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07-08-2011
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#1 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit (OEM) SP1 |
memtest86+ I've had some BSOD's of different flavors for about a year in my first build(see system specs). All of them have been resolved, some quickly and some have lingered before I dropped the hammer.
I got another one 4 days ago so used memtest86+.
Since I have 2 sticks of 2GB each I just tested them both. I got 12 errors in 8 minutes, went out for 3 hours and had 140 errors.
So I figured the problem was resolved, only to find out if it was the ram or the MB slots.
So I ran stick #1 in slot #1, no errors.
then stick #2 in slot #1, no errors.
I figured it was slot #2 by then.
So ran stick #1 in slot #2, no errors.
and then stick #2 in slot #2, no errors.
I ran each test for about 2 hours and at least a few passes.
So Then just ran the original configuration, stick #1 in slot #1 and stick #2 in slot #2.
No errors since.
What could be the problem?
One idea I had is that there was maybe a spec of dirt/dust between the contacts.
The other area I noted is that when I put the ram in I would get it down pretty far and use the tabs at the ends of the slot to 'grab' the ram and seat it.
But the last time I put the ram in I just pushed down and the tabs automatically moved to the close position.
What about memory controller? Could this be a problem and where is it/what file is it?
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Personal Build OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit (OEM) SP1 CPU i7-875K (No Overclock) Motherboard GA-P55-USB3 Rev. 2, F9 bios Memory 4GB G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 1600 7-8-7-24-2t 1.65V Graphics Card XFX HD-577X-ZNFC 5770 1GB Sound Card Onboard Monitor(s) Displays Asus VH222H Black 21.5 Screen Resolution 1920X1080 @60 Hz Keyboard Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 Mouse Microsoft IntelliMouse Optical 1.1A PSU CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W Case COOLER MASTER RC-692-KKN2 CM690 II Advanced Cooling COOLER MASTER Hyper 212+ Hard Drives SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB Internet Speed 3 Mb/s Other Info ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS
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Quote: Originally Posted by George1 I've had some BSOD's of different flavors for about a year in my first build(see system specs). All of them have been resolved, some quickly and some have lingered before I dropped the hammer.
I got another one 4 days ago so used memtest86+.
Since I have 2 sticks of 2GB each I just tested them both. I got 12 errors in 8 minutes, went out for 3 hours and had 140 errors.
So I figured the problem was resolved, only to find out if it was the ram or the MB slots.
So I ran stick #1 in slot #1, no errors.
then stick #2 in slot #1, no errors.
I figured it was slot #2 by then.
So ran stick #1 in slot #2, no errors.
and then stick #2 in slot #2, no errors.
I ran each test for about 2 hours and at least a few passes.
So Then just ran the original configuration, stick #1 in slot #1 and stick #2 in slot #2.
No errors since.
What could be the problem?
One idea I had is that there was maybe a spec of dirt/dust between the contacts.
The other area I noted is that when I put the ram in I would get it down pretty far and use the tabs at the ends of the slot to 'grab' the ram and seat it.
But the last time I put the ram in I just pushed down and the tabs automatically moved to the close position.
What about memory controller? Could this be a problem and where is it/what file is it? Ok lets assume it fails first time when the machine is fairly cold but does not in later runs. maybe heat, or power.
Are you overclocking, or undervolting? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavillion dv-7 1005 Tx OS WCP ONLY CPU 2@2.4 Memory 4 gigs Graphics Card Nvidia 9600M Sound Card HD built-in Monitor(s) Displays 17" Wxga Screen Resolution 1440x900 Cooling none Internet Speed 45Mb down 5Mb up |
07-08-2011
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#3 | | Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium SP1 |
To answer your question(s):
Yes, if the sticks were poorly seated, or they were not making good contact due to dust or debris that would definitely cause errors.
The memory controller in an X58 (Intel i7) system is on the CPU.
Test to see if there are errors when started cold as opposed to all warmed up. As ZigZag suggested, if there are errors in that case you could be looking at another problem. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DESKTOP - Home Built - March 2009 OS Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium SP1 CPU i7-920 Motherboard Asus P6T - Bios 1408 Memory Corsair TR3X6G1333C9 - 6GB Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX260+ - Driver 296.10 Sound Card On board Realtek ACL1200 Monitor(s) Displays Dell 2007FP Screen Resolution 1280 x 960 Keyboard MS KC-0405 Mouse Intellimouse 5-button PSU Corsair CMPSU-750TX - 750 watt Case Lian Li PC-K10B Cooling Standard, 3 120mm case fans Hard Drives #1- Western Digital WD6401AALS Sata Black
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07-08-2011
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#4 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit (OEM) SP1 |

Quote: Originally Posted by TVeblen To answer your question(s):
Yes, if the sticks were poorly seated, or they were not making good contact due to dust or debris that would definitely cause errors.
The memory controller in an X58 (Intel i7) system is on the CPU.
Test to see if there are errors when started cold as opposed to all warmed up. As ZigZag suggested, if there are errors in that case you could be looking at another problem. Thanks for the reply.
No overclocking and the machine was somewhat warm.
In the first test with both sticks it lasted about 3 hours, getting errors along the way and the same errors with certain sections of the test. Every pass had the same amount of errors and the same place like 0002 0040 is 0000 0040, the third number from the left is wrong.
Since the test lasted awhile the machine was warm through all but the first passes.
I'm on the second motherboard and second PSU already for a year old build for various BSOD's and freezes. Though it worked for awhile now till this.
All of these errors over this time have different origins. Still trying to get this computer working since. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Personal Build OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit (OEM) SP1 CPU i7-875K (No Overclock) Motherboard GA-P55-USB3 Rev. 2, F9 bios Memory 4GB G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 1600 7-8-7-24-2t 1.65V Graphics Card XFX HD-577X-ZNFC 5770 1GB Sound Card Onboard Monitor(s) Displays Asus VH222H Black 21.5 Screen Resolution 1920X1080 @60 Hz Keyboard Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 Mouse Microsoft IntelliMouse Optical 1.1A PSU CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W Case COOLER MASTER RC-692-KKN2 CM690 II Advanced Cooling COOLER MASTER Hyper 212+ Hard Drives SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB Internet Speed 3 Mb/s Other Info ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS
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07-08-2011
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#5 | | Windows 7 X64 Professional/Windows 8 |
This may sound like an elementary question, but you said the sticks were in slots #1 and #2. If I am not mistaken your MB manuel states with 2 sticks, they should be in slots#2 and #4.
But, I had a similar problem with another MB. It turned out that all sticks would run with no errors in any dimm slot. But, if dimm slot #1 and #2 were populated, any stick in 3 or 4 would show errors. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Brew - Always under construction OS Windows 7 X64 Professional/Windows 8 CPU intel i7-2600K Motherboard Asus P8Z68 V-Pro/GEN 3 Memory 8GB G.Skill Sniper DDR3-2133 (2X4GB) Graphics Card EVGA 670 2GB Sound Card Asus Xonar Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24" LCD VW246H Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech G500/Logitech Wireless PSU CORSAIR HX850W Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Corsair H100 w/ 4 noctua fans in push/pull. Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB,Crucial M4 64GB,Samsung HD103SJ 1TB, 1TB WD FAEX,Samsung 1.5TB, EXTERNAL HD- 2X Rosewill case esata w/ 1TB Samsung spinpoints & Black X esata 1TB Spinpoint, Rosewill USB 3.0 dock 1TB Spinpoint, Seagate GOFlex Pro 500GB & 750GB USB Internet Speed Foot Messenger speed Other Info 2nd Computer- Samsung RF711-SO1 17" Laptop i5-2310M, 8GB DDR3-1333, Crucial M4 and OCZ vertex2, Nvidia GT540M.Win 7 HP X64. |
07-08-2011
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#6 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit (OEM) SP1 |

Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe This may sound like an elementary question, but you said the sticks were in slots #1 and #2. If I am not mistaken your MB manuel states with 2 sticks, they should be in slots#2 and #4.
But, I had a similar problem with another MB. It turned out that all sticks would run with no errors in any dimm slot. But, if dimm slot #1 and #2 were populated, any stick in 3 or 4 would show errors. On the MB the slots were DDR3_1 and DDR3_3. If you only have two sticks then those have to be populated first.
The other inconsistency is that in the BIOS I have profile1 enabled, this is the settings from the ram to optimize it I guess. It also sets the voltage at 1.6V.
However the specs say the voltage should be 1.65V.
Maybe I should override this setting and increase voltage as specified.
RAM: 4GB G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 1600
Speed DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
Cas Latency 7
Timing 7-8-7-24-2N Voltage 1.65V
F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Personal Build OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit (OEM) SP1 CPU i7-875K (No Overclock) Motherboard GA-P55-USB3 Rev. 2, F9 bios Memory 4GB G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 1600 7-8-7-24-2t 1.65V Graphics Card XFX HD-577X-ZNFC 5770 1GB Sound Card Onboard Monitor(s) Displays Asus VH222H Black 21.5 Screen Resolution 1920X1080 @60 Hz Keyboard Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 Mouse Microsoft IntelliMouse Optical 1.1A PSU CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W Case COOLER MASTER RC-692-KKN2 CM690 II Advanced Cooling COOLER MASTER Hyper 212+ Hard Drives SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB Internet Speed 3 Mb/s Other Info ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS
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07-08-2011
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#7 | | Windows 7 X64 Professional/Windows 8 |
Did you increase the voltage? Check the timings and frequency too. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Brew - Always under construction OS Windows 7 X64 Professional/Windows 8 CPU intel i7-2600K Motherboard Asus P8Z68 V-Pro/GEN 3 Memory 8GB G.Skill Sniper DDR3-2133 (2X4GB) Graphics Card EVGA 670 2GB Sound Card Asus Xonar Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24" LCD VW246H Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech G500/Logitech Wireless PSU CORSAIR HX850W Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Corsair H100 w/ 4 noctua fans in push/pull. Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB,Crucial M4 64GB,Samsung HD103SJ 1TB, 1TB WD FAEX,Samsung 1.5TB, EXTERNAL HD- 2X Rosewill case esata w/ 1TB Samsung spinpoints & Black X esata 1TB Spinpoint, Rosewill USB 3.0 dock 1TB Spinpoint, Seagate GOFlex Pro 500GB & 750GB USB Internet Speed Foot Messenger speed Other Info 2nd Computer- Samsung RF711-SO1 17" Laptop i5-2310M, 8GB DDR3-1333, Crucial M4 and OCZ vertex2, Nvidia GT540M.Win 7 HP X64. |
07-09-2011
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#8 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit (OEM) SP1 |

Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe Did you increase the voltage? Check the timings and frequency too. The profile1(as it's called) setting is an optimized setting set by the ram. All the timings were as stated when running this profile1 as well as the frequency(1600).
The ram optimized profile only sets the voltage to 1.60V not the 1.65V that would be expected.
Maybe I should bring it up to 1.64 or 1.66V(I have only .02 increments to work with). | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Personal Build OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit (OEM) SP1 CPU i7-875K (No Overclock) Motherboard GA-P55-USB3 Rev. 2, F9 bios Memory 4GB G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 1600 7-8-7-24-2t 1.65V Graphics Card XFX HD-577X-ZNFC 5770 1GB Sound Card Onboard Monitor(s) Displays Asus VH222H Black 21.5 Screen Resolution 1920X1080 @60 Hz Keyboard Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 Mouse Microsoft IntelliMouse Optical 1.1A PSU CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W Case COOLER MASTER RC-692-KKN2 CM690 II Advanced Cooling COOLER MASTER Hyper 212+ Hard Drives SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB Internet Speed 3 Mb/s Other Info ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS
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07-09-2011
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#9 | | Windows 7 X64 Professional/Windows 8 |
It should work at 1.60. but I would bring it up to 1.66 for a try. But if the sticks run memtest OK indivudally but not together, it seems there must be some other problem. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Brew - Always under construction OS Windows 7 X64 Professional/Windows 8 CPU intel i7-2600K Motherboard Asus P8Z68 V-Pro/GEN 3 Memory 8GB G.Skill Sniper DDR3-2133 (2X4GB) Graphics Card EVGA 670 2GB Sound Card Asus Xonar Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24" LCD VW246H Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech G500/Logitech Wireless PSU CORSAIR HX850W Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Corsair H100 w/ 4 noctua fans in push/pull. Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB,Crucial M4 64GB,Samsung HD103SJ 1TB, 1TB WD FAEX,Samsung 1.5TB, EXTERNAL HD- 2X Rosewill case esata w/ 1TB Samsung spinpoints & Black X esata 1TB Spinpoint, Rosewill USB 3.0 dock 1TB Spinpoint, Seagate GOFlex Pro 500GB & 750GB USB Internet Speed Foot Messenger speed Other Info 2nd Computer- Samsung RF711-SO1 17" Laptop i5-2310M, 8GB DDR3-1333, Crucial M4 and OCZ vertex2, Nvidia GT540M.Win 7 HP X64. |
07-09-2011
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#10 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit (OEM) SP1 |

Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe It should work at 1.60. but I would bring it up to 1.66 for a try. But if the sticks run memtest OK indivudally but not together, it seems there must be some other problem. I did run them all together after all the individual stick/slot testing, no more errors. Could have just been how they were seated.
I'll just wait and see for now. Thanks for the insights! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Personal Build OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit (OEM) SP1 CPU i7-875K (No Overclock) Motherboard GA-P55-USB3 Rev. 2, F9 bios Memory 4GB G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 1600 7-8-7-24-2t 1.65V Graphics Card XFX HD-577X-ZNFC 5770 1GB Sound Card Onboard Monitor(s) Displays Asus VH222H Black 21.5 Screen Resolution 1920X1080 @60 Hz Keyboard Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 Mouse Microsoft IntelliMouse Optical 1.1A PSU CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W Case COOLER MASTER RC-692-KKN2 CM690 II Advanced Cooling COOLER MASTER Hyper 212+ Hard Drives SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB Internet Speed 3 Mb/s Other Info ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS
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