such, and the fact that SSD's are so expensive for so little space...I don't use them as storage drives and thus don't run them in a RAID0 configuration.

The biggest improvement, as far as the OS running is concerned, between an SSD and a standard Hard Disk is not XXX Megabytes per second. It's the insanely low random access time and the fact that it can access files in any location on the hard drive in the exact same time regardless of their location. SSD's get you booted into Windows so much faster not because they are loading GB's of data sequentially fast, but rather than they are loading tons of small files and writing small files at a blistering fast pace.

If you don't believe my last paragraph test it. Put in a standard hard drive and load Windows 7 to it. Then boot it and time it with a stop watch. It might take 25 seconds. Now, replace that standard hard drive with a single SSD drive. The boot time might drop to 14 seconds. Now, replace that single SSD with 2 SSD drives in a RAID array. Time it....Are you now booting in 7 seconds since you are twice as fast? Put in a 3rd drive in the RAID 0 array, are you now into windows in 5 seconds or less? I'm willing to bet with a 2 drive RAID0 array, or 3 drive, or 4 drive array your boot times will be close to 12-14 seconds in each configuration.

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25 Jan 2011   #32

Windows 7 Pro 64bit

Raid is fine if you cannot afford downtime or you want to squeeze the last bit of performance. I was advised that a single disk with backup is more robust because it eliminates the RAID controler as a single point of failure. Consider the cost difference between an SSD and standard disk for backup (and you might already have one).

My file server is RAID 1. Its one failure was the controller which took the whole thing down. It took a week to copy the disks to the replacement because of a Windows unfriendly disk format plus not having the contents available for two weeks.

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27 Jan 2011   #33

Win 7 Ultimate x64

Two SSD's are great - whether they are running discreetly or whether they are raided. In simple RAID-0 you pretty much double the risk of a disk failure since both drives are being used simultaneously BUT, by taking that little bit of extra risk, you do get some performance advantages (not seek times) and you do get more storage space.

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27 Jan 2011   #34

Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by thehappyman View Post
...and you do get more storage space...
I've been giving some thought to adding another X-25M and RAIDing them for that very reason. I've used about 45GB of the 80GB available on the single drive I now have, but could probably find something to throw on there if I had another 80GB to play with. I wouldn't be expecting any great performance increase, though.

(And before anyone asks, all my data is on a 1TB drive with another 1TB drive holding backups of everything. I do a drive image of my SSD automatically every Sunday morning, so I'm not too concerned with reliability issues.)

If I didn't have an SSD at all I might be tempted to grab a pair of these: - Crucial RealSSD C300 CTFDDAC064MAG-1G1 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

and get 128GB for $200.
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27 Jan 2011   #35

Ultimate 7

Nice find on the drives !
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30 Jan 2011   #36

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Retail

I'll be ordering SSD 2 this week.. meanwhile Ive gained a G3 Samsung 2 TB
Of which I don't understand the included tools yet... but 1 of the 2 is a backup utility
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01 Feb 2011   #37

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Retail

Hm this is one statement by Intel that makes one think and wonder (besides the fact it seems a rather pointless statement)

Intel® Rapid Storage Technology 9.6 supports TRIM in AHCI mode and in RAID mode for drives that are not part of a RAID volume.

A defect was filed to correct the information in the Help file that states that TRIM is supported on RAID volumes.
So Im still in hesiation about this purchase, seeing alot of sites/people say gaming does not benefit very much from SSD
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08 Feb 2011   #38

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Retail

Well I have 2 vertex 2 160 Gb in raid now
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08 Feb 2011   #39

Windows 7 Ultimate x64

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by WolfSoul View Post
Well I have 2 vertex 2 160 Gb in raid now
Did you test with just 1, before you went with 2, so you could report how much difference it really made in your day-to-day usage?
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08 Feb 2011   #40

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Retail

I had 1 until today.. and yea the 2nd does speed it up a bit
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