| Windows 7: Just looking before I leap...new PC final thoughts. |
01 Apr 2011
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#1 | | Windows 7 64-bit Michigan - USA |
Just looking before I leap...new PC final thoughts. I've ordered the monitor (NEC EA232WMi) which is scheduled to arrive today & think I have selected a good case, MB, RAM, power supply & CPU. I thought I'd ask those with more experience for their commits as I've never built a PC before. · Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz · Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3-B3 · Corsair 8Gb (2x4Gb) 240-Pin DDR3 1600 Cas Latency:8 · Antec Sonata Elite Black Case · Antec TruePower Supply TP-650 650W The HDDs & Graphic card are carried over from the old PC. I don't know if I need overclock hardware but at least I could if I wanted to. As for RAM, I'm not sure what Cas Latency:8 means. I did want only 2 for now so I could expand to 16GB later if needed. Antec Sonata Elite case is said to be quieter than most cases. Please post your thoughts; especially dos & don'ts. | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built 2011 OS Windows 7 64-bit CPU Intel Core i5-2500K 3300 Mhz Motherboard Gigabyte P67A-UD3-B3 Memory 16Gb Patriot PC3-12800 1600 Mhz Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) & ATi Radeon HD5670 Sound Card On Motherboard Monitor(s) Displays Dell U2412M & NEC EA232WMi Screen Resolution DELL 1920x1200 - NEC 1920x1080 Keyboard Apple Mouse Microsoft PSU Seasonic M1211-620 Bronze Case Antec Solo Cooling Tuniq Tower 120 Extreme Rev 1 Hard Drives Crucial 128 Gb SSD
Hitachi Deskstar 2Tb 7200 RPM 32MB Cache
Seagate Barracuda 500Gb 7200 RPM
Hitachi GST Deskstar 1.5TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache Internet Speed 5mbs Other Info Sunbeam PL-RS-3 Rheosmart 3 Fan Controller 3.5" Bay 3 Channel 30W Fan Controller Panel |
01 Apr 2011
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#2 | | win7 Ult 64 Northern California |
Hi GARoss
Here is one of the best discriptions for Cas latency: Column Address Strobe (CAS) latency, or CL, is the delay time between the moment a memory controller tells the memory module to access a particular memory column on a RAM memory module, and the moment the data from given array location is available on the module's output pins. In general, the lower the CAS latency, the better.
As for the RAM you might just take a look at the G-Skill RipJawsX RAM; these sticks were developed primarily for the Sandy Bridge. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number My Build OS win7 Ult 64 CPU i7 3930K & 3960X Motherboard ASUS P9X79 Deluxe Memory 16GB G-Skill 2133MHz Graphics Card Sapphire HD 7970 Sound Card On-board Monitor(s) Displays ASUS 27 inch Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard Mionix Mouse Mionix PSU Corsair AX1200 Case NZXT 810 Cooling Custom Loop, Swiftech HDBlock Hard Drives Crucial M4 256GB, 1.5TB WD Black for Data/Images Internet Speed Cable |
01 Apr 2011
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#3 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit SP1 Gallifrey |
Looks like you have a pretty good system in the works! The only issue would be the old hard drive. It will be the weakest link.
A SSD would work great with a system like this, but of course it will cost you. Depending on what you do with your machine 8 GB is a bit extreme, perhaps cut it down to 4 GB and use the money towards a SSD? | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit SP1 CPU Intel i7 3770k Motherboard Asus P8Z77-V LK Memory 8 GB Patriot G2 1600MHz DDR3 Graphics Card Sapphire Radeon 7870 Sound Card None Monitor(s) Displays Gateway FHX2402L Screen Resolution 1920 X 1080 Keyboard Logitech K800 Mouse Logitech T620 PSU Corsair 750 TX Case Cooler Master Cooling Stock fan Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 4 256 GB Internet Speed 15.20 Mb/s download 2.09 Mb/s upload (Speedtest.net) Other Info First Computer used: A Commodore Pet of course
Love using LinuxMint 14 Cinnamon and Windows 7 |
01 Apr 2011
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#4 | | Windows 7 64-bit Michigan - USA |

Quote: Originally Posted by Kipper Hi GARoss
Here is one of the best discriptions for Cas latency: Column Address Strobe (CAS) latency, or CL, is the delay time between the moment a memory controller tells the memory module to access a particular memory column on a RAM memory module, and the moment the data from given array location is available on the module's output pins. In general, the lower the CAS latency, the better.
As for the RAM you might just take a look at the G-Skill RipJawsX RAM; these sticks were developed primarily for the Sandy Bridge. Thanks Kipper,
Corsair is described as "Only qualified 1.5V XMP RAM on Intel Core i3/i5/i7", whatever that means. G-Skill RipJawsX RAM says "Designed for Intel P67 motherboard". G-Skill it is.
Updated: · Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz · Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3-B3 · G-Skill RipJawsX 8Gb (2x4Gb) 240-Pin DDR3 1600 Cas Latency:8 · Antec Sonata Elite Black Case · Antec TruePower Supply TP-650 650W | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built 2011 OS Windows 7 64-bit CPU Intel Core i5-2500K 3300 Mhz Motherboard Gigabyte P67A-UD3-B3 Memory 16Gb Patriot PC3-12800 1600 Mhz Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) & ATi Radeon HD5670 Sound Card On Motherboard Monitor(s) Displays Dell U2412M & NEC EA232WMi Screen Resolution DELL 1920x1200 - NEC 1920x1080 Keyboard Apple Mouse Microsoft PSU Seasonic M1211-620 Bronze Case Antec Solo Cooling Tuniq Tower 120 Extreme Rev 1 Hard Drives Crucial 128 Gb SSD
Hitachi Deskstar 2Tb 7200 RPM 32MB Cache
Seagate Barracuda 500Gb 7200 RPM
Hitachi GST Deskstar 1.5TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache Internet Speed 5mbs Other Info Sunbeam PL-RS-3 Rheosmart 3 Fan Controller 3.5" Bay 3 Channel 30W Fan Controller Panel |
01 Apr 2011
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#5 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
I recently built an i-2500 with the H67A Gigabyte board that is a first cousin to yours.
The Gigabyte BIOS will probably ask you if you want to use AHCI controllers early in the installation. Opinions are mixed on it, but most say to choose AHCI. I did and have no issues.
I'd advise you to avoid all the Gigabyte software on the supplied disc. It's mostly for overclocking and said to be buggy.
Get all of the latest drivers from Gigabyte website direct. They are likely newer than on any disc you will get with the board.
Install the Intel Chipset INF file immediately after Windows and before any other drivers.
Your setup will be pretty easy on power, depending on your graphics card. I use only 80 watts at idle and 165 at full load. I don't use a graphics card at all.
Not sure what the standard fan setup is on the Sonata case. You might end up replacing some fans? Did you reject the Antec Solo for any particular reason? It's the quietest Antec case out there.
You may or may not be satisfied with the standard Intel cooler. It's fine for stock clocks or mild overclocking. It has a particular high pitched noise that might bother you. I just ordered a Scythe Big Shuriken heatsink to replace it and will swap when I get my replacement motherboard (due to the chipset recall issue) in a week or two. The Shuriken has a big slow fan that is effectively inaudible.
You probably won't notice the speed advantage of the new system under most circumstances if your prior PC is only a few years old.
Unless you have an unusual situation, you may not use more than 4 GB of RAM. I considered 8, but chose 4 and don't regret it. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
01 Apr 2011
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#6 | | Windows 7 64-bit Michigan - USA |

Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic I recently built an i-2500 with the H67A Gigabyte board that is a first cousin to yours.
The Gigabyte BIOS will probably ask you if you want to use AHCI controllers early in the installation. Opinions are mixed on it, but most say to choose AHCI. I did and have no issues.
I'd advise you to avoid all the Gigabyte software on the supplied disc. It's mostly for overclocking and said to be buggy.
Get all of the latest drivers from Gigabyte website direct. They are likely newer than on any disc you will get with the board.
Install the Intel Chipset INF file immediately after Windows and before any other drivers.
Your setup will be pretty easy on power, depending on your graphics card. I use only 80 watts at idle and 165 at full load. I don't use a graphics card at all.
Not sure what the standard fan setup is on the Sonata case. You might end up replacing some fans? Did you reject the Antec Solo for any particular reason? It's the quietest Antec case out there.
You may or may not be satisfied with the standard Intel cooler. It's fine for stock clocks or mild overclocking. It has a particular high pitched noise that might bother you. I just ordered a Scythe Big Shuriken heatsink to replace it and will swap when I get my replacement motherboard (due to the chipset recall issue) in a week or two. The Shuriken has a big slow fan that is effectively inaudible.
You probably won't notice the speed advantage of the new system under most circumstances if your prior PC is only a few years old.
Unless you have an unusual situation, you may not use more than 4 GB of RAM. I considered 8, but chose 4 and don't regret it. My system specs are similar to your old PC. CPU 2.4 Ghz Intel Core2 Motherboard Intel DG965RY Memory 4Gb
I could go with the Intel i5-2500 instaed of the "K" & save $20.
I though 8Gb of RAM @ $100-130 wasn't bad & I do video editing which could us it.
I have an ATI-GIGABYTE GV-R567OC-1GI graphic card.
I do want quiet & Antec specs both as quiet http://www.antec.com/Believe_it/product.php?id=MTk= with Solo as better. I'll check out the Solo & Scythe Big Shuriken. I like quiet PCs. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built 2011 OS Windows 7 64-bit CPU Intel Core i5-2500K 3300 Mhz Motherboard Gigabyte P67A-UD3-B3 Memory 16Gb Patriot PC3-12800 1600 Mhz Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) & ATi Radeon HD5670 Sound Card On Motherboard Monitor(s) Displays Dell U2412M & NEC EA232WMi Screen Resolution DELL 1920x1200 - NEC 1920x1080 Keyboard Apple Mouse Microsoft PSU Seasonic M1211-620 Bronze Case Antec Solo Cooling Tuniq Tower 120 Extreme Rev 1 Hard Drives Crucial 128 Gb SSD
Hitachi Deskstar 2Tb 7200 RPM 32MB Cache
Seagate Barracuda 500Gb 7200 RPM
Hitachi GST Deskstar 1.5TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache Internet Speed 5mbs Other Info Sunbeam PL-RS-3 Rheosmart 3 Fan Controller 3.5" Bay 3 Channel 30W Fan Controller Panel |
01 Apr 2011
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#7 | | Several, including Windows 7 x64 Ultimate |

Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic
I'd advise you to avoid all the Gigabyte software on the supplied disc. It's mostly for overclocking and said to be buggy.
Agreed most emphatically! That stuff will cause you problems. Don't even try it!
If you do a lot of video etc. go for the 8GB.
The "silent pipe" is pretty good; http://vietnam.test.giga-byte.com/Fi...silentpipe.htm
Regards....Mike Connor | My System Specs | | OS Several, including Windows 7 x64 Ultimate |
01 Apr 2011
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#8 | | Windows 7 64-bit Michigan - USA |

Quote: Originally Posted by Commodore Pet Looks like you have a pretty good system in the works! The only issue would be the old hard drive. It will be the weakest link.
A SSD would work great with a system like this, but of course it will cost you. Depending on what you do with your machine 8 GB is a bit extreme, perhaps cut it down to 4 GB and use the money towards a SSD? Hey! I owned an Amiga computer!
I asked lots of questions, PC refresh possible?, about transfering Win 7 to a new MB, etc. If this could be done without needing the old C: I'll take a look but SSDs are lots of $$$ for the GB. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built 2011 OS Windows 7 64-bit CPU Intel Core i5-2500K 3300 Mhz Motherboard Gigabyte P67A-UD3-B3 Memory 16Gb Patriot PC3-12800 1600 Mhz Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) & ATi Radeon HD5670 Sound Card On Motherboard Monitor(s) Displays Dell U2412M & NEC EA232WMi Screen Resolution DELL 1920x1200 - NEC 1920x1080 Keyboard Apple Mouse Microsoft PSU Seasonic M1211-620 Bronze Case Antec Solo Cooling Tuniq Tower 120 Extreme Rev 1 Hard Drives Crucial 128 Gb SSD
Hitachi Deskstar 2Tb 7200 RPM 32MB Cache
Seagate Barracuda 500Gb 7200 RPM
Hitachi GST Deskstar 1.5TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache Internet Speed 5mbs Other Info Sunbeam PL-RS-3 Rheosmart 3 Fan Controller 3.5" Bay 3 Channel 30W Fan Controller Panel |
01 Apr 2011
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#9 | | Windows 7 64-bit Michigan - USA |

Quote: Originally Posted by Mike Connor 
Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic
I'd advise you to avoid all the Gigabyte software on the supplied disc. It's mostly for overclocking and said to be buggy. Agreed most emphatically! That stuff will cause you problems. Don't even try it!
If you do a lot of video etc. go for the 8GB.
The "silent pipe" is pretty good; --- GIGABYTE --- Silent-Pipe II web ---
Regards....Mike Connor OK. No need to OC anyway! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built 2011 OS Windows 7 64-bit CPU Intel Core i5-2500K 3300 Mhz Motherboard Gigabyte P67A-UD3-B3 Memory 16Gb Patriot PC3-12800 1600 Mhz Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) & ATi Radeon HD5670 Sound Card On Motherboard Monitor(s) Displays Dell U2412M & NEC EA232WMi Screen Resolution DELL 1920x1200 - NEC 1920x1080 Keyboard Apple Mouse Microsoft PSU Seasonic M1211-620 Bronze Case Antec Solo Cooling Tuniq Tower 120 Extreme Rev 1 Hard Drives Crucial 128 Gb SSD
Hitachi Deskstar 2Tb 7200 RPM 32MB Cache
Seagate Barracuda 500Gb 7200 RPM
Hitachi GST Deskstar 1.5TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache Internet Speed 5mbs Other Info Sunbeam PL-RS-3 Rheosmart 3 Fan Controller 3.5" Bay 3 Channel 30W Fan Controller Panel |
01 Apr 2011
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#10 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by GARoss
OK. No need to OC anyway! If you get a K CPU and a K board, you can still overclock your brains out---you just would do it directly through the BIOS rather than through the Gigabyte software.
New Egg price on the Solo is 110 shipped. The Sonata is 105 shipped. I'd go Solo no question unless there is a particular feature on the Sonata you just have to have.
I assume the Sonata is sold without a PSU. I know the Solo has no PSU. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load Just looking before I leap...new PC final thoughts. problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:31 AM. | |