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Windows 7 - Wolfdale or Yorkfield ? |
View Poll Results: Dual or Quad ? | |
Dual Core
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Quad Core
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07-21-2009
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Wolfdale or Yorkfield ? Hi, I'm just about to order the necessary hardware parts for my first Mini iTX system.
The only item that gives me still headache is the CPU.
I'm thinking between E8400 (Wolfdale) and Q9550 (Yorkfield).
Surfing through the internet didn't bring me much closer to the answer.
The quad seems to be better for video processing (rendering & encoding) and some PC games (GTA IV).
The dual core seems to be more efficient.
Because I have an E8400 (C1) already in my mATX system, I feel more towards a quad for a change.
Now I'd like to find out the correlation between multicore and Window 7.
Does it take advantage of quads at all ?
| My System Specs | | OS Windos 7 x64 CPU Q9550 Yorkfield Motherboard Zotac GeForce 9300 ITX Memory G.Skill 2 x 4 GB Graphics Card on board Sound Card on board Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 2493HM Screen Resolution 1920 x 1200 Keyboard Saitek Eclipse Mouse Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse PSU PicoPSU 150-XT + 150W 12.5A AC-DC adapter Case Lian Li PC-Q07 in Silver Cooling Xilence CPU cooler XQ Hard Drives Intel X25-M SSD Internet Speed 4 MB Other Info Don't talk if you can't improve the silence. |
07-21-2009
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#2 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 - Mac OS X 10.6.4 x64 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Cov Hi, I'm just about to order the necessary hardware parts for my first Mini iTX system.
The only item that gives me still headache is the CPU.
I'm thinking between E8400 (Wolfdale) and Q9550 (Yorkfield).
Surfing through the internet didn't bring me much closer to the answer.
The quad seems to be better for video processing (rendering & encoding) and some PC games (GTA IV).
The dual core seems to be more efficient.
Because I have an E8400 (C1) already in my mATX system, I feel more towards a quad for a change.
Now I'd like to find out the correlation between multicore and Window 7.
Does it take advantage of quads at all ? I am very much asking myself the same question right now | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Compal JFT02 (Custom Build Laptop) OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 - Mac OS X 10.6.4 x64 CPU Intel Core 2 Duo T9300 2.5 GHz Motherboard JFT02 Memory 4GB Kingston DDR2-800 Graphics Card NVIDIA Geforce 8600M GT (512MB Model) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays WUXGA Standard Laptop Display Screen Resolution 1680*1050 Keyboard Standard Laptop 105 Key-Keyboard Mouse Synaptics Touchpad PSU Standard Laptop Power Supply Case Standard Laptop Case Cooling Standard Laptop Cooling Hard Drives Toshiba 320GB 5400RPM Laptop HD Internet Speed Verizion Online DSL 3360/864 kbs (dl/up) |
07-21-2009
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Windows 7 can take advantage of quad core CPU's. Although quite a number of software packages aren't geared specifically towards working any better with multiple cores...or more than 2 cores....so the difference might not be that great. With that said, I just built a machine with a Q9550....very nice CPU...I'm quite happy with it. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/1 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
07-21-2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 ... I just built a machine with a Q9550.... Can I ask you what temps you're getting please ?
The E8400 (C1) idles, according to everest, between 35 and 38 degrees.
That's with Intel's crappy stock cooler and without using any thermal paste.
Using Intel burn test, it goes up to 66 degrees at full load. | My System Specs | | OS Windos 7 x64 CPU Q9550 Yorkfield Motherboard Zotac GeForce 9300 ITX Memory G.Skill 2 x 4 GB Graphics Card on board Sound Card on board Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 2493HM Screen Resolution 1920 x 1200 Keyboard Saitek Eclipse Mouse Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse PSU PicoPSU 150-XT + 150W 12.5A AC-DC adapter Case Lian Li PC-Q07 in Silver Cooling Xilence CPU cooler XQ Hard Drives Intel X25-M SSD Internet Speed 4 MB Other Info Don't talk if you can't improve the silence. |
07-21-2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by Cov Can I ask you what temps you're getting please ?
The E8400 (C1) idles, according to everest, between 35 and 38 degrees.
That's with Intel's crappy stock cooler and without using any thermal paste.
Using Intel burn test, it goes up to 66 degrees at full load. Certainly, I am running mine (Q9550) on a Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R with the stock Intel cooler as well. I'm running mine with a 276 x 8.5 setting, so 3.2Ghz instead of 2.83.
I'm idling between 31-35, and under full load I'm seeing 58-62 degrees. That's according to the CoreTemps64 application on Windows 7 64-bit | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/1 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
07-21-2009
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I have an E8400 right now, and I've been really happy with it. If and when I upgrade, it'll be to quad core, though. I'd say even an 8500 since the price has dropped a fair amount from when I bought my cpu.
Whatever you get, I'd recommend investing in a better cooler. Just a thought...
Last edited by lokiundergod; 07-21-2009 at 05:09 PM..
Reason: added organization
| My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 64-bit CPU Intel C2D E8400 Wolfdale Motherboard Asus Maximus Formula Memory Mushkin 2GB DDR2 800 Graphics Card Asus 8800GT Mouse Logitech G7 PSU Cooler Master Real Power Pro RS-650-ACAA-A1 Case Lian-li PC-1010B Hard Drives 2x Seagate Barracuda ES.2 ST3250310NS 250GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA-II |
07-21-2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by lokiundergod Whatever you get, I'd recommend investing in a better cooler. Just a thought... I've been considering an aftermarket cooler...but in all honesty my temps are not a problem whatsoever. I guess I might be able to up my overclock more....but that comes at the risk of possible stability problems...so I don't anticipate going any higher. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/1 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
07-21-2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 ... idling between 31-35, and under full load I'm seeing 58-62 degrees. Thank you ! That sounds better than I dared to expect.
And yes lokiundergod, I will order these two CPU coolers.
One for the Mini iTX and one for the mATX system: | My System Specs | | OS Windos 7 x64 CPU Q9550 Yorkfield Motherboard Zotac GeForce 9300 ITX Memory G.Skill 2 x 4 GB Graphics Card on board Sound Card on board Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 2493HM Screen Resolution 1920 x 1200 Keyboard Saitek Eclipse Mouse Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse PSU PicoPSU 150-XT + 150W 12.5A AC-DC adapter Case Lian Li PC-Q07 in Silver Cooling Xilence CPU cooler XQ Hard Drives Intel X25-M SSD Internet Speed 4 MB Other Info Don't talk if you can't improve the silence. |
07-21-2009
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I've read internet posts of people getting much higher than I am seeing......but it doesn't seem to be a problem whatsoever on my machine. Temps are fine, my fans rarely (if ever) increase in speed and I've never had a crash or lockup. I've been very happy with this CPU. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/1 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
07-21-2009
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pparks1 ! I'm happy to speak with an Q9550 owner.
Please tell me, do you check the Task Manager sometimes ?
Would you know whether Speedstep kicks in usually and if yes, what the decrease is ?
With my Wolfdale's 3.0 GHz, Speedstep makes it go down to 2.0 Ghz.
And does it show how busy the 4 cores are when you do stuff ?
I ask because on my dual core, I can see very well that both cores are round about equally busy sometimes.
Having read that the usage of all 4 cores is very depending on the software that is being used.
That's why apparently the majority of PC games don't use more than 2 cores.
I'm rather happy that I won't have to be worried about too high temps.
Having two Wolfdales under the hood does not seem to double the heat.
And the few performance charts I could find about the quad, showing about 25 to 30% faster processing at certain tasks, encouraged me to go for the quad.
The E8400 (E0) cost here where I live 138.59 Euro and the Q9550 (E0) 194.83 Euro. | My System Specs | | OS Windos 7 x64 CPU Q9550 Yorkfield Motherboard Zotac GeForce 9300 ITX Memory G.Skill 2 x 4 GB Graphics Card on board Sound Card on board Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 2493HM Screen Resolution 1920 x 1200 Keyboard Saitek Eclipse Mouse Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse PSU PicoPSU 150-XT + 150W 12.5A AC-DC adapter Case Lian Li PC-Q07 in Silver Cooling Xilence CPU cooler XQ Hard Drives Intel X25-M SSD Internet Speed 4 MB Other Info Don't talk if you can't improve the silence. Wolfdale or Yorkfield ? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:25 AM. |  |