Solved slow installation and boots up Win7

Hello,
My pc OS Win7 suddenly got NTLOADER boot problem and cannot boot. Had tried to repair the MBR with the installed disc but w/out sucess. So I formated the whole hdisk and reinstall the win7 os. This time I took 10 hrs to install the os. The pc was very slow in installation and finally finished the process but the pc booted up slow .Had go thru the forum and notice some people suggested the following:
1) disable the floppy if don't have
2) disable the usb controller
3) press F5 during installation
4) remove 2G of ram (as mine had 4G)
Had done 1 to 3 but no changes .When I remove 2G of ram there's a vast improvement of speed in booting. So I fixed in 2G of ram in re-do installation of the win 7 os . plug back 2 more G of ram in hopefully it will recognised as upgrade of ram. But the pc still booted up very slowly(about 45mins) Can the Motherboard hit by any virus to slow down the process in install and boot up.

The specs as following:
MSI P6N SLI motherboard
Core2duo E6550 2.33GHz
4 G OCZ Reaper series PC2 6400
Win 7 64bits OS

Can someone helps on the problem I encounter.
Thks

With memory you can check to see if the memory is compatible with the motherboard eg corsair has a memory finder tool - go here - Learn & Explore under learn and explore click memory finder - Learn & Explore then under find compatible products type in your details you can also go to your motherboards site -support -downloads - then type in the name of your motherboard.

Windows 7 has a memory diagnosis tool you can run by typing memory after clicking start. Im just trying to remember the better one - memtest86 : Memtest86+ - Advanced Memory Diagnostic Tool

My pc was working fine with the same os and config earlier after it was hit by ntloader missing problem. Had done memtest 86 but found no error. The ram should be compatible.
Thks

hi there
could you please fill out your system specs please as this will help the members of the forum help diagnose problems if they can see your set up

download this program rammon by pasmark (its Free) to help establish if the ram is ok be sure to choose the right program for 32 or 64 bit PassMark RAMMon - Identify RAM type, speed & memory timings

RAMMon is an easy to use Windows based application that allows users to quickly retrieve the Serial Presence Detect (SPD) data from their RAM modules. It will allow users to identify a multitude of attributes, of which, includes the manufacturer, the clockspeed and other data of their DDR2, DDR3, XMP and EPP memory devices and even some older memory types. It uses SysInfo DLL SDK to gather the SPD attributes from RAM devices. This information provides a snapshot of the available data for each RAM module installed on the system.

What is SPD?
Serial Presence Detect (SPD) is the standard set forth by JEDEC for a host system to retrieve attributes of memory modules. The SPD standard is intended for use on any memory module, independent of memory technology or module form factor.

RAMMon displays the values stored on RAM module such as the memory capacity, the manufactuer, serial number, model part number, the CAS latencies supported and the module voltage.

Also, depending on your RAM type, other specific SPD data can be retreived as well. Such as the module thickness, module width, maximum operating temperature and more.

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plus have a read of brinks tutorials
How to Open Troubleshooting in Windows 7 :ar: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/472-troubleshooting.html

How to Review Your Windows 7 Reliability and Problems History :ar: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/4566-problem-reports-solutions-view-history-details.html

How to Boot to the Advanced Boot Options in Windows 7 :ar: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/666-advanced-boot-options.html

My system specs as follow:
Motherboard ---MSI P6N SLI
CPU ----Intel Core2Duo E6550 2.33GHz
Graphic Card ----ASUS EAH4870 DARK KNIGHT
Ram ----OCZ Reaper 4GB pc2 6400 (2pcs 2GB ram)
H/Disk -----! Tera Seagate
OS -----Window 7 64 bits

Do not know any compatibilty of ram n motherboard as was running fine with the same system
thks

Try troubleshooting with a clean boot.

How to troubleshoot a problem by performing a clean boot in Windows Vista or in Windows 7

Slow startup is usually caused by an incompatible device/driver.

The first thing I would recommend is disconnecting everything that's not essential, and see does that solve the issue. If it does, then add devices back over time to see if/when the problem returns. antivirus software can slow boot up time but not to the
extreme boot up time you have quoted here is a program you can run that will show you statistics mass360 boot analyzer >> MaaS360 Boot Analyzer Review - MaaS360 Boot Analyzer Download - Softpedia

rick51 said:

Hello,
My pc OS Win7 suddenly got NTLOADER boot problem and cannot boot. Had tried to repair the MBR with the installed disc but w/out sucess. So I formated the whole hdisk and reinstall the win7 os. This time I took 10 hrs to install the os. The pc was very slow in installation and finally finished the process but the pc booted up slow .Had go thru the forum and notice some people suggested the following:
1) disable the floppy if don't have
2) disable the usb controller
3) press F5 during installation
4) remove 2G of ram (as mine had 4G)
Had done 1 to 3 but no changes .When I remove 2G of ram there's a vast improvement of speed in booting. So I fixed in 2G of ram in re-do installation of the win 7 os . plug back 2 more G of ram in hopefully it will recognised as upgrade of ram. But the pc still booted up very slowly(about 45mins) Can the Motherboard hit by any virus to slow down the process in install and boot up.

The specs as following:
MSI P6N SLI motherboard
Core2duo E6550 2.33GHz
4 G OCZ Reaper series PC2 6400
Win 7 64bits OS

Can someone helps on the problem I encounter.
Thks

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I would also be checking for a bios update at the MSI site if you find the hard drive is ok - see below:

Have you tested the hard drive for errors - download a hard drive diagnostic tool from the manufactures site of the drive eg Seagates (Sea tools for windows) to confirm a failing drive - and if it fails the tests and its still under warranty have it replaced for no cost - you can try a short test first and if passes you will have to do the long test, however if they run slow you will have to use the dos test, and burn the ISO to a cd see below:

Seagate provide a tool ( Sea tools dos) that zeros the drive which literally does that, as it returns the drive to new and requires initializing again before you can reuse it. It will also do the long and short tests mentioned above.

Still think its the memory incompatibility for an unknown reason, or in need of a bios update - however, if anything is corrupted to do with the boot zeroing the drive removes it all.

Had done a series of test recommended by Brianzion, but do not know how to analyze the datas. Do not know how to attached the results on this forum also. Had run the os on 2 different hdisk but same problem.
Thks

hi for the rammon follow these instructions (look at snapshot for a guide) to post results>>

• run rammon
• click export/copy box
• choose text
• click copy to clipboard box
• in the reply box in windows 7 forum right click and click PASTE

Hello Brianzion,
Can I use another pc to attach the result as the affected pc was very slow in respone.
Thks

the rammon takes the information from the pc that you are running it on you could paste it to a email and send it to yourself then open up email on the other computer then copy and paste that way to the forum or make a document file in a folder and zip up the document and upload it to the forum CHOOSE TEXT AND WRITE TO FILE OPTION as in snapshot below

right click on the file
in context menu go to send to
click on compressed (zipped) folder

probably your HDD? try adjusting those wire that plugged at the back of your HDD i know its sounds odd but try

rick51 said:

Had done a series of test recommended by Brianzion, but do not know how to analyze the datas. Do not know how to attached the results on this forum also. Had run the os on 2 different hdisk but same problem.
Thks

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Its not likely to be the hard drive if you installed the OS on 2 different hard drives and came up with the same result. I have located your driver page on the MSI site- it has all compatible memory, bios updates etc - live update would be an excellent idea as it would update your bios - the manual is there also it may be worth studying so you could pick a incorrect bios setting to do with hard drives etc.

If the PC is too slow you could use the flash utility for the bios update and hope that fixes it -would be the safest under the circumstances - otherwise you might have an error and major problems

http://www.msi.com/product/mb/P6N-SLI.html#?div=Overview

Hello Brianzion,
Attached is the result on the ram. It takes me an hour just to log in, post this reply ,hope it can let u analyze the result. THks all.
RAMMon v1.0 Build: 1002 built with SysInfo v1.0 Build: 1006
PassMark (R) Software
www.passmark.com
Memmory summary for A-PC:
Number of Memory Devices: 2 Total Physical Memory: 4095 MB (4096 MB)
Total Available Physical Memory: 3390 MB
Memory Load: 17%
Item | Slot #1 | Slot #2 | Slot #3 | Slot #4 |
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----------------------|----------------------|-----------------|-----------------|-
Ram Type | DDR2 | DDR2 | Not Populated | Not Populated |
Standard Name | DDR2-800 | DDR2-800 | | |
Module Name | PC2-6400 | PC2-6400 | | |
Memory Capacity (MB) | 2048 | 2048 | | |
Bus Clockspeed (Mhz) | 400.00 | 400.00 | | |
Jedec Manufacture Name | OCZ | OCZ | | |
Search Amazon.com | Search! | Search! | | |
SPD Revision | 1.2 | 1.2 | | |
Registered | No | No | | |
ECC | No | No | | |
DIMM Slot # | 1 | 2 | | |
Manufactured | Year 2000 | Year 2000 | | |
Module Part # | OCZ2RPR800C42G | OCZ2RPR800C42G | | |
Module Revision | 0x2AB | 0x2AB | | |
Module Serial # | 0x0 | 0x0 | | |
Module Manufacturing Location | 2 | 2 | | |
# of Row Addressing Bits | 14 | 14 | | |
# of Column Addressing Bits | 10 | 10 | | |
# of Banks | 8 | 8 | | |
# of Ranks | 2 | 2 | | |
Device Width in Bits | 8 | 8 | | |
Bus Width in Bits | 64 | 64 | | |
Module Voltage | SSTL 1.8V | SSTL 1.8V | | |
CAS Latencies Supported | 3 4 5 | 3 4 5 | | |
Timings @ Max Frequency | 5-5-5-18 | 5-5-5-18 | | |
Minimum Clock Cycle Time, tCK (ns) | 2.500 | 2.500 | | |
Minimum CAS Latency Time, tAA (ns) | 12.500 | 12.500 | | |
Minimum RAS to CAS Delay, tRCD (ns) | 12.500 | 12.500 | | |
Minimum Row Precharge Time, tRP (ns) | 12.500 | 12.500 | | |
Minimum Active to Precharge Time, tRAS (ns) | 45.000 | 45.000 | | |
Minimum Row Active to Row Active Delay, tRRD (ns) | 7.500 | 7.500 | | |
Minimum Auto-Refresh to Active/Auto-Refresh Time, tRC (ns) | 60.000 | 60.000 | | |
Minimum Auto-Refresh to Active/Auto-Refresh Command Period, tRFC (ns) | 133.250 | 133.250 | | |
| | | | |
DDR2 Specific SPD Attributes | | | | |
Data Access Time from Clock, tAC (ns) | 0.400 | 0.400 | | |
Clock Cycle Time at Medium CAS Latency (ns) | 3.000 | 3.000 | | |
Data Access Time at Medium CAS Latency (ns) | 0.500 | 0.500 | | |
Clock Cycle Time at Short CAS Latency (ns) | 3.750 | 3.750 | | |
Data Access Time at Short CAS Latency (ns) | 0.600 | 0.600 | | |
Maximum Clock Cycle Time (ns) | 8.000 | 8.000 | | |
Write Recover Time, tWR (ns) | 15.000 | 15.000 | | |
Internal Write to Read Command Delay, tWTR (ns) | 7.500 | 7.500 | | |
Internal Read to Precharge Command Delay, tRTP (ns) | 7.500 | 7.500 | | |
Address/Command Setup Time Before Clock, tIS (ns) | 0.200 | 0.200 | | |
Address/Command Hold Time After Clock, tIH (ns) | 0.270 | 0.270 | | |
Data Input Setup Time Before Strobe, tDS (ns) | 0.100 | 0.100 | | |
Data Input Hold Time After Strobe, tDH (ns) | 0.170 | 0.170 | | |
Maximum Skew Between DQS and DQ Signals (ns) | 0.240 | 0.240 | | |
Maximum Read Data hold Skew Factor (ns) | 0.220 | 0.220 | | |
PLL Relock Time (ns) | 0.000 | 0.000 | | |
DRAM Package Type | Planar | Planar | | |
Burst Lengths Supported | 4 8 | 4 8 | | |
Refresh Rate | Reduced (7.8us) | Reduced (7.8us) | | |
# of PLLS on DIMM | 0 | 0 | | |
FET Switch External Enable | No | No | | |
Analysis Probe Installed | No | No | | |
Weak Driver Supported | Yes | Yes | | |
50 Ohm ODT Supported | Yes | Yes | | |
Partial Array Self Refresh Supported | Yes | Yes | | |
Module Type | UDIMM | UDIMM | | |
Module Height (mm) | 30.0 | 30.0 | | |

hi thanks for your patience

the ram looks fine both slots report identical settings so we have to establish why the slow running is happening.Try going to services (from search) and see if there are any services that are not needed. Go to task manager and see what appl, etc are using a lot of memory. Deactivate your Anti Virus, see if you get better performance. If your perfomance does improve without the A/V, you may want to change to another. Microsoft Essentials is a good choice. have a read of this >> Black Viper’s Windows 7 Service Pack 1 Service Configurations | Black Viper's Website | www.blackviper.com

oh i forgot to ask have you tried booting in safe mode ? to see if things speed up in safe mode windows loads just the basic drivers you may have a driver/s causing slow running.

Hello,
Have not try boot into safe mode ,anyway the pc was install only with the win7 os 64bits with no other running software , anti virus. Have not install any driver also, the win7 os install all by itself. Any way thks all for the effort in solving my problem. Maybe will try updating the m/bd bios.
Thks

Your problem sounds like your MCH voltage is to low. Thats why it works fine with 2 sticks of ram vs 4. look in your bios and find out what your MCH voltage is. Try increasing it just a bit until it becomes stable. Dont go crazy with it Try 1.350 volts. Even though most boards support 4 sticks it does require some tweaking so the MCH gets enough voltage.