| Windows 7: 3.25G usable out of 4G RAM win7 64-bit |
21 May 2011
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| | Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 15 posts |
3.25G usable out of 4G RAM win7 64-bit i am running windows 7 Home premium 64-bit and recently upgraded my RAM from 3GB to 4GB. Windows 7 reports only 3.25 being usable. - i have a dedicated video card an my onboard one is definitely disabled.
- my BIOS reports 4096MB RAM detected.
- max memory and CPU are unchecked in msconfig.
from looking at the resource monitor i see that 770MB of RAM is labeled as hardware reserved memory.
also i don't know if my BIOS supports a memory remap feature or not but even if it does its a locked HP BIOS so most setting are inaccessible.
is there any way to get my full memory? or does anyone know why this is happening on a 64-bit os?
Thanks in Advance. | My System Specs |
| OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit CPU AMD Athlon X2 3800+ Dual Core @ 2.00 GHz Toledo Motherboard ASUS A8R32-MVP Deluxe Memory 4x1GB Dual Channel DDR PC3200 Graphics Card Gigabyte GV R435OC-512I Radeon HD 4350 Sound Card Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays HP vs17 LCD VIZIO 32" LCD HDTV Screen Resolution 1280x1024+1920x1080 PSU 550W Hard Drives Hitachi Deskstar 250GB
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM
Seagate 3TB External Drive |
21 May 2011
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| | Win 7 Ultimate x64 6,700 posts Etobicoke, Ontario |
F0ICE, welcome to the Seven Forums. Quote: i don't know if my BIOS supports a memory remap feature or not but even if it does its a locked HP BIOS so most setting are inaccessible. While the re-map is definitely needed (on newer boards it is enabled by default and the option may not be available), no idea if that is one that HP would hide or not if available. Another thing to consider is if the motherboard/chipset itself supports more than 4 GB. This should help explain what I mean by that, The system memory that is reported in the System Information dialog box in Windows Vista is less than you expect if 4 GB of RAM is installed Quote: Note When the physical RAM that is installed on a computer equals the address space that is supported by the chipset, the total system memory that is available to the operating system is always less than the physical RAM that is installed. For example, consider a computer that has an Intel 975X chipset that supports 8 GB of address space. If you install 8 GB of RAM, the system memory that is available to the operating system will be reduced by the PCI configuration requirements. In this scenario, PCI configuration requirements reduce the memory that is available to the operating system by an amount that is between approximately 200 MB and approximately 1 GB. The reduction depends on the configuration. Just change the mentioned 8 GB to 4 GB if your motherboard is one that only supports up to 4 GB, and the same applies. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Me OS Win 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Phenom II x4 955 @ 4 GHz. Motherboard Asus M5A97 EVO Memory 2x2 GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600 Graphics Card Sapphire HD 6850 Sound Card Xonar DGX w/ Logitech X-530 Monitor(s) Displays Acer S232HL Abid Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech Wave Mouse Logitech G5 v2 PSU Antec Earthwatts 650W Green Case Antec Three Hundred Cooling Cooler Master 212 EVO Hard Drives 120 GB OCZ Vertex 3
500 GB Seagate 7200.12 Internet Speed 24000/1000 |
21 May 2011
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| | Windows 7 home premium x64 637 posts |
Any 32 bit os can only map 4Gb of memory im total, so that includes motherboard and even hard drive requirements, but more importantly the memory on your graphics card, so if you have a 512Mb card Windows 32 bit will map that out of the total 'seen' memory of 4gb immediately leaving you with only 3.5 Gb avialable. Add up all the other mapped requirements and 3.25Gig is just about average. Which is more than enough for any application thusfore built (even 64 bit actually, but that's a whole other question). | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY OS Windows 7 home premium x64 CPU AMD FX-4100 AM3+ 3.6GHz 12MB Black Edition Motherboard Asus M5A97 Pro Memory Crsair vengeance 12Gb DDR3 1600MHz CL9 Graphics Card Asus GTX 560 1GB Sound Card Realtek onboard Monitor(s) Displays Hanns G 1680x1050 native PSU OCZ StealthXstream II 500W Hard Drives OCZ 128Gb Petrol ssd
2x500 Gb Samsung Internet Speed 8Mb or better |
21 May 2011
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| | Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 15 posts |
Quote: Note When the physical RAM that is installed on a computer equals the address space that is supported by the chipset, the total system memory that is available to the operating system is always less than the physical RAM that is installed. For example, consider a computer that has an Intel 975X chipset that supports 8 GB of address space. If you install 8 GB of RAM, the system memory that is available to the operating system will be reduced by the PCI configuration requirements. In this scenario, PCI configuration requirements reduce the memory that is available to the operating system by an amount that is between approximately 200 MB and approximately 1 GB. The reduction depends on the configuration. so since i hit my motherboard's memory threshold it reserved the missing 0.75GB of ram for PCI devices. and the memory remapping feature that i either don't have or can't get to would bypass that allowing me full memory access. this would also explain why SIW reports so many memory address ranges assigned to the system board. am i right? either way i need to find a new motherboard if i want the rest of my memory.
thank you very much for explaining that. it helps to know why this is happening even though i can't fix it.
again thank you for your time. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit CPU AMD Athlon X2 3800+ Dual Core @ 2.00 GHz Toledo Motherboard ASUS A8R32-MVP Deluxe Memory 4x1GB Dual Channel DDR PC3200 Graphics Card Gigabyte GV R435OC-512I Radeon HD 4350 Sound Card Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays HP vs17 LCD VIZIO 32" LCD HDTV Screen Resolution 1280x1024+1920x1080 PSU 550W Hard Drives Hitachi Deskstar 250GB
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM
Seagate 3TB External Drive |
21 May 2011
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| | Windows 7 Pro x64 (1), Win7 Pro X64 / WinXP Pro x86 on (2) 1,499 posts |
What shows in your Task Manager>
Run TASKMGR -> Performance tab, push Resource Monitor button -> select Memory tab.
For example, on my 4GB 64-bit Windows 7 Pro system (ASUS P5Q3 board, P45 chipset, Intel Duo E8400 CPU, 2x2GB DDR3 memory, ATI HD4670 512MB GDDR3 video card:
Note that my ATI HD4670 512MB video card apparently does not take any memory from my 4GB physical memory, which is all available to Windows 7. RMB on Computer -> Properties shows my full 4GB installed, there is no second qualifying line showing "available... " (something less). And Resource Monitor also confirms that all 4GB is available for use by Windows 7 and programs.
I have a similar story on my other machine, with a 1GB ATI HD4850 card. Again, all 4GB is available. Nothing's been carved out for hardware use.
Last edited by dsperber; 21 May 2011 at 08:17 PM..
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home-built, two systems (1) and (2) OS Windows 7 Pro x64 (1), Win7 Pro X64 / WinXP Pro x86 on (2) CPU i5-3350p 3.1Ghz/6MB-cache (1); E8400 3.0Ghz/6MB-cache (2) Motherboard ASUS P8Z77-V Pro (1); ASUS P5Q3 (2) Memory 8GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (1); 4GB PC3-10600 DDR3 (2) Graphics Card ATI HD5770 dual-DVI (1), (see TV cards); ATI HD4850 (2) Sound Card Realtek ALC892 HD Audio (1); Realtek ALC1200 HD Audio (2) Monitor(s) Displays Eizo HD2441W LCD, Eizo S2433W (1); Eizo 24" S2433W (2) Screen Resolution 1920x1200, 1920x1200 (1); 1920x1200 (2) Keyboard IBM PS/2 (1) and (2) Mouse Logitech MX Revolution wireless (1); Microsoft wired (2) PSU Nesteq ECS-6001 600W (1); Nesteq ECS-5001 500W (2) Case Acousti-Case 360 (1) and (2) Cooling Noctua NH-U12P SE2 for CPU, 2x120mm case fans (1) and (2) Hard Drives (1) 1TB SATA-II (7200RPM), 2TB SATA-II (7200RPM), 2TB SATA-III (7200RPM), 250GB SATA-III (10000RPM) for OS;
(2) 320GB SATA-II (7200RPM), 750GB SATA-II (7200RPM), 150GB SATA-II (10000RPM) for OS Internet Speed 15mbps down / 2mbps up Other Info Ceton InfiniTV 4-tuner cablecard-enabled TV card as well as Hauppauge HVR-2250 OTA/ATSC 2-tuner TV card in (1), running under Win7 WMC |
21 May 2011
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| | Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 15 posts |
as you can see 770MB is marked as hardware reserved here is SIW's listing of memory ranges.
is it normal for that many system board instances? | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit CPU AMD Athlon X2 3800+ Dual Core @ 2.00 GHz Toledo Motherboard ASUS A8R32-MVP Deluxe Memory 4x1GB Dual Channel DDR PC3200 Graphics Card Gigabyte GV R435OC-512I Radeon HD 4350 Sound Card Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays HP vs17 LCD VIZIO 32" LCD HDTV Screen Resolution 1280x1024+1920x1080 PSU 550W Hard Drives Hitachi Deskstar 250GB
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM
Seagate 3TB External Drive |
21 May 2011
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| | Windows 7 Pro x64 (1), Win7 Pro X64 / WinXP Pro x86 on (2) 1,499 posts |

Quote: Originally Posted by F0ICE
as you can see 770MB is marked as hardware reserved I do indeed.
You haven't provided specifics on your hardware setup. Easiest way is to give us three screenshots from CPU-Z, of the CPU, MAINBOARD and GRAPHICS tabs. I'm guessing this is an HP Pavillion laptop, but I don't think you've provided model details.
Knowing the details of your motherboard, chipset, CPU and video hardware as presented by CPU-Z is very useful. But if 770MB is reserved for hardware use (specifically, the video hardware), seems to me that there is nothing that can be done other than change the fundamental hardware (i.e. upgrade to a new video card if possible, which seems unlikely on a laptop).
But let's reserve judgment until we see your hardware details. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home-built, two systems (1) and (2) OS Windows 7 Pro x64 (1), Win7 Pro X64 / WinXP Pro x86 on (2) CPU i5-3350p 3.1Ghz/6MB-cache (1); E8400 3.0Ghz/6MB-cache (2) Motherboard ASUS P8Z77-V Pro (1); ASUS P5Q3 (2) Memory 8GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (1); 4GB PC3-10600 DDR3 (2) Graphics Card ATI HD5770 dual-DVI (1), (see TV cards); ATI HD4850 (2) Sound Card Realtek ALC892 HD Audio (1); Realtek ALC1200 HD Audio (2) Monitor(s) Displays Eizo HD2441W LCD, Eizo S2433W (1); Eizo 24" S2433W (2) Screen Resolution 1920x1200, 1920x1200 (1); 1920x1200 (2) Keyboard IBM PS/2 (1) and (2) Mouse Logitech MX Revolution wireless (1); Microsoft wired (2) PSU Nesteq ECS-6001 600W (1); Nesteq ECS-5001 500W (2) Case Acousti-Case 360 (1) and (2) Cooling Noctua NH-U12P SE2 for CPU, 2x120mm case fans (1) and (2) Hard Drives (1) 1TB SATA-II (7200RPM), 2TB SATA-II (7200RPM), 2TB SATA-III (7200RPM), 250GB SATA-III (10000RPM) for OS;
(2) 320GB SATA-II (7200RPM), 750GB SATA-II (7200RPM), 150GB SATA-II (10000RPM) for OS Internet Speed 15mbps down / 2mbps up Other Info Ceton InfiniTV 4-tuner cablecard-enabled TV card as well as Hauppauge HVR-2250 OTA/ATSC 2-tuner TV card in (1), running under Win7 WMC |
21 May 2011
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| | Windows 7 64 bit SP1 1,465 posts |
If you cannot remap the memory, it looks like you are stuck. Your memory map is typical for this situation. Knowing the model of your computer will help us look up the chipset and motherboard fill in your system spec. But I expect there is nothing you can do. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built (GeneO industries)/Model 3 OS Windows 7 64 bit SP1 CPU i5 2500k @ 4.5 GHz, 1.264V 124 GFlop (IBT with AVX) Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB (4GBx4) 1600MHz G.skill Ripjaws X 8-8-8-24 Graphics Card MSI GTX 660 Ti PE/OC, 2GB 7160 MHz DDR5 clock, 1228 Mhz Core Sound Card Onboard Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays NEC Spectraview 2490WUXi-SV Screen Resolution 1920 x 1200 Keyboard HP Wireless Mouse HP wireless PSU Seasonic X-850 (2012 KM3 model) Case Fractal Design "Define R3" Cooling CM TPC 812 push/pull, 3 120mm, 2 TY-140 case fans Hard Drives Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (System), Crucial 128GB M4 SSD, 2x WD Caviar 1TB Black internal (data), 1x WD Blue 6Gb/s 1TB Internal, 1x 2TB eSata WD20EARS Green, 2x 500GB Seagate external USB, 1x 350GB exte Internet Speed 27.8 Mb/s down, 5.6 Mb/s up Other Info USB 3.0 x4 , SATA III x4, eSATA x3, SATA II x4, USB 2.0 x8. 2 Samsung DVD R/W drives.
WEI: CPU 7.7, Memory 7.8, Graphics 7.9, Disk 7.9 |
21 May 2011
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| | Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 15 posts |
nope not a laptop. hp pavilion a1250n
motherboard: ms-7184/Amethystm using radeon xpress 200 chipset
CPU: amd athlon x2 3800+ @ 2.0GHz Toledo Socket 939
GPU radeon hd 4350 from gigabyte 512M VRAM PCIE x16
memory  DR PC3200 4x1GB Dual Channel
thats all i can provide right now.
the motherboard and CPU are original to the PC. the motherboard does have an onboard video adapter which is disabled via BIOS.
i have to get back to you on CPUZ but i can say this right now, when i was using 3GB of RAM that hardware reserved memory reading was around 2MB.
i will post CPUZ details tomorrow. thanks for the help. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit CPU AMD Athlon X2 3800+ Dual Core @ 2.00 GHz Toledo Motherboard ASUS A8R32-MVP Deluxe Memory 4x1GB Dual Channel DDR PC3200 Graphics Card Gigabyte GV R435OC-512I Radeon HD 4350 Sound Card Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays HP vs17 LCD VIZIO 32" LCD HDTV Screen Resolution 1280x1024+1920x1080 PSU 550W Hard Drives Hitachi Deskstar 250GB
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM
Seagate 3TB External Drive |
21 May 2011
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| | Win 8 Release candidate 8400 2,141 posts |

Quote: Originally Posted by cyclic Any 32 bit os can only map 4Gb of memory im total, so that includes motherboard and even hard drive requirements, but more importantly the memory on your graphics card, so if you have a 512Mb card Windows 32 bit will map that out of the total 'seen' memory of 4gb immediately leaving you with only 3.5 Gb avialable. Add up all the other mapped requirements and 3.25Gig is just about average. Which is more than enough for any application thusfore built (even 64 bit actually, but that's a whole other question).
Um he is running 64 bit | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavillion dv-7 1005 Tx OS Win 8 Release candidate 8400 CPU 2@2.4 Memory 4 gigs Graphics Card Nvidia 9600M Sound Card HD built-in Monitor(s) Displays 17" Wxga Screen Resolution 1440x900 Cooling none Internet Speed 45Mb down 5Mb up 3.25G usable out of 4G RAM win7 64-bit problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:25 PM. | |