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Windows 7 - WEI - DDR2 vs DDR3 |
05-23-2011
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#1 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Windows XP SP3, Ubuntu 10.04 |
WEI - DDR2 vs DDR3 This might not be in the correct section.
After a series of disasters I have just upgraded(?) my system.
I haven't adjusted my system specs info yet (so you can still see my previous setup info).
My new system: - AMD AM3 x6 Phenom II 1055T.
- 4 GB of DDR3 (1333).
My new setup seems smoother overall (although Firefox seems to take longer to shutdown). I noticed something disappointing/strange after refreshing my WEI score: - 8 GB of DDR2 ( 800) - 7.2
- 4 GB of DDR3 (1333) - 5.9
I was under the impression that: - DDR3 was faster than DDR2.
- 1333 was faster than 800.
I'm sure that my old system was using the default settings (i.e. no overclocking). Is the WEI memory score actually based on capacity, speed and type?
Do I need to adjust my BIOS settings? Also when I run System Information Tool: - XP SP3 CPU Power - 140W.
- Windows 7 CPU Power - 70W.
According to AMD it is rated at 125W. AMD Phenom
All other values (e.g. voltages and temperatures) seem to be basically the same.
The temperatures seem to be basically the same in Ubuntu as well. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number n/a OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Windows XP SP3, Ubuntu 10.04 CPU AMD Phenom II x6 1055T, 2.8 GHz Motherboard ASRock 880GMH-LE/USB3 Memory 4 GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT Sound Card Realtek? Monitor(s) Displays Analog Silicon Graphics Screen Resolution 1600x1200 Mouse Wired Optical Case Tower Hard Drives Western Digital 1 TB (SATA), Western Digital 1.5 TB (SATA) Internet Speed DSL Other Info System Upgraded - 2011-05-21, 2010-07-14
HDD Upgraded - 2010-08-11 |
05-23-2011
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#2 | | Debian Squeeze Stable 64-bit |
It is faster, but you've halved the memory amount. Double to 8GB and it will shoot up to 7.8 or so. | My System Specs | | OS Debian Squeeze Stable 64-bit |
05-23-2011
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#3 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit |
Yes, I'd suspect that you'd get a higher WEI core for DDR2 based on........ - 8 GB of DDR2 ( 800)
- 4 GB of DDR3 (1333)
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-built OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit CPU Intel Core i7-3770 Motherboard Gigabyte Z68A-D3H-B3 Memory G.SKILL 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 F3-10666CL9D-8GBNT Graphics Card Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 6670 Sound Card Realtek ALC892 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster P2370HD, Dell 1703FPT Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech Deluxe 250 Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU SeaSonic M12II SS-500GM Case Lian Li PC-9F Cooling Zalman CNPS9900LED Hard Drives Samsung Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ Internet Speed 8 Mbps |
05-23-2011
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Windows XP SP3, Ubuntu 10.04 |
Thanks Guys Thanks Guys. 
So the WEI score is based on capacity, speed and type.
Unfortunately my new motherboard only has two slots and since I was short of cash, I had to choose a 4 GB kit.
Also my old setup refused to take advantage of the 8 GB, so I didn't think that I would lose out.
C'est la vie. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number n/a OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Windows XP SP3, Ubuntu 10.04 CPU AMD Phenom II x6 1055T, 2.8 GHz Motherboard ASRock 880GMH-LE/USB3 Memory 4 GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT Sound Card Realtek? Monitor(s) Displays Analog Silicon Graphics Screen Resolution 1600x1200 Mouse Wired Optical Case Tower Hard Drives Western Digital 1 TB (SATA), Western Digital 1.5 TB (SATA) Internet Speed DSL Other Info System Upgraded - 2011-05-21, 2010-07-14
HDD Upgraded - 2010-08-11 |
05-23-2011
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DDR3 isn't inherently faster than DDR2. It is, however, capable of clocking higher.
DDR3 1066 and DDR2 1066 will perform near-identically at equal amounts. The DDR2 may very well have tighter timings, and therefore perform slightly better.
Phenom IIs are pretty poor at taking advantage of high memory bandwidth, anyway. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Core i5 2500K Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z68A-D3-B3 Memory 8GB G.SKILL Ripjaws X DDR3 2133 Graphics Card nVidia Geforce 9500GT Monitor(s) Displays Acer H233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Case Antec Three Hundred |
05-23-2011
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#6 | | Windows 7 X64 Professional/Windows 8 |
If your board has onboard graphics, your bios will have a setting for sideport, UMA or Sideport+UMA. It will usually be default at Sideport+UMA. Change the setting to Sideport. Save and exit. Run WEI again. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Brew - Always under construction OS Windows 7 X64 Professional/Windows 8 CPU intel i7-2600K Motherboard Asus P8Z68 V-Pro/GEN 3 Memory 8GB G.Skill Sniper DDR3-2133 (2X4GB) Graphics Card EVGA 670 2GB Sound Card Asus Xonar Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24" LCD VW246H Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech G500/Logitech Wireless PSU CORSAIR HX850W Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Corsair H100 w/ 4 noctua fans in push/pull. Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB,Crucial M4 64GB,Samsung HD103SJ 1TB, 1TB WD FAEX,Samsung 1.5TB, EXTERNAL HD- 2X Rosewill case esata w/ 1TB Samsung spinpoints & Black X esata 1TB Spinpoint, Rosewill USB 3.0 dock 1TB Spinpoint, Seagate GOFlex Pro 500GB & 750GB USB Internet Speed Foot Messenger speed Other Info 2nd Computer- Samsung RF711-SO1 17" Laptop i5-2310M, 8GB DDR3-1333, Crucial M4 and OCZ vertex2, Nvidia GT540M.Win 7 HP X64. |
05-23-2011
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X86 SP1 |
Check with the RAM maker's site for a forum on overclocking the memory, timing, Bus frequency etc. An AMD platform supposedly won't support DDR3 1600, but it will, I have one (see specs), but will take some tweaking.
WEI memory rating, while not a real benchmark, will give a user an idea about THAT PC's performance when a change is made. The memory rating takes both its speed and amount available to get the score. My setup my set up gets 7.6. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Brittechnologies II OS Windows 7 Ultimate X86 SP1 CPU i5-2550K differing speeds depending on the day Motherboard ASUS P8X68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB G.Skill Sniper 2133MHz, 4X4GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Onboard Realtek 5-1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570HD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Old Dell USB From 10 yrs Ago Mouse Gigabyte m6900 wired PSU Corsair HX650W Case Inwin Dragon rider Cooling Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans @1300 RPM Hard Drives TBA Internet Speed 8-19 Mbs down, 3-4 Mbs up Comcast Cable Other Info 5 fans, LG Bluray/R/RE, ASUS DVD/R/RW |
05-24-2011
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Running a K10's memory at anything above 1333 give sminimal benefit. 1333 doesn't really perform much better than 1066 most of the time, really. Even Sandy Bridge has minimal gains with RAM above 1333 MHz. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Core i5 2500K Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z68A-D3-B3 Memory 8GB G.SKILL Ripjaws X DDR3 2133 Graphics Card nVidia Geforce 9500GT Monitor(s) Displays Acer H233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Case Antec Three Hundred |
05-24-2011
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#9 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Windows XP SP3, Ubuntu 10.04 |
Thanks Guys (Once Again) Thanks for your input/suggestions. 
Quote: Originally Posted by pantsaregood DDR3 isn't inherently faster than DDR2. It is, however, capable of clocking higher.
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Phenom IIs are pretty poor at taking advantage of high memory bandwidth, anyway. I read something about that earlier today.
Someone posted an article about it on these forums. 
Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe If your board has onboard graphics, your bios will have a setting for sideport, UMA or Sideport+UMA. It will usually be default at Sideport+UMA. Change the setting to Sideport. Save and exit. Run WEI again. My board must be too cheap. 
It only has UMA or Disable. 
Quote: Originally Posted by Britton30 Check with the RAM maker's site for a forum on overclocking the memory, timing, Bus frequency etc. An AMD platform supposedly won't support DDR3 1600, but it will, I have one (see specs), but will take some tweaking. I'm too paranoid to overclock my system.
I've only had these new parts for a few days and I don't want to risk cooking them.
I reinstalled my NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT card and disabled the on-board graphics.
My WEI memory score increased to 7.4 (from 5.9) | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number n/a OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Windows XP SP3, Ubuntu 10.04 CPU AMD Phenom II x6 1055T, 2.8 GHz Motherboard ASRock 880GMH-LE/USB3 Memory 4 GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT Sound Card Realtek? Monitor(s) Displays Analog Silicon Graphics Screen Resolution 1600x1200 Mouse Wired Optical Case Tower Hard Drives Western Digital 1 TB (SATA), Western Digital 1.5 TB (SATA) Internet Speed DSL Other Info System Upgraded - 2011-05-21, 2010-07-14
HDD Upgraded - 2010-08-11 |
05-24-2011
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#10 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X86 SP1 |
Glad to hear you have it sorted out! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Brittechnologies II OS Windows 7 Ultimate X86 SP1 CPU i5-2550K differing speeds depending on the day Motherboard ASUS P8X68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB G.Skill Sniper 2133MHz, 4X4GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Onboard Realtek 5-1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570HD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Old Dell USB From 10 yrs Ago Mouse Gigabyte m6900 wired PSU Corsair HX650W Case Inwin Dragon rider Cooling Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans @1300 RPM Hard Drives TBA Internet Speed 8-19 Mbs down, 3-4 Mbs up Comcast Cable Other Info 5 fans, LG Bluray/R/RE, ASUS DVD/R/RW WEI - DDR2 vs DDR3 problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:47 AM. |  |