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Windows 7 - GPU and SB boards |
03-07-2011
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#1 | | DEsk1 7 Home pre / Desk2 7 Home pre / Laptop 7 Pro |
GPU and SB boards Look I know I am probably going to end up in strife but I am a total tek-nobrain and I would just like to ask one simple question.
I want to do a build but am limited a bit by budget so... if I build a Sandy Bridge machine with an H67 board and IF the CPU graphics fail / blow up / burnout etc but the main cores remain in good working order can one then use a graphics card on that board for graphical purposes?
I know its a REALLY dumb question and I have tried to find simple answer in Google and have been made to feel as if I should automatically know - but I don't.
Can some kind soul please let me know if what I ask is possible.
Appreciation in advance.
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Prebuilt Desk1 / Toshiba L550 / Desk2 New build OS DEsk1 7 Home pre / Desk2 7 Home pre / Laptop 7 Pro CPU Desk1 AMD Athlon 245 / Laptop i5 430m / Desk2 i5 2500 Motherboard Desk1 Gigabyte MA78LMT / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ? Memory Desk1 4Gb / Desk2 12GB / Laptop 4Gb Graphics Card Integrated Desk1 & Laptop / Desktop2 plus Radeon HD5450 Sound Card Realtek High Def audio Laptop Monitor(s) Displays DEsk1 21.5 Acer / Desk2 Benq 2440 24" / Laptop 17.5" Keyboard MS wireless desktop1 & 2 - M$ 1000 Mouse MS 1000 wireless both Desktops - laptop - Logitec wireless PSU Desk1 generic / Laptop ? Toshiba / Desk2 Corsair HX 650 Case Desk 1 Gigabyte GZ-M2 ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster Cooling Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - 5 Laptop ? Hard Drives Desk1 Samsung HD502HJ ATA desktop
Toshiba MX-5055GSX
Desk2 Seagate (blue) Barracuda 1TB Internet Speed ADSL2+ Other Info 12 usb ports on desktop -Seagate 500Gb external - desktop 2 usb ports 1 eSATA/usb port / ethernet WD 320Gb - laptop
7 usb g hub on laptop 4 port usb hub on desktop
DVI vid connection to monitor - desktop. New build 14 USB (2x3.0)
Running Kaspersky 2011 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MP550 MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2 |
03-07-2011
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 RTM + SP1 |
From a hunch, if that was to happen you would need to replace the CPU. The on chip gpu is part and parcel.
Unless someone here says different.
Lucky | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number The HAFmeister (Custom) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 RTM + SP1 CPU Intel Core i7 950 3.06GHZ (OC'd to 3.99Ghz) Motherboard Asus Rampage III Extreme x58 SATA 6GB & USB 3.0 Memory 6GB OCZ Reaper HPC Edition PC3-16000 (set 1606Mhz 8-8-8-26) Graphics Card EVGA Nvidia Geforce GTX 570 Sound Card Creative SB X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Professional Series Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SM2433BW 24" Widescreen Monitor Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech G9 Gaming Mouse PSU Thermaltake Toughpower 1200w (Modular) Case CoolerMaster HAF-932 Cooling Zalman Reserator XT and ZM-WB5 Plus - GPU uses Stock coolers Hard Drives Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB 32Mb Buffer SATA II
Western Digital Caviar Black 750GB 32Mb Buffer SATA II
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 16Mb Buffer SATA II
Western Digital My Book Essential Edition 750GB USB
Samsung Spinpoint 2TB SATA II Internet Speed 3MB Profile - 350-400kbs (Real-Speed) Other Info IcyBox Hot-Swap Bay,
Logitech G27 Steering Wheel,
Xbox 360 Wirless Elite Controller with Microsoft Reciever and
Play & Charge Kit,
Belkin USB Wireless Adaptor,
GAME Generic Controller (Playstation Looky-Likey),
Epson SX125 All-in-One. |
03-07-2011
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit & 64-bit both SP1 |
I would be inclined to replace the board. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built, N/A OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit & 64-bit both SP1 CPU AMD Athlon (tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 7550 @2.5GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA770-ES3 Memory 2 x 2GB PC2-6400 (DDR2-800), Ganged Mode, (4GB total) Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTX 550 Ti 1GB Sound Card Realtek High Definition on board solution (ALC 892) Monitor(s) Displays ViewSonic VA1912w Widescreen (VGA) Screen Resolution 1440x900 Keyboard Microsoft Digital Media Pro Keyboard (USB) Mouse Microsoft Comfort Optical Mouse 3000 (USB) PSU XFX Pro Series 850W Semi-Modular Case Antec NSK 4000B II Cooling 1 x 80mm Front Inlet (with filter) 1 x 120mm Rear Exhaust Hard Drives OCZ Petrol SSD 64GB SATA III
OCZ Petrol SSD 128GB SATA III
Samsung HD501LJ 500GB SATA II x2
Hitachi HDS721010CLA332 1TB SATA II
1 x Iomega 1.5TB Ext USB 2.0 Internet Speed NetGear DG834Gv3 ADSL Modem/Router (Ethernet) ~4.0 Mb/s (O2) Other Info PCI-Express SATA III controller (Marvell 88SE9128 chipset)
Optical Drive: HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH10LS30 SATA Bluray
Lexmark S305 Printer/Scanner/Copier (USB)
CTF-430 Tablet & Pen
WEI Score: |
03-07-2011
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#4 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by ICit2lol
I want to do a build but am limited a bit by budget so... if I build a Sandy Bridge machine with an H67 board and IF the CPU graphics fail / blow up / burnout etc but the main cores remain in good working order can one then use a graphics card on that board for graphical purposes? I'm using the integrated graphics on an H67 Sandy Bridge right now.
I have never heard of integrated graphics failing although I suppose it is possible. If it did happen, the failure may be part of a larger failure of the entire processor. I'd guess it is a very very low probability.
A greater probability is that it will work fine, but you won't be happy with it. It depends on what work load you intend to put on the graphics.
Mine scores 5.1 on WEI graphics and 5.8 on gaming graphics. It meets all of my expectations and I have no intention of buying a discrete video card. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
03-07-2011
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 |
It sounds like you've been worrying about something that is highly highly unlikely to happen. If the video portion failed, I would assume the processor itself would fail.
The question you could/should be asking is if you decide to add a video card later on, is that possible, and if you choose a board with a PCI-E x16 slot, it definitely is. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7-2600 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3P-B3 Memory 12 GB Patriot Extreme DDR3-1333 Graphics Card Nvidia GTX 470 Monitor(s) Displays Dell UltraSharp 2209WA PSU OCZ ModStream 700W Case CoolerMaster HAF 912 Advanced Cooling CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus Hard Drives OCZ Agility3 240 GB, WD5001AALS, WD7501AALS |
03-07-2011
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#6 | | |
I think I read somewhere (Anandtech?) that the graphics portion of the CPU is isolated - that if the graphics portion of the CPU were simply removed somehow, the CPU would operate normally.
Either way, I believe that you wouldn't be able to use a discrete graphics solution with an H67 anyway. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 |
03-07-2011
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#7 | | DEsk1 7 Home pre / Desk2 7 Home pre / Laptop 7 Pro |
So appreciated Thanks to all of you folks I was a little apprehensive asking that because of some of the responses I've had elsewhere that make one feel as if you shold crawl into a hole an sta there.
Although I used to exeriment / build in the days of discreet vacuum tubes and trannies the new tech stuff is a bit out of my depth at times, so I really do appreciate the replies here. it cetainly is pleasantto know thee ae still some understanding people in the world.
I don't remember how I found this site but thank heavens I did!!
Once again thnks to you all. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Prebuilt Desk1 / Toshiba L550 / Desk2 New build OS DEsk1 7 Home pre / Desk2 7 Home pre / Laptop 7 Pro CPU Desk1 AMD Athlon 245 / Laptop i5 430m / Desk2 i5 2500 Motherboard Desk1 Gigabyte MA78LMT / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ? Memory Desk1 4Gb / Desk2 12GB / Laptop 4Gb Graphics Card Integrated Desk1 & Laptop / Desktop2 plus Radeon HD5450 Sound Card Realtek High Def audio Laptop Monitor(s) Displays DEsk1 21.5 Acer / Desk2 Benq 2440 24" / Laptop 17.5" Keyboard MS wireless desktop1 & 2 - M$ 1000 Mouse MS 1000 wireless both Desktops - laptop - Logitec wireless PSU Desk1 generic / Laptop ? Toshiba / Desk2 Corsair HX 650 Case Desk 1 Gigabyte GZ-M2 ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster Cooling Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - 5 Laptop ? Hard Drives Desk1 Samsung HD502HJ ATA desktop
Toshiba MX-5055GSX
Desk2 Seagate (blue) Barracuda 1TB Internet Speed ADSL2+ Other Info 12 usb ports on desktop -Seagate 500Gb external - desktop 2 usb ports 1 eSATA/usb port / ethernet WD 320Gb - laptop
7 usb g hub on laptop 4 port usb hub on desktop
DVI vid connection to monitor - desktop. New build 14 USB (2x3.0)
Running Kaspersky 2011 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MP550 MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2 |
03-07-2011
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#8 | | DEsk1 7 Home pre / Desk2 7 Home pre / Laptop 7 Pro |
Intel boards I have just seen on Scotty Muellers forum that the S1155 board is going to be eplaced with an S1366 one later this year - anyone nkow of tis as I can't find any reference to it.
Last edited by ICit2lol; 03-07-2011 at 07:12 PM..
Reason: spelling
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Prebuilt Desk1 / Toshiba L550 / Desk2 New build OS DEsk1 7 Home pre / Desk2 7 Home pre / Laptop 7 Pro CPU Desk1 AMD Athlon 245 / Laptop i5 430m / Desk2 i5 2500 Motherboard Desk1 Gigabyte MA78LMT / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ? Memory Desk1 4Gb / Desk2 12GB / Laptop 4Gb Graphics Card Integrated Desk1 & Laptop / Desktop2 plus Radeon HD5450 Sound Card Realtek High Def audio Laptop Monitor(s) Displays DEsk1 21.5 Acer / Desk2 Benq 2440 24" / Laptop 17.5" Keyboard MS wireless desktop1 & 2 - M$ 1000 Mouse MS 1000 wireless both Desktops - laptop - Logitec wireless PSU Desk1 generic / Laptop ? Toshiba / Desk2 Corsair HX 650 Case Desk 1 Gigabyte GZ-M2 ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster Cooling Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - 5 Laptop ? Hard Drives Desk1 Samsung HD502HJ ATA desktop
Toshiba MX-5055GSX
Desk2 Seagate (blue) Barracuda 1TB Internet Speed ADSL2+ Other Info 12 usb ports on desktop -Seagate 500Gb external - desktop 2 usb ports 1 eSATA/usb port / ethernet WD 320Gb - laptop
7 usb g hub on laptop 4 port usb hub on desktop
DVI vid connection to monitor - desktop. New build 14 USB (2x3.0)
Running Kaspersky 2011 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MP550 MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2 |
03-07-2011
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#9 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
I think 1366 is kind of a dead end.
Next code name is "Ivy Bridge", which I think will be both 1155 and 2011 sockets. Due in the second half of this year. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
03-07-2011
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#10 | | DEsk1 7 Home pre / Desk2 7 Home pre / Laptop 7 Pro |
Thanks Thanks ignatzatsonic I wonder wee they got this from a most of the refs I've seen for 1366 are that it is dead and buried so to speak.
Strange that it came from someonelike Scott who I thought was abit of a guru when it came to this stuff.
Anyway I'm going with what you are using both for easy set up and price.
By the by any preference on the maker as i was going Asus after seeing the Neweg vids? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Prebuilt Desk1 / Toshiba L550 / Desk2 New build OS DEsk1 7 Home pre / Desk2 7 Home pre / Laptop 7 Pro CPU Desk1 AMD Athlon 245 / Laptop i5 430m / Desk2 i5 2500 Motherboard Desk1 Gigabyte MA78LMT / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ? Memory Desk1 4Gb / Desk2 12GB / Laptop 4Gb Graphics Card Integrated Desk1 & Laptop / Desktop2 plus Radeon HD5450 Sound Card Realtek High Def audio Laptop Monitor(s) Displays DEsk1 21.5 Acer / Desk2 Benq 2440 24" / Laptop 17.5" Keyboard MS wireless desktop1 & 2 - M$ 1000 Mouse MS 1000 wireless both Desktops - laptop - Logitec wireless PSU Desk1 generic / Laptop ? Toshiba / Desk2 Corsair HX 650 Case Desk 1 Gigabyte GZ-M2 ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster Cooling Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - 5 Laptop ? Hard Drives Desk1 Samsung HD502HJ ATA desktop
Toshiba MX-5055GSX
Desk2 Seagate (blue) Barracuda 1TB Internet Speed ADSL2+ Other Info 12 usb ports on desktop -Seagate 500Gb external - desktop 2 usb ports 1 eSATA/usb port / ethernet WD 320Gb - laptop
7 usb g hub on laptop 4 port usb hub on desktop
DVI vid connection to monitor - desktop. New build 14 USB (2x3.0)
Running Kaspersky 2011 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MP550 MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2 GPU and SB boards problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:38 AM. |  |