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Windows 7: CPU temperatures problems

24 Apr 2011   #21

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 32 bit
 
 

Hi guys !

Woah all u posted seems pretty complex and hard..

Haha..

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by stormy13 View Post

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I noticed the problems after installing both the GPU and PSU
With how little room there is, good possibility. I assume this is the PSU you got,

Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power RS600-PCARE3-US 600W ATX12V V2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Power Supply

If not it doesn't matter much as they will all be basically the same with regards to the fan in them. When you put it in the case did you put it in with the fan facing down, or facing up into the top of the case? Ideally it should be facing down to help with pulling warm air out. Looking at the service manual for it it should be facing down as ATX power supplies normal only mount one way (the 4 mounting holes are the same on all ATX cases and power supplies).

If it is facing down there is also the small problem of where it is in relation to the video card, which due to the case has its fan facing up where in a normal case it is facing the down. This will case the two fans (PSU and video card) to fight each other, as the fan on the video card is pulling air in from the same small space that the PSU fan is. Unfortunately unless someone else has a better idea, if that is what is happening the only way I can really see to fix it is another case.
It seems what you said is true !! my PSU is pulling out hot air to the GPU and the GPU is pulling in that hot air !

Also.. looks like i can put a case cooler next to the CPU so it can pull in some cool air ! (the case have those small holes where u can put in coolers :P ), i will also change the thermal paste and clean the heatsink when i contact any technician

Maybe this screenie can show you what im talking about:



The arrows show where is the air being pulled to, also look where my CPU is located, there is the case holes im talking about, where i can put the Fan cooler that can pull in some cool air directly to the CPU.

Well, about the PSU and GPU air cooling problems.. Is there any way to fix this ? or to stop the conflict between them ?

BTW yeah, a blue LED cooler would look awesome..

Thanks for your replies people !

Juan.


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24 Apr 2011   #22
Microsoft MVP

Win 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bill1821 View Post
It also looks like a btx form factor- and prior case suggestions wont fit.
It may look like BTX, but it isn't. It is just a regular micro ATX board mounted upside, and yes it will fit in a normal ATX case. HP just has this thing for using reverse cases.

As for cutting a hole in the front, this is the best I can find for what it looks like behind the front panel (from the service manual),

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As for cutting a hole in the front you would need,

1. A Dremel or some other cutting tool to cut the hole

2. A drill for drilling mounting holes for the fan

3. Remove the floppy drive or figure out some other place to put the hard drive after cutting a hole

4. Take everything out of the case as motherboards and what not don't react well to metal filings in them

Putting a fan over the CPU won't help much. A better heatsink would be more beneficial than a fan over top of what is there.


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24 Apr 2011   #23

XP, Vista, W7 64bit Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Chronox View Post
Hi people !

First of all im sorry if this is posted in a wrong section...

Well right now im gettin problems with my CPU temperatures..

They rise to 70-75 Celsius when playing games, and 50-60 while in Stand-By.

Here are my system Specs:

AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+
MCP61PM-HM (Nettle3)
3GB DDR2 RAM
ECS Nvidia GeForce 9800 GT Green Edition 1GB DDR3
Integrated Realtek ALC888S Audio
500 GB SATA 7200 rpm
CoolerMaster eXtreme Power Plus 600W

This is my PC before i bought the GPU and PSU :P
HP Pavilion a6532f Desktop PC Product Specifications HP Pavilion a6532f Desktop PC - HP Customer Care (United States - English)

My pc is about 3 years old now and i need to know if i should go to the technician :P

Thx for your help !
I think its your gpu is causing the overheating, as well as only 1 fan - you can download MSI afterburner or Rivatuner, and manually adjust the fan speed, and even make profiles ie. a new idle profile and a gaming profile with different fan speeds, also you can make profiles for individual games if your fussy. Easist way is to adjust the fan speed manually by turning it up too high to start and then monitor the games temps and then back it off - and then save the profile or remember the speeds per game. Be careful as its better to be safe than sorry.

Another point to consider - does the gpu blow the hot air out the rear of your case as with a dual slot gpu, or a single slot gpu with a fan that blows the heat into the case . Once you install the say MSI afterburner you will be able to see how hot it is at idle etc - note if your gpu is filling the case with hot air you may need a fan controller for the rear fan, also if that isnt enough a new fan on the side or even a new case.

You can find the programs at this site and if you need extra help join the forums there as they will only be too glad to help you out.

Guru of 3D: PC Hardware Reviews and tests

I didnt get time to read all the posts so if this is a repeat just disregard - cheers and good luck.
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24 Apr 2011   #24
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

Some of the well known named brands are simply packing too much into too small a case with inadequate cooling. An Acer PC I own simply has no room for an additional fan.
If you need to buy a new case or cut holes in the existing case to keep the temperature down, then new buyers beware.
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25 Apr 2011   #25

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

That case is horrible. You have no room for more fans. Installing a program to run that one fan is a waste of time. The temps you are running that that one little fan is probably already at 100%
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25 Apr 2011   #26

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 32 bit
 
 

Indeed, its always 100% cant set it to lower Rpm, i think i will change the thermal paste and try to buy a new pc next year or something, or at least change the case

@stormy13

>.< looks very difficult, and i dont think i have the tools for doing that, maybe i turn on my air conditioner while gaming, since it lowers CPU temperature like -5 celcius.

Thx for all your replies people

Juan.
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25 Apr 2011   #27

Window's 7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

Best pic of the mounted hard drive and front fan I could get at this time i have video but is to big and not allowed for attachment.


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25 Apr 2011   #28

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 32 bit
 
 

Wow looks good, how does it look from outside with everything on its place ?

My mom just saw this and doesnt want the PC to look ugly lol

Anyway next week im gettin paid so i might go to a technician and do some maintenance, it has been 3 years lol..

Thx for your pic !

Juan
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26 Apr 2011   #29

 
 

given the cost of a tech it may be better to get a new case, it is after all the only thing causing you problems.

case modding is your next solution but a new case would pretty much fix your problem, a new cpu heatsink and fan wouldn't hurt either

new case and cpu fan and heatsink > cost of techy...dunno but find out which is cheaper before doing anything.
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26 Apr 2011   #30

Window's 7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

I agree with the new case idea they re cheap and you will have better cooling, when I did that case and the other case that is in the family, I had to rewire the switch in the front because I upgraded there motherboard and put a reset switch in the front along with mounting extra fans, but it did bring the case temp down quite a lot. The one case had an Gforce 8800 xt video card in it that made thing inside the case even hotter ran at 70+c at idle, and finally blew a cap.
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