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Windows 7 - External storage with redundancy suggestions? |
07-06-2011
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#1 | | Win XP Home SP3 / Win7 Ultimate dual boot |
External storage with redundancy suggestions? I am looking for external storage solutions for the backing up of data etc.
I previously used a USB2.0 WD MyBook, but have had several problems with it, culminating in a total loss of almost everything at the weekend.
So when I get a new storage device, I think I would like some redundancy to save future headaches. Probably a RAID1 mirror setup.
I don't have USB3.0 on the computer, but I do have the choice of USB2.0, Firewire, ESATA or the option of an ethernet based device.
I guess I need between 500Gb and 1Tb total (so 1 to 2 TB RAID1 mirrored).
So any suggestions would be welcome.
Many thanks,
Bob
PS Although I know many people are quite happy with WD, after my own bad experience I wouldn't get another one
| My System Specs | | OS Win XP Home SP3 / Win7 Ultimate dual boot CPU INTEL CORE 2 DUO E6300 Motherboard ASUS SKT-775 P5B-E PLUS Memory 2GB DDR2 PC-5400 Graphics Card XpertVision 256MB GeF 7300GT Sound Card MOBO Monitor(s) Displays Benq V2220 21.5 LCD Monitor Case ThermalTake CASE MAMBO Hard Drives 80 GB SATA HDD UDMA 300 7200 8MB
160 GB SATA HDD UDMA 300 7200 8MB
1Tb SATA HDD
500 Gb Western Digital MyBook Essential |
07-06-2011
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1, LinuxMint 9 LTS x64, Debian 6, Ubuntu 10.04 LTS x64 |
Hi Bob,
It sounds to me that your ideal solution is to get a home NAS (Network Attached Storage) with RAID1 capability. Essentially a NAS is a very small "computer" that has its own hard disks. Depending on the choice, these can be configured as RAID0, RAID1 or RAID5. Usually, you map the NAS drive to your PC and access the NAS just like you would any external drive. The usual connection is either USB or ethernet.
In your case, you want something fairly simple that has RAID1 capability, and luckily they are quite common now. Here is one example from overclockers.co.uk: Synology Diskstation DS211J 2-Bay Gigabit Ethernet Network Attached Storage Enclosure [DS211J]
With a NAS solution, you need:
1 x NAS enclosure
2 x good reliable hard disks
NAS' usually come with some additional capability like the ability to be configured as an HTP server etc. You don't have to utilise any of this if you don't want to. The most important features should be:
1. Hot-swappable disks
- if one disk dies you can simply replace one disk, and
2. Auto RAID rebuild
- if you do need to swap one disk, then the RAID is rebuilt automatically when you hot-swap the disk
I've been using a NAS for RAID1 storage for a while now, and feel secure that I have good redundant backups.
Good luck and let us know how you get on.
Regards,
Golden | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Golden Mk. I.3 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1, LinuxMint 9 LTS x64, Debian 6, Ubuntu 10.04 LTS x64 CPU Intel i7 860 @ 2.80 GHz Motherboard Gigabyte P55A-UD3R Rev.1. Award BIOS F13 Memory 16GB Corsair Vengance DDR3 @ 661 MHz Dual Channel (9-9-9-24) Graphics Card EVGA NVidia GTX 560 1024MB Sound Card Realtek Integrated Monitor(s) Displays Dual Samsung SyncMaster 2494HS Screen Resolution 1920*1080 and 1920*1080 Keyboard Logitech G110 Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU Thermaltake ToughPower QFan 750W Case Thermaltake Element S VK60001W2Z Cooling Corsair H60 Water Cooling, 2*230mm and 2*80mm case fans Hard Drives 1*OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD;
2*Samsung F3 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID0;
2*Samsung F1 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID1;
1*Western Digital WD10EARS 1TB
1*Western Digital 500GB External USB 3.0
1*Seagate 500GB External USB 2.0 Internet Speed Not fast enough!!! |
07-06-2011
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#3 | | Windows 7 X64 Professional/Windows 8 |
I would go with eSATA, it has always been faster for me. You may want to look through this thread about external devices. There are some good suggestions there. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Brew - Always under construction OS Windows 7 X64 Professional/Windows 8 CPU intel i7-2600K Motherboard Asus P8Z68 V-Pro/GEN 3 Memory 8GB G.Skill Sniper DDR3-2133 (2X4GB) Graphics Card EVGA 670 2GB Sound Card Asus Xonar Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24" LCD VW246H Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech G500/Logitech Wireless PSU CORSAIR HX850W Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Corsair H100 w/ 4 noctua fans in push/pull. Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB,Crucial M4 64GB,Samsung HD103SJ 1TB, 1TB WD FAEX,Samsung 1.5TB, EXTERNAL HD- 2X Rosewill case esata w/ 1TB Samsung spinpoints & Black X esata 1TB Spinpoint, Rosewill USB 3.0 dock 1TB Spinpoint, Seagate GOFlex Pro 500GB & 750GB USB Internet Speed Foot Messenger speed Other Info 2nd Computer- Samsung RF711-SO1 17" Laptop i5-2310M, 8GB DDR3-1333, Crucial M4 and OCZ vertex2, Nvidia GT540M.Win 7 HP X64. |
07-06-2011
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#4 | | |
Of your connection choices, eSATA is the best one as it's going to give you fastest performance. It should be nearly identical to the speed of a SATA hard drive connected inside your machine.
You mention that the external storage will be used for backups, right? In this case, I don't suggest the use of RAID1 (Mirror). The reason is pretty simple, but with a MIRROR configuration, if you do something dumb on accident (like delete some files), or accidentally have a security incident (virus infecting files), with a RAID1 mirror both the source and the destination are wiped out at the exact same time. Thus it's not much of a backup really. Also, a RAID 1 mirror won't give you any protection whatsoever in the event that your machine is stolen, or your house burned to the ground. Both drives would most likely be taken or destroyed at the same time. Finally, it can be tough sometimes taking 1 drive from a mirror set, putting it into another computer and actually getting the data off the drive. Therefore, what good is having the data if you cannot read it/retrieve it/use it.
So, my suggestion would be something like this.
1). Install a second physical hard drive into your computer and store your data on it, as well as backup images of your C drive (use something like Acronis True Image or Macrium Relect Free to make those images).
2). Store your data in a folder like D:\data (with a bunch of subfolders underneath it). Store your images in a folder called D:\images with possible sub folders (if you like).
3). Then, purchase an external hard disk, or at least the same capacity as that second internal hard disk (or bigger) and at frequent intervals, use something like robocopy (comes with Windows 7) to synchronize the data on the D drive with the external drive.
4). Keep the external hard drive off site somewhere (at work, at a friends house, etc). This way in your house is destroyed, or computer is stolen, you can retrieve your data from another location. And with this method of backups, the actual data files are not compressed, not in a backup file that requires any software to mount, and not difficult to retrieve from any other computer.
The syntax for robocopy is simple and could be put into a batch file and run whenever you choose. With robocopy, it only copies files that have changed since you last run the synchronize, so the first copy takes the longest time, but the rest are all just the changes...so they are extremely fast.
C:\windows\system32\robocopy.exe C:\data E:\backups\data /E /MIR
C:\windows\system32\robocopy.exe C:\images E:\backups\images /E /MIR
The /E copies all subdirectories including empty ones.
The /MIR says to mirror the source to the destination. So, if you deleted a file on C:\data and then run this job, it will then delete the copy on E:\backups\data.
Here is a quick video that I did for another member a while back on using robocopy
And here is a followup video on how to schedule this this robocopy job to run; | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/1 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
07-06-2011
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#5 | | Vista and Windows7, sometimes Ubuntu and Fedora |
1. eSata is definitely the way to go
2. Buy an external enclosure like this one and a bunch of cheap internal disks. Then you can vary.
3. Make frequent images of your system and data: Imaging with free Macrium | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway - 2 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista and Windows7, sometimes Ubuntu and Fedora CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to 2.5GHz Quad Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse terrible devices, who wants them Hard Drives 5x HDD, 2x SSD, 6x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 External storage with redundancy suggestions? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:13 AM. |  |