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Windows 7 - Two drives with the same volume serial number |
08-01-2011
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Two drives with the same volume serial number I just noticed that two of my hard drives (one is the boot drive, and both are internal SATA drives that are always running when Windows (Windows 7 64) is) have the same volume serial number. I'm talking about the 8 hex digits assigned by Windows when a primary partition is formatted as a drive, not the hardware serial number from the manufacturer. The two volumes are each the first primary partition of separate physical drives.
The odds of it happening by chance are miniscule, so I guess this must have happened when I imaged one to the other. That last happened over a year ago, and I haven't had any problems, so apparently it's not a fatal error. But still, it seems like if Windows can't tell my boot drive from my data drive, an accident is waiting to happen.
Should I try to fix this, or is the fact that they are on different physical drives mean that there is no way Windows can get confused?
CAN I fix this? I'm comfortable editing the registry, and I have a sector editor to edit data on the disk directly, but I can't find the serial number on the disk, plus I'm worried that I may break something if I change the serial of my data drive without going through Windows.
Also, how can I make sure this doesn't happen again when doing an image copy? I'm not sure whether this happened using Acronis or Paragon.
Any tips greatly appreciated.
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08-01-2011
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X86 SP1 |
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What is giving you the serial numbers? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Brittechnologies II OS Windows 7 Ultimate X86 SP1 CPU i5-2550K differing speeds depending on the day Motherboard ASUS P8X68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB G.Skill Sniper 2133MHz, 4X4GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Onboard Realtek 5-1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570HD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Old Dell USB From 10 yrs Ago Mouse Gigabyte m6900 wired PSU Corsair HX650W Case Inwin Dragon rider Cooling Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans @1300 RPM Hard Drives TBA Internet Speed 8-19 Mbs down, 3-4 Mbs up Comcast Cable Other Info 5 fans, LG Bluray/R/RE, ASUS DVD/R/RW |
08-01-2011
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#3 | | Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium SP1 |
You can see your Volume Serial Numbers by going to Start > All Programs > Accessories > System Tools > System Information > Components > Storage > Drives.
It is very unusual for 2 volumes to have the same serial number. These numbers are generated when a "disk" or volume is formatted. Your hypothesis that the image caused this may be correct.
The safest, easiest way to correct the condition would be to copy all your data on the volume that you want to change to an external drive, or another drive/volume, then format the drive/volume. A new, unique Volume Serial Number should be generated. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DESKTOP - Home Built - March 2009 OS Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium SP1 CPU i7-920 Motherboard Asus P6T - Bios 1408 Memory Corsair TR3X6G1333C9 - 6GB Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX260+ - Driver 296.10 Sound Card On board Realtek ACL1200 Monitor(s) Displays Dell 2007FP Screen Resolution 1280 x 960 Keyboard MS KC-0405 Mouse Intellimouse 5-button PSU Corsair CMPSU-750TX - 750 watt Case Lian Li PC-K10B Cooling Standard, 3 120mm case fans Hard Drives #1- Western Digital WD6401AALS Sata Black
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08-01-2011
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Windows uses another ID, called the disk signature, to uniquely identify physical disk drives. It is these signatures that cannot collide. Volume Serial Numbers do not have to be unique, though I believe software uses them for licensing purposes, so it is a good idea to keep the VSN the same when cloning or restoring from an image - there the assumption is made that the old drive will be discarded or reformatted and given a different VSN. I don't think having duplicate VSN has any harmful effects. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built (GeneO industries)/Model 2 OS Windows 7 64 bit SP1 CPU i5 2500k @ 4.5 GHz, 1.256V 120 GFlop (with AVX) Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB (4GBx4) 1600MHz G.skill Ripjaws X 8-8-8-24 Graphics Card Asus Nvidia ENGTS450, 1GB 4030 MHz DDR5 clock, 915 Mhz GPU Sound Card Onboard Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays NEC Spectraview 2490WUXi-SV Screen Resolution 1920 x 1200 Keyboard HP Wireless Mouse HP wireless PSU Antec TruePower New 650W Case Fractal Design "Define R3" Cooling CM Hyper 212+ push/pull, 5 120mm, 1 140mm case fans Hard Drives Crucial 128GB M4 (system), 2x WD Caviar 1TB Black internal (data), 1x Seagate 750G Barracuda Internal (backups), 1x WD Blue 6Gb/s 320GB Internal, 1x Corsair F40 SSD for cache, 1x 2TB eSata WD20EARS Green, 2x 500GB Seagate external USB, 1x 350GB exte Internet Speed 25.7 Mb/s down, 4.5 Mb/s up Other Info USB 3.0 x4 , SATA III x4, eSATA x3, SATA II x4, USB 2.0 x8. 2 Samsung DVD R/W drives.
WEI: CPU 7.7, Memory 7.9, Graphics 7.4, Disk 7.9 |
08-01-2011
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Quote: Originally Posted by TVeblen You can see your Volume Serial Numbers by going to Start > All Programs > Accessories > System Tools > System Information > Components > Storage > Drives. Correct, and the two drives have the same VSN numbers, but are on different physical hard drives. The VSNs of my other drives (I have three physical drives which are each partitioned to have three or four logical drives) are all unique. | My System Specs | | |
08-01-2011
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Quote: Originally Posted by GeneO Windows uses another ID, called the disk signature, to uniquely identify physical disk drives. It is these signatures that cannot collide. I assume you are talking about the four bytes at offset x1B8 in the MBR. Those are unique for me. Quote: Volume Serial Numbers do not have to be unique, though I believe software uses them for licensing purposes, so it is a good idea to keep the VSN the same when cloning or restoring from an image - there the assumption is made that the old drive will be discarded or reformatted and given a different VSN. I don't think having duplicate VSN has any harmful effects. I think you must be right, because I looked through the old reports from my disk cataloger, and I've had several duplicate VSNs in the past, probably going back several years, and no problems that I'm aware of. So I guess I won't worry about this until the next time I format or image a drive.
Thanks to everyone for the responses. | My System Specs | | |
08-01-2011
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Quote: Originally Posted by brocks 
Quote: Originally Posted by GeneO Windows uses another ID, called the disk signature, to uniquely identify physical disk drives. It is these signatures that cannot collide. I assume you are talking about the four bytes at offset x1B8 in the MBR. Those are unique for me. Quote: Volume Serial Numbers do not have to be unique, though I believe software uses them for licensing purposes, so it is a good idea to keep the VSN the same when cloning or restoring from an image - there the assumption is made that the old drive will be discarded or reformatted and given a different VSN. I don't think having duplicate VSN has any harmful effects. I think you must be right, because I looked through the old reports from my disk cataloger, and I've had several duplicate VSNs in the past, probably going back several years, and no problems that I'm aware of. So I guess I won't worry about this until the next time I format or image a drive.
Thanks to everyone for the responses. Yes, the 32 bit ID in the MBR. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built (GeneO industries)/Model 2 OS Windows 7 64 bit SP1 CPU i5 2500k @ 4.5 GHz, 1.256V 120 GFlop (with AVX) Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB (4GBx4) 1600MHz G.skill Ripjaws X 8-8-8-24 Graphics Card Asus Nvidia ENGTS450, 1GB 4030 MHz DDR5 clock, 915 Mhz GPU Sound Card Onboard Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays NEC Spectraview 2490WUXi-SV Screen Resolution 1920 x 1200 Keyboard HP Wireless Mouse HP wireless PSU Antec TruePower New 650W Case Fractal Design "Define R3" Cooling CM Hyper 212+ push/pull, 5 120mm, 1 140mm case fans Hard Drives Crucial 128GB M4 (system), 2x WD Caviar 1TB Black internal (data), 1x Seagate 750G Barracuda Internal (backups), 1x WD Blue 6Gb/s 320GB Internal, 1x Corsair F40 SSD for cache, 1x 2TB eSata WD20EARS Green, 2x 500GB Seagate external USB, 1x 350GB exte Internet Speed 25.7 Mb/s down, 4.5 Mb/s up Other Info USB 3.0 x4 , SATA III x4, eSATA x3, SATA II x4, USB 2.0 x8. 2 Samsung DVD R/W drives.
WEI: CPU 7.7, Memory 7.9, Graphics 7.4, Disk 7.9 |
11-14-2011
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Use "DiskPart" in a command shell or powershell tofind the drives "Signature", which is the Unique ID that each drive must have. The "Volume Serial Number" is NOT the same as the "UniqueID" or signature. Here is what you need to type to get what you want.
run cmd.exe
DiskPart
List Disk (To list the disks in your PC)
Select Disk X (Where X is the disk you want to see)
UniqueID Disk
It will reply with something like this:
Disk ID: FA30143E | My System Specs | | |
11-15-2011
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I had this problem when I copied a whole disk with partitions to an equivalently identical disk. Not sure of the problems I had but it did require changing the disk ID. I can't find the option to change it but I'm pretty sure I managed it via Disk Management. It might have been that I did this via Partition Magic on my XP system however - just can't rmember, sorry. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP desktop OS Windows 7 x64 SP1 CPU Athlon II x2 215 Memory 4.0 GB Graphics Card Onboard Sound Card Creative SB X-Fi Titanium HD (nice) Monitor(s) Displays 20" LCD Screen Resolution 1600 x 900 Keyboard USB Mouse USB PSU 430w Hard Drives 320 GB, 500 GB and 750 GB 7200 rpm Internet Speed approx 10 Mbps |
01-06-2012
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