| Windows 7: Computer recognizes 8GB of ram, but only uses 30% of it? |
19 Mar 2011
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#11 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Manchester UK |
some apps eg After Effects, Prem Pro, Cinema 4D will eat all the RAM you can throw at them.
snip here taken during a C4D render | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number self build OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel i7-2600k o/c to 4.6GHz Motherboard MSI Z68-GD80 Memory 8GB Mushkin 1866MHz Graphics Card Radeon HD5770 Sound Card integrated Monitor(s) Displays Liyama ProLite 27" Screen Resolution 1920*1080 px PSU Coolermaster GX 750W Case Antec 300 case + 6 fans Hard Drives Seagate 2TB Internet Speed 58Mbit down 15Mbit up Other Info Blackgold BGT3650 Quad HD TV card |
21 Mar 2011
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#12 | | W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi Hafnarfjörður IS |
Hi there
Thse applications tend to "Bypass" the normal OS -- usually to avoid any overhead in using OS processes. They also interact directly with the main hardware too.
These are very specialized applications. However things like MS office and 90% of what most people tend to run on their machines with the exception of Virtual Machines the REAL RAM will be managed by the OS and you probably won't see it taking too much of it at all unless running LOADS of concurrent applications.
This is why even a 2GB RAM machine is often more than sufficient for the vast majority of "Normal" computer users.
Cheers
jimbo | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built OS W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi CPU Q9400 QUAD Motherboard P5QL-CM Memory 8GB Graphics Card On Motherborad Sound Card Realtek HD audio Monitor(s) Displays Apple Cinema display Mouse Toshiba wireless laser Hard Drives 4 X 1TB SATA Internet Speed > 20MB up |
21 Mar 2011
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#13 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by GeneO A lot of photoshop operations write to its scratch disk no matter how much memory you have. For instance, if you convert a layer to a smart object it will write hundreds of MB to its scratch disk. Unless you have your scratch disk on an SSD with very fast writes, this takes 5 seconds, you can sit there and watch it! So I suspect something like that is happening. You can monitor the scratch disk for activity to see if the is the culprit.
Another example. I can write full speed to my scratch disk at about 100 MB/s. I have photoshop configured to use up to 5 of my 8 GB of memory. I just opened up a 10MP RAW image in PS CS5. That wrote about 100 MB to my scratch disk for about 1 second. I duplicated the layer. Another 100MB and 1 second to complete. I then smart sharpened the image. The scratch space jumped up 370 MB more or about 4 seconds to do the sharpening because of this. I am sure the sharpening itself takes no time, it is the writing to disk that does.
It is a real disappointment.
If I had the extra cash right now, I would get one of the new Intel 510 SSD explicitly for use as cache for Photoshop scratch, ACR and Bridge Cache, and Browser Cache. Maybe I would make it my system disk. But you need something that can do much better than HDD write speeds (>> 100MB/s) to see the difference. Many SSDs do not have write speeds that are any better than Hard disk drives. the Intel 510 claim to.
I should add how this relates to memory (I was addressing your "lag" above). I think Photoshop decides something is too big for RAM and writes it to its scratch disk - using les memory in the process/ | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built (GeneO industries)/Model 3 OS Windows 7 64 bit SP1 CPU i5 2500k @ 4.5 GHz, 1.264V 124 GFlop (IBT with AVX) Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB (4GBx4) 1600MHz G.skill Ripjaws X 8-8-8-24 Graphics Card MSI GTX 660 Ti PE/OC, 2GB 7160 MHz DDR5 clock, 1228 Mhz Core Sound Card Onboard Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays NEC Spectraview 2490WUXi-SV Screen Resolution 1920 x 1200 Keyboard HP Wireless Mouse HP wireless PSU Seasonic X-850 (2012 KM3 model) Case Fractal Design "Define R3" Cooling CM TPC 812 push/pull, 3 120mm, 2 TY-140 case fans Hard Drives Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (System), Crucial 128GB M4 SSD, 2x WD Caviar 1TB Black internal (data), 1x WD Blue 6Gb/s 1TB Internal, 1x 2TB eSata WD20EARS Green, 2x 500GB Seagate external USB, 1x 350GB exte Internet Speed 27.8 Mb/s down, 5.6 Mb/s up Other Info USB 3.0 x4 , SATA III x4, eSATA x3, SATA II x4, USB 2.0 x8. 2 Samsung DVD R/W drives.
WEI: CPU 7.7, Memory 7.8, Graphics 7.9, Disk 7.9 |
21 Mar 2011
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#14 | | Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2 Westlake, Ohio |
I'd have a look at this just to make sure nothing is amiss: Memory - Set Maximum Amount Used by Windows 7 | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self OS Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2 CPU Main - Core i7 2600K; 2nd - Core i7 920 Motherboard Main - Asus P8Z68-V Pro/Gen3; 2nd - Gigabyte GA-EX58-UDR3 Memory Main - 16GB Corsair Vengeance; 2nd - 12GB Corsair Vengeance Graphics Card Main - XFX Radeon 6870 1GB; 2nd - XFX Radeon 4870 1GB Sound Card Both: Onboard Realtek Azalia Monitor(s) Displays Main - Hann 25" + I-INC 25" + Acer 23"; 2nd - Upgrading Soon Screen Resolution Main - 1920x1080 (All Three Monitors); 2nd - Upgrading Soon Keyboard Main - Razer Reclusa; 2nd - Old MS Keyboard Mouse Main - Logitech MX Revolution; 2nd - Old MS Mouse PSU Main - OCZ 600W Modular; 2nd - OCZ 600W Case Main - Thermaltake Element G; 2nd - NZXT something or other Cooling Main - Corsair H80; 2nd - Prolimatech Megahalems Hard Drives Main - (1) Crucial M4 128GB (Boot)
Main - (1) Seagate 2TB 64MB Cache (Data)
Main - (1) Seagate 2TB 64MB Cache (Data Backup)
2nd - (1) Intel X25-M SSD 80GB (Boot)
2nd - (3) Seagate 1TB 32MB Cache (Data Backup)
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