| Windows 7: Query re HDD's |
11 Jun 2011
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#1 | | Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 7 Home Prem / Laptop 7 Pro all 64bit |
Query re HDD's I have had a quick look but cannot find much but.....
I have built a SB with i5 2500 on Gigabyte GA-H67A-UD3H-B3 Motherboard and I fitted a Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB HD103SJ but find it a bit noisy so have bought a
Seagate Barracuda 1TB ST31000524AS not only because it is supposed to be quieter but it is also a 6Gbs transfer rate, and hoping it will speed up the boot as a bonus.
Can I transfer the OS and everything on the Samsung to the Seagate and then disconnect and remove the Samsung ? keep it for another small build ? spare - easily or is it going to be a difficult task to do that.
I also have an internal Seagate Barracuda 500GB ST3500413AS as a back up as well. Can I also just put the OS only onto this drive in the event of the other drive crashing completely.
I do back up onto a 3.0 USB external as a matter of course, as I like to be overly cautious rather than stuck with zip.
Advice and direction most appreciated | My System Specs |
| Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (new) Desk1 / Toshiba L550 / Desk2 1st build OS Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 7 Home Prem / Laptop 7 Pro all 64bit CPU Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i5 430m / Desk2 i5 2500 Motherboard Desk1 Asus P877-V / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ? Memory Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop 8Gb DDR3 Graphics Card Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel Sound Card Desk 1 & 2 -XONAR DG Realtek High Def audio Laptop Monitor(s) Displays Desk 1 Benq HD 2450 / Desk2 Philips 24" / Laptop 17.5" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 D1 & D2 Keyboard Desk 1 MS Sidewinder X6 Desk 2 MS Sidewinder X 4 Mouse Desk 1&2 - Gigabyte MS 900 gamer - laptop - Logitec wireless PSU Desk 1 Corsair HX 1050/ Laptop ? / Desk 2 Corsair HX 650 Case Desk 1 Cooler HAF XM ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster Cooling Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - all Coolermasters 5 Laptop ? Hard Drives Desk1 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD
Toshiba Crucial 120GB SSD
Desk2 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD Internet Speed ADSL2+ Other Info One other Desktop (tester) and spare Toshba laptop both with SSD's
Running Kaspersky 2011 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK |
11 Jun 2011
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 |
Hi ICit2lol. 
Please follow the Transfer Windows 7 Installation to a New Computer guidelines to be safe. 
Hope that helps. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number WALLONN7 / LIN BLACK SERIES II OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU AMD PHENOM II X6 1090T 3.2GHz Motherboard GIGABYTE GA-890FXA-UD7 Memory 8GB G.SKILL RIPJAWS - F3-10666CL7D Graphics Card SAPPHIRE ATI RADEON HD 5870 VAPOR X OC Sound Card REALTEK DOLBY HOME THEATER Monitor(s) Displays LED LG W2486L Screen Resolution 1080p Keyboard MICROSOFT DIGITAL MEDIA KEYBOARD 3000 - USB Mouse MICROSOFT BASIC OPTICAL MOUSE 2.0 - USB PSU ZALMAN ZM1000-HP 1000W Case THERMALTAKE XASER VI VG4000SWA Cooling 140MM x3 / 120MM x1 AIR COOLING - THERMALTAKE Hard Drives SEAGATE 1TB -ST31000528AS - AHCI MODE - AS SATA Internet Speed 600KBPS Other Info MICROSOFT XBOX 360 CONTROLLER |
11 Jun 2011
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#4 | | 7 Ultimate x64 California |
You might want to try flashing the Samsung firmware before decide to put all that effort: http://www.samsung.com/global/busine...=QI&faqKeyword
I have 2 F3's and they're very quiet. If you're hearing them, then that's not normal. | My System Specs | | OS 7 Ultimate x64 CPU i5-2500k Motherboard Asus P8P67 Pro Memory 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-12800CL7D-8GBXH 1866MHz 8-9-8-24 Graphics Card EVGA GTX 570 SC Sound Card X-Fi Titanium Fatality Monitor(s) Displays Samsung S27A550H 27" LED Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard MS Natural Elite 4000 Ergonomic Mouse Logitech G500 PSU PC Power & Cooling Silencer 760 Case Lian Li Lancool K62 Cooling Thermalright Venomous X Black/Scythe S-Flex/Shin-Etsu X23 Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 3 120GB.
1TB Samsung F3.
2TB Samsung F4. Internet Speed 6MB/768 Other Info Logitech Z-5500 505 watts.
D-Link DGL-4500.
Tripp-Lite Smart Pro 1500. |
11 Jun 2011
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#5 | | Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 7 Home Prem / Laptop 7 Pro all 64bit |
Thanks to all Thanks so much for all of the advice fell errrrrr people - better be politically correct eh?lolzzzz Yeah Fumz that what everyone is telling me I have quietened it down to some extant by packing the side slot rails with some strips of rubber glove and small pieces of those stick on rubberized table leg ends. it is is just that infernal clicking when it's booting going through the motions of something that is quite distracting. Especially as I fitted the machine with Nexus Silents (5) to have some peace and quiet as desk 1 does have this constant fan noise when running (can't fit the Silents until a year - warranty) . The other feature I thought would be useful too was that I could speed up my machine by using the 6Gbs drive/es. But I will go through the tutorial and the guidelines to make sure I have an idea on what I am doing - sorry am very new at this - old looking for a retirement hobby (love anything electronic based) and you folks have ben so kind to give up your time to help me out I am so appreciative.
Machine specs - Lite-On IHAS324 24x DVDRW Nexus Real Silent White LED 120mm (5 pack) G.Skill Ripjaws F3-10666CL7D-4GBRH (2x2GB) DDR3 Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB HD103SJ Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit OEM Corsair HX-650 Power Supply CoolerMaster Centurion 5 II Black (No PSU) Fractal Design Silent Series 140mm Fan Thumbscrews - Red (10 Pack) Intel Core i5 2500 Gigabyte GA-H67A-UD3H-B3 Motherboard plus I have added a Gigabyte Radeon 5450 card 8GB more of Rip jaws RAM (now 12GB all up) Asus Xonar DG card TP-Link ethernet card - wouldn't work on the mobo socket changed the rear fan to one of the Nexus ones and fitted a 140 the top and two 120's to the side panels (fitting my own home made filters) Am about to fit a Scythe Kaze Master fan controller and 2x extra 3.0 USB outlets to the back panel via PCI card In hindsight I should have gone with the 2500K and a P67 board but being a bit dumb thought this was a bit overboard but as you can see I have done this anyway. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (new) Desk1 / Toshiba L550 / Desk2 1st build OS Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 7 Home Prem / Laptop 7 Pro all 64bit CPU Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i5 430m / Desk2 i5 2500 Motherboard Desk1 Asus P877-V / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ? Memory Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop 8Gb DDR3 Graphics Card Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel Sound Card Desk 1 & 2 -XONAR DG Realtek High Def audio Laptop Monitor(s) Displays Desk 1 Benq HD 2450 / Desk2 Philips 24" / Laptop 17.5" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 D1 & D2 Keyboard Desk 1 MS Sidewinder X6 Desk 2 MS Sidewinder X 4 Mouse Desk 1&2 - Gigabyte MS 900 gamer - laptop - Logitec wireless PSU Desk 1 Corsair HX 1050/ Laptop ? / Desk 2 Corsair HX 650 Case Desk 1 Cooler HAF XM ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster Cooling Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - all Coolermasters 5 Laptop ? Hard Drives Desk1 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD
Toshiba Crucial 120GB SSD
Desk2 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD Internet Speed ADSL2+ Other Info One other Desktop (tester) and spare Toshba laptop both with SSD's
Running Kaspersky 2011 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK |
11 Jun 2011
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#6 | | |
Unless the Seagate HDD is inherently faster, you won't see any boot time improvement because it is 6 Gb/s = 600 MB/s - the HDD themselves are much slower than this - on the order of 100-125 MB/s. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built (GeneO industries)/Model 3 OS Windows 7 64 bit SP1 CPU i5 2500k @ 4.5 GHz, 1.264V 124 GFlop (IBT with AVX) Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB (4GBx4) 1600MHz G.skill Ripjaws X 8-8-8-24 Graphics Card MSI GTX 660 Ti PE/OC, 2GB 7160 MHz DDR5 clock, 1228 Mhz Core Sound Card Onboard Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays NEC Spectraview 2490WUXi-SV Screen Resolution 1920 x 1200 Keyboard HP Wireless Mouse HP wireless PSU Seasonic X-850 (2012 KM3 model) Case Fractal Design "Define R3" Cooling CM TPC 812 push/pull, 3 120mm, 2 TY-140 case fans Hard Drives Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (System), Crucial 128GB M4 SSD, 2x WD Caviar 1TB Black internal (data), 1x WD Blue 6Gb/s 1TB Internal, 1x 2TB eSata WD20EARS Green, 2x 500GB Seagate external USB, 1x 350GB exte Internet Speed 27.8 Mb/s down, 5.6 Mb/s up Other Info USB 3.0 x4 , SATA III x4, eSATA x3, SATA II x4, USB 2.0 x8. 2 Samsung DVD R/W drives.
WEI: CPU 7.7, Memory 7.8, Graphics 7.9, Disk 7.9 |
11 Jun 2011
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 Mt. Crumpit/Whoville |
Clicking is usually a sign of a failing, on its last legs, drive. I've been there with that before. You can run Samsung's HDD Test to be sure before getting all your data and OS on it, and POOF! | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built Desktop By DataTech OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 CPU Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB G.Skill Sniper 2133MHz 4x4GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Onboard Realtek 5-1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570HD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Old, beat-up Dell USB From 10 yrs Ago Mouse Gigabyte m6900 wired PSU Corsair HX650W Case Inwin Dragon Rider Cooling Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB for OS, 750GB Seagate MomentusXT for data, 500GB Seagate Constellation for storage Internet Speed 8-19 Mbs down, 3-4 Mbs up Comcast Cable Antivirus Norton Internet Security Browser IE 9, Opera when needed Other Info 4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power generator with flux capacitor, 1.21 gigawatts. |
11 Jun 2011
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#8 | | Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 7 Home Prem / Laptop 7 Pro all 64bit |
Ok Thanks Gene I am a non savvy so just saw 6Gbs and thought woo hoo!!
Oh and Briton this drive was only installed on about the 1st of May so basically it is brand new. As I said I have packed the sides with some bits of rubber that has stopped some of the noise but perhaps I'm just being a bit overly fussy e that clicking as it reads eh? But I might just run that test for curiosity anyway as long as it will just download a tetsre without having to go through al that model numbers, serial numbers yada yada as I had to with Gigabyte just recently for a BIOS query. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (new) Desk1 / Toshiba L550 / Desk2 1st build OS Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 7 Home Prem / Laptop 7 Pro all 64bit CPU Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i5 430m / Desk2 i5 2500 Motherboard Desk1 Asus P877-V / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ? Memory Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop 8Gb DDR3 Graphics Card Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel Sound Card Desk 1 & 2 -XONAR DG Realtek High Def audio Laptop Monitor(s) Displays Desk 1 Benq HD 2450 / Desk2 Philips 24" / Laptop 17.5" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 D1 & D2 Keyboard Desk 1 MS Sidewinder X6 Desk 2 MS Sidewinder X 4 Mouse Desk 1&2 - Gigabyte MS 900 gamer - laptop - Logitec wireless PSU Desk 1 Corsair HX 1050/ Laptop ? / Desk 2 Corsair HX 650 Case Desk 1 Cooler HAF XM ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster Cooling Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - all Coolermasters 5 Laptop ? Hard Drives Desk1 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD
Toshiba Crucial 120GB SSD
Desk2 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD Internet Speed ADSL2+ Other Info One other Desktop (tester) and spare Toshba laptop both with SSD's
Running Kaspersky 2011 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK |
11 Jun 2011
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#9 | | 7 Ultimate x64 California |

Quote: Originally Posted by ICit2lol ... this drive was only installed on about the 1st of May so basically it is brand new. As I said I have packed the sides with some bits of rubber that has stopped some of the noise but perhaps I'm just being a bit overly fussy e that clicking as it reads eh? But I might just run that test for curiosity anyway as long as it will just download a tetsre without having to go through al that model numbers, serial numbers yada yada as I had to with Gigabyte just recently for a BIOS query. You're not being overly fussy. If you're hearing it write, then you have a bad drive.
My guess is that there was a bad batch of 103SJ's because the firmware only works on them. I also installed a 103SJ about a month ago, and knowing about this patch beforehand, I had it at the ready; however, it would not work on mine. I have another 103 upstairs that's about a year old, and the firmware would not take there either. Since I haven't seen any of the reported problems on either drive, either I got lucky or you were unlucky.
If it were me, I'd RMA the drive. The F1's made a big whoosh sound when they spun up, the F3's, less so. The F4's are really noticable... but again, that's only when they spin up. Once they're up, you should not be hearing them write. | My System Specs | | OS 7 Ultimate x64 CPU i5-2500k Motherboard Asus P8P67 Pro Memory 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-12800CL7D-8GBXH 1866MHz 8-9-8-24 Graphics Card EVGA GTX 570 SC Sound Card X-Fi Titanium Fatality Monitor(s) Displays Samsung S27A550H 27" LED Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard MS Natural Elite 4000 Ergonomic Mouse Logitech G500 PSU PC Power & Cooling Silencer 760 Case Lian Li Lancool K62 Cooling Thermalright Venomous X Black/Scythe S-Flex/Shin-Etsu X23 Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 3 120GB.
1TB Samsung F3.
2TB Samsung F4. Internet Speed 6MB/768 Other Info Logitech Z-5500 505 watts.
D-Link DGL-4500.
Tripp-Lite Smart Pro 1500. |
12 Jun 2011
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#10 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 Mt. Crumpit/Whoville |
Correct the only sound, if any, from a HDD would be a low humming sound. I can't hear mine due to the case fans. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built Desktop By DataTech OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 CPU Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB G.Skill Sniper 2133MHz 4x4GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Onboard Realtek 5-1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570HD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Old, beat-up Dell USB From 10 yrs Ago Mouse Gigabyte m6900 wired PSU Corsair HX650W Case Inwin Dragon Rider Cooling Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB for OS, 750GB Seagate MomentusXT for data, 500GB Seagate Constellation for storage Internet Speed 8-19 Mbs down, 3-4 Mbs up Comcast Cable Antivirus Norton Internet Security Browser IE 9, Opera when needed Other Info 4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power generator with flux capacitor, 1.21 gigawatts. All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:06 AM. | |