| Windows 7: DIMM4 Slot Freeze Help |
07 Feb 2011
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DIMM4 Slot Freeze Help Hello everyone, I have a problem I've been trying to get to the bottom of. I have 4 x 2GB sticks of Corsair XMS DDR1600 RAM. one pair at 8-8-8-24 and one pair at 9-9-9-24. The mobo underclocks them to 1333Mhz @ 1.5V by default although they can be run at 1600 @ 1.65V. When I run them all, no matter which one of the pair is in the 4th DIMM slot, the BIOS freezes and I have to restart. I have not tried clocking them @ 1600 MHz. I have tested each DIMM individually and they are all perfectly functional.
Is this a bad motherboard issue? Or an incompatibility issue? | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU AMD Phenom II x6 1100T @ 4.0 GHZ Motherboard MSI 890FX-GD65 Memory 4GB Corsair XMS DDR3 1600MHz Graphics Card MSI Twin Frozr GTX 560 Ti Sound Card Asus Xonar Essense STX Monitor(s) Displays 23" 1080p LG LCD Flatscreen Panel Screen Resolution 1920x1080 @ 60Hz Keyboard Logitech G110 Gaming Keyboard Mouse Razer Deathadder 3500DPI Infrared Gaming Mouse PSU Corsair TX850W Case Antec 900 Cooling 4 case fans, 1xZalman 9500 CPU Heatsink Hard Drives 1 x 120 GB OCZ Agility 2 SSD
1 x 500 GB WD Caviar Black 7200 RPM HDD
1 x 250 GB Maxtor OneTouch external USB Flash HDD Other Info Sennheiser HD555 Headphones with Zalman Mic |
07 Feb 2011
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64-bit) Valencia, VE. |
Hello there, it depends.
Since you have different RAM modules, that could be the problem.
Even though, since no matter which RAM module is on the 4th dimm slot, it could be a damaged slot.
Run memtest86+ and try every single RAM in the 4th module to see if any errors shows up. if nothing shows up, then use every single RAM module in every DIMM slot to ensure everything is working OK.
Do that and report back, please | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by Myself OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64-bit) CPU Intel Core i5-2310 @ 2.90GHz Motherboard MSI PH67A-C43 (B3) Memory Kingston KVR 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3 @ 1333MHz Graphics Card PNY XLR8 GTX 560 Ti 1GB GDDR5 Sound Card Realtek HD Audio (ALC 892) Monitor(s) Displays LG W2353V-PF Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 (HDMI) Keyboard Logitech MK320 Wireless Keyboard Mouse Logitech MK320 Wireless Mouse PSU Thermaltake Toughpower XT 575w Modular 80 PLUS Bronze Case Cooler Master CM Storm Enforcer Cooling Thermaltake Frío, CM MegaFlow 200mm (2), CM 120mm (1) Hard Drives Samsung HD502HJ (500GB), ExcelStor J8080S (80GB) Internet Speed dl: 1024kbps, ul: 512kbps |
07 Feb 2011
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Ok, I will do that when I get home. I should probably also mention the following scenarios:
Running all 4: Minor instability in Windows but no crashing/BSODS
Running 1 pair + 1 in 3rd slot: BSOD upon loading Windows | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU AMD Phenom II x6 1100T @ 4.0 GHZ Motherboard MSI 890FX-GD65 Memory 4GB Corsair XMS DDR3 1600MHz Graphics Card MSI Twin Frozr GTX 560 Ti Sound Card Asus Xonar Essense STX Monitor(s) Displays 23" 1080p LG LCD Flatscreen Panel Screen Resolution 1920x1080 @ 60Hz Keyboard Logitech G110 Gaming Keyboard Mouse Razer Deathadder 3500DPI Infrared Gaming Mouse PSU Corsair TX850W Case Antec 900 Cooling 4 case fans, 1xZalman 9500 CPU Heatsink Hard Drives 1 x 120 GB OCZ Agility 2 SSD
1 x 500 GB WD Caviar Black 7200 RPM HDD
1 x 250 GB Maxtor OneTouch external USB Flash HDD Other Info Sennheiser HD555 Headphones with Zalman Mic |
07 Feb 2011
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64-bit) Valencia, VE. |
OK, based on you testing scenarios, i'm guessing it's a motherboard's issue, BUT nonetheless, mixing RAM modules could be also the problem.
Before all the test with memtest86+, do the following:
1) test DIMMs 1/2 with one set of RAM (the 8-8-8-24 ones), let the bios automatically adjust the timings and voltages
2) same as above but adjust the timings yourself on the BIOS to the RAM specs
3) test DIMMs 3/4 with the same RAM set (8-8-8-24) and do both, automatically adjust and adjust timings on BIOS
Then, do the same 3 tests, but with the other RAM set (9-9-9-24) write down every single result and then post back with them
That way we could determine if it's an specific RAM set or if it has something to do with the fact that you mixed different RAMs. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by Myself OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64-bit) CPU Intel Core i5-2310 @ 2.90GHz Motherboard MSI PH67A-C43 (B3) Memory Kingston KVR 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3 @ 1333MHz Graphics Card PNY XLR8 GTX 560 Ti 1GB GDDR5 Sound Card Realtek HD Audio (ALC 892) Monitor(s) Displays LG W2353V-PF Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 (HDMI) Keyboard Logitech MK320 Wireless Keyboard Mouse Logitech MK320 Wireless Mouse PSU Thermaltake Toughpower XT 575w Modular 80 PLUS Bronze Case Cooler Master CM Storm Enforcer Cooling Thermaltake Frío, CM MegaFlow 200mm (2), CM 120mm (1) Hard Drives Samsung HD502HJ (500GB), ExcelStor J8080S (80GB) Internet Speed dl: 1024kbps, ul: 512kbps |
07 Feb 2011
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#5 | | Operating System : Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 6.01.7600 SP1 (x64) MILTON KEYNES |
have you looked at the ram with this excellent program? LINK PassMark RAMMon - Identify RAM type, speed & memory timings RAMMon Quote: an easy to use Windows based application that allows users to quickly retrieve the Serial Presence Detect (SPD) data from their RAM modules. It will allow users to identify a multitude of attributes, of which, includes the manufacturer, the clockspeed and other data of their DDR2, DDR3, XMP and EPP memory devices and even some older memory types. It uses SysInfo DLL SDK to gather the SPD attributes from RAM devices. This information provides a snapshot of the available data for each RAM module installed on the system. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number packard bell IXTREME M5722 OS Operating System : Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 6.01.7600 SP1 (x64) CPU Processor : Intel Core 2 Quad Q8300 @ 2500 MHz Motherboard Mainboard : Packard Bell (Acer EG43M ) Memory Physical Memory :8GB Corsair4x 2GB 800MHz C5 DDR2 Graphics Card Video Card : XFX 6700 AMD Monitor(s) Displays Maestro 234DL - BenQ V2220 - BenQ VW2420H Screen Resolution Current Display :1920x1080p pixels at 60 Hz in HD LED Keyboard Gigabyte Aivia K8100 Mouse TRUST-Wireless Laser Mouse - Carbon edition MI-7770C PSU XFX ProSeries 550W PSU Case PACKARD BELL IXTREME Cooling System Blower Current: 150mA Air Flow16CFM ;Akasa 90mm rear Hard Drives Hard Disks : WDC (1000 GB)
Drive C: (Hard Disk) : 428 GB available on 491 GB
Drive D: (Hard Disk) : 426 GB available on 492 GB
SAMSUNG spinpoint HD103SJ 1000.2 GB
(X 2) KINGSTON SSD NOW V 30GB Internet Speed TP-LINK > TL-WN951N / AV500 Gigabit Powerline Adapters Other Info EXTRA COOLING>(FAN CONTROLLER) PC Bay Cooler 3 x 40mm fans; Akasa AK-HD-BL Blue hard drive cooler 2 x 40 mm fan 4500 rpm 29.7 dBA
Bios> American Megatrends Inc.
Version : P01-A1
Date : 08/31/2009 |
07 Feb 2011
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no I have not. I will make sure to do both when I get home. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU AMD Phenom II x6 1100T @ 4.0 GHZ Motherboard MSI 890FX-GD65 Memory 4GB Corsair XMS DDR3 1600MHz Graphics Card MSI Twin Frozr GTX 560 Ti Sound Card Asus Xonar Essense STX Monitor(s) Displays 23" 1080p LG LCD Flatscreen Panel Screen Resolution 1920x1080 @ 60Hz Keyboard Logitech G110 Gaming Keyboard Mouse Razer Deathadder 3500DPI Infrared Gaming Mouse PSU Corsair TX850W Case Antec 900 Cooling 4 case fans, 1xZalman 9500 CPU Heatsink Hard Drives 1 x 120 GB OCZ Agility 2 SSD
1 x 500 GB WD Caviar Black 7200 RPM HDD
1 x 250 GB Maxtor OneTouch external USB Flash HDD Other Info Sennheiser HD555 Headphones with Zalman Mic |
07 Feb 2011
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#7 | | Operating System : Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 6.01.7600 SP1 (x64) MILTON KEYNES |
its very detailed and will show timings etc give you idea what you are using should help you. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number packard bell IXTREME M5722 OS Operating System : Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 6.01.7600 SP1 (x64) CPU Processor : Intel Core 2 Quad Q8300 @ 2500 MHz Motherboard Mainboard : Packard Bell (Acer EG43M ) Memory Physical Memory :8GB Corsair4x 2GB 800MHz C5 DDR2 Graphics Card Video Card : XFX 6700 AMD Monitor(s) Displays Maestro 234DL - BenQ V2220 - BenQ VW2420H Screen Resolution Current Display :1920x1080p pixels at 60 Hz in HD LED Keyboard Gigabyte Aivia K8100 Mouse TRUST-Wireless Laser Mouse - Carbon edition MI-7770C PSU XFX ProSeries 550W PSU Case PACKARD BELL IXTREME Cooling System Blower Current: 150mA Air Flow16CFM ;Akasa 90mm rear Hard Drives Hard Disks : WDC (1000 GB)
Drive C: (Hard Disk) : 428 GB available on 491 GB
Drive D: (Hard Disk) : 426 GB available on 492 GB
SAMSUNG spinpoint HD103SJ 1000.2 GB
(X 2) KINGSTON SSD NOW V 30GB Internet Speed TP-LINK > TL-WN951N / AV500 Gigabit Powerline Adapters Other Info EXTRA COOLING>(FAN CONTROLLER) PC Bay Cooler 3 x 40mm fans; Akasa AK-HD-BL Blue hard drive cooler 2 x 40 mm fan 4500 rpm 29.7 dBA
Bios> American Megatrends Inc.
Version : P01-A1
Date : 08/31/2009 |
07 Feb 2011
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Try and set the timings so they are the same (at least have the same CAS). Put the CAS 8 ones in first and set the timings for CAS9 like the remaining. Just a hunch but your MB may already be doing this for you. If you are not using one of the RAM profiles, try using it in the BIOS, then add the others. If different timings are being used for the two sets that could be the problem. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built (GeneO industries)/Model 3 OS Windows 7 64 bit SP1 CPU i5 2500k @ 4.5 GHz, 1.264V 124 GFlop (IBT with AVX) Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB (4GBx4) 1600MHz G.skill Ripjaws X 8-8-8-24 Graphics Card MSI GTX 660 Ti PE/OC, 2GB 7160 MHz DDR5 clock, 1228 Mhz Core Sound Card Onboard Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays NEC Spectraview 2490WUXi-SV Screen Resolution 1920 x 1200 Keyboard HP Wireless Mouse HP wireless PSU Seasonic X-850 (2012 KM3 model) Case Fractal Design "Define R3" Cooling CM TPC 812 push/pull, 3 120mm, 2 TY-140 case fans Hard Drives Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (System), Crucial 128GB M4 SSD, 2x WD Caviar 1TB Black internal (data), 1x WD Blue 6Gb/s 1TB Internal, 1x 2TB eSata WD20EARS Green, 2x 500GB Seagate external USB, 1x 350GB exte Internet Speed 27.8 Mb/s down, 5.6 Mb/s up Other Info USB 3.0 x4 , SATA III x4, eSATA x3, SATA II x4, USB 2.0 x8. 2 Samsung DVD R/W drives.
WEI: CPU 7.7, Memory 7.8, Graphics 7.9, Disk 7.9 |
07 Feb 2011
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ok well memtest didnt show any errors for both sets of RAM but I've been experiencing BSODs and system crashes.
020711-8703-01.dmp
2/7/2011 9:11:08 PM
0x00000116
fffffa80`063d4010
fffff880`105c123c
ffffffff`c000009a
00000000`00000004
x64 C:\Windows\Minidump\020711-8703-01.dmp 4 15 7600 262,144
020711-8375-01.dmp
2/7/2011 6:21:51 PM
0x00000124
00000000`00000000
fffffa80`049778f8
00000000`00000000
00000000`00000000
ntoskrnl.exe ntoskrnl.exe+4a587c
NT Kernel & System Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
Microsoft Corporation 6.1.7600.16617 (win7_gdr.100618-1621)
x64 C:\Windows\Minidump\020711-8375-01.dmp 4 15 7600 262,144
020711-9656-01.dmp
2/7/2011 6:19:07 PM
0x00000116
fffffa80`063b6010
fffff880`1043a23c
ffffffff`c000009a
00000000`00000004
dxgkrnl.sys dxgkrnl.sys+5cef8
x64 C:\Windows\Minidump\020711-9656-01.dmp 4 15 7600 563,592
I'm really starting to suspect my motherboard is just in fact shot. Its weird though because when I CAN get it to boot into windows, I can play games at max settings no problem, not even the slightest bit of hitching. No artifacts/distorted graphics, no freezeups. But when it doesn't want to boot into windows its a nightmare. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU AMD Phenom II x6 1100T @ 4.0 GHZ Motherboard MSI 890FX-GD65 Memory 4GB Corsair XMS DDR3 1600MHz Graphics Card MSI Twin Frozr GTX 560 Ti Sound Card Asus Xonar Essense STX Monitor(s) Displays 23" 1080p LG LCD Flatscreen Panel Screen Resolution 1920x1080 @ 60Hz Keyboard Logitech G110 Gaming Keyboard Mouse Razer Deathadder 3500DPI Infrared Gaming Mouse PSU Corsair TX850W Case Antec 900 Cooling 4 case fans, 1xZalman 9500 CPU Heatsink Hard Drives 1 x 120 GB OCZ Agility 2 SSD
1 x 500 GB WD Caviar Black 7200 RPM HDD
1 x 250 GB Maxtor OneTouch external USB Flash HDD Other Info Sennheiser HD555 Headphones with Zalman Mic |
07 Feb 2011
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#10 | | |
124 is usually memory controller related. 116 GPU related. Is this with just 3/4 of your memory operational. Does it BSOD with just 1/2 of your memory (of the same kind)?
Have you tried to configure the memory at the same timings 9-9-9-24? All memory should be at the same timing.
It could be also be a power problem (which in turn could be a MB problem). | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built (GeneO industries)/Model 3 OS Windows 7 64 bit SP1 CPU i5 2500k @ 4.5 GHz, 1.264V 124 GFlop (IBT with AVX) Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB (4GBx4) 1600MHz G.skill Ripjaws X 8-8-8-24 Graphics Card MSI GTX 660 Ti PE/OC, 2GB 7160 MHz DDR5 clock, 1228 Mhz Core Sound Card Onboard Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays NEC Spectraview 2490WUXi-SV Screen Resolution 1920 x 1200 Keyboard HP Wireless Mouse HP wireless PSU Seasonic X-850 (2012 KM3 model) Case Fractal Design "Define R3" Cooling CM TPC 812 push/pull, 3 120mm, 2 TY-140 case fans Hard Drives Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (System), Crucial 128GB M4 SSD, 2x WD Caviar 1TB Black internal (data), 1x WD Blue 6Gb/s 1TB Internal, 1x 2TB eSata WD20EARS Green, 2x 500GB Seagate external USB, 1x 350GB exte Internet Speed 27.8 Mb/s down, 5.6 Mb/s up Other Info USB 3.0 x4 , SATA III x4, eSATA x3, SATA II x4, USB 2.0 x8. 2 Samsung DVD R/W drives.
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