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Windows 7 - Multi Format Internal DVD Player |
08-06-2011
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#1 | | W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE |
Multi Format Internal DVD Player Since many of the movies that I would like to buy are only in PAL, instead of NTSC format, I would like to buy a internal player that will use either format. It seems that everything that I have found is either external, or the description in the specs is obscure on this point. Does what I want exist?
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY OS W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE CPU Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3 Motherboard ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI Memory 2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS Graphics Card EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS Sound Card Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1 Monitor(s) Displays Acer X233H, Dell E152FPc /**LG M237-WD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1024x768/**1980x1080 Keyboard Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse Mouse Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto PSU CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000 Case HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB Cooling 3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans Hard Drives WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black Internet Speed 3.3Mbps Other Info SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
(** = 2nd rig) |
08-06-2011
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As PAL and NTSC are video standards rather than file standards, all drives being capable to play both if the region on drive firmware is set correctly, I think that the easiest way would be to buy and use two internal DVD drives, one's region set to America (NTSC) and the other's region set to Europe (PAL).
I have not heard of region free internal DVD players.
Kari | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP ENVY 17-1150eg OS Windows 7 x64 Ultimate CPU 1.6 GHz Intel Core i7-720QM Processor Memory 6 GB Graphics Card ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850 Graphics Sound Card Beats sound system with integrated subwoofer Monitor(s) Displays 17" laptop display, 22" LCD and 32" Full HD TV through HDMI Screen Resolution 1600*900, 1680*1050 and 1920*1080 Keyboard Logitech diNovo Media Desktop Laser (bluetooth) Mouse Logitech MX1000 Laser (Bluetooth) Hard Drives Internal: 2 x 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
External: 2TB for backups, 3TB USB3 network drive for media Internet Speed 50/10 Mbps VDSL Other Info Windows 7 Ultimate Retail Full in English, additional Guest-user accounts in Finnish, German and Swedish (Working languages English & Swedish, Family language German, my own language, mother tongue, Finnish. I really need Ultimate to get to use Language Packs!) |
08-06-2011
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Isn't there an app that can remove the region code from the playing DVD? Not remove the code physically, but tells the system that the DVD that is playing is a Region 1 disc? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HAL-9000 OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit CPU Intel i7 2600K @ 4.44Ghz Motherboard Asus P8P67 Pro Rev 3.1 Memory 16GB DDR3 1333 Corsair XMS3 Graphics Card XFX HD5850 1GB EyeFinity Sound Card Logitech G35 & Sennheiser PC135 & VIA HD Monitor(s) Displays 23" HP 2310e, 23" Samsung B2230, 21.5" Viewsonic Screen Resolution 5760x1080 Keyboard Logitech G15 and G13 Mouse Logitech G700 Gaming Mouse PSU Antec True Power New 650watt Case Cooler Master HAF-932 Cooling Corsair H60 Hydro Cooler, 3x 230mm Fans, 2x120mm Fan Hard Drives 16TB of Storage
128GB & 256GB Crucial M4 SSD's, 2X 1TB WD Black, 3x 2TB WD, 3x 2TB Samsung F4, 1.5TB Seagate, WD 500GB, Internet Speed 50/10 Mbit Other Info Speakers : Alesis M1 Active Mk2 Studio Monitors , APC RS 1200 UPS, HP 4500DN Color Laser, HP P1006 mono Laser, Kodak 8500 Dye-Sub, Epson 1280 inkjet, Epson Worforce 610 MFC |
08-06-2011
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#4 | | W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE |

Quote: Originally Posted by Kari As PAL and NTSC are video standards rather than file standards, all drives being capable to play both if the region on drive firmware is set correctly, I think that the easiest way would be to buy and use two internal DVD drives, one's region set to America (NTSC) and the other's region set to Europe (PAL).
I have not heard of region free internal DVD players.
Kari If I can't find what I want, then that is what I will do. Thanks. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY OS W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE CPU Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3 Motherboard ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI Memory 2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS Graphics Card EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS Sound Card Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1 Monitor(s) Displays Acer X233H, Dell E152FPc /**LG M237-WD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1024x768/**1980x1080 Keyboard Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse Mouse Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto PSU CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000 Case HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB Cooling 3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans Hard Drives WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black Internet Speed 3.3Mbps Other Info SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
(** = 2nd rig) |
08-06-2011
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#5 | | W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE |

Quote: Originally Posted by Zepher Isn't there an app that can remove the region code from the playing DVD? Not remove the code physically, but tells the system that the DVD that is playing is a Region 1 disc? The problem is that the region and the format are two different things. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY OS W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE CPU Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3 Motherboard ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI Memory 2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS Graphics Card EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS Sound Card Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1 Monitor(s) Displays Acer X233H, Dell E152FPc /**LG M237-WD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1024x768/**1980x1080 Keyboard Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse Mouse Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto PSU CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000 Case HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB Cooling 3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans Hard Drives WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black Internet Speed 3.3Mbps Other Info SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
(** = 2nd rig) |
08-06-2011
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I googled and found this, dvdunlocker.net - DVD Region Unlock Codes. Unlock DVD Player Region Codes
maybe this will work for you.
or this one, http://www.slysoft.com/en/anydvd.html
EDIT: Any DVD basically makes your PC a region free player, so this will work for you. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HAL-9000 OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit CPU Intel i7 2600K @ 4.44Ghz Motherboard Asus P8P67 Pro Rev 3.1 Memory 16GB DDR3 1333 Corsair XMS3 Graphics Card XFX HD5850 1GB EyeFinity Sound Card Logitech G35 & Sennheiser PC135 & VIA HD Monitor(s) Displays 23" HP 2310e, 23" Samsung B2230, 21.5" Viewsonic Screen Resolution 5760x1080 Keyboard Logitech G15 and G13 Mouse Logitech G700 Gaming Mouse PSU Antec True Power New 650watt Case Cooler Master HAF-932 Cooling Corsair H60 Hydro Cooler, 3x 230mm Fans, 2x120mm Fan Hard Drives 16TB of Storage
128GB & 256GB Crucial M4 SSD's, 2X 1TB WD Black, 3x 2TB WD, 3x 2TB Samsung F4, 1.5TB Seagate, WD 500GB, Internet Speed 50/10 Mbit Other Info Speakers : Alesis M1 Active Mk2 Studio Monitors , APC RS 1200 UPS, HP 4500DN Color Laser, HP P1006 mono Laser, Kodak 8500 Dye-Sub, Epson 1280 inkjet, Epson Worforce 610 MFC |
08-06-2011
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#7 | | W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE |

Quote: Originally Posted by Zepher I googled and found this, dvdunlocker.net - DVD Region Unlock Codes. Unlock DVD Player Region Codes
maybe this will work for you.
or this one, SlySoft AnyDVD | any dvd, region free, dvd copy, copy dvd movies, dvd decoder, dvd ripper, macrovision, dvd copying software
EDIT: Any DVD basically makes your PC a region free player, so this will work for you. Thanks, but unfortunately none of my drives are on the compatibility list for the unlocker on your first link, so I guess that it isn't a solution. As for AnyDVD, that removes the codes via encoding, making a file that is playable, which DVDFab 8 will also do, and I already have it.
I found the following on Wikipedia: Quote: PAL/SECAM vs. NTSC
DVDs are also formatted for use on two conflicting regional television systems: 525/60 (NTSC) or 625/50 (PAL/SECAM). Strictly speaking, NTSC, PAL and SECAM are all analog chroma-encoding formats which have no relevance in the digital domain (as evident in the conflation of PAL and SECAM, which are actually two very different analog color systems). These terms continue to be used (improperly) as a method of identifying refresh rates and vertical resolution.
NTSC is the analog color TV format historically associated with Canada, Japan, Mexico, Philippines, Taiwan, United States and other countries. PAL is the analog color TV format historically associated with most of Europe, most of Africa, China, India, Australia, New Zealand, Israel, North Korea, and other countries (and Brazil, but using the refresh rate and resolution commonly associated with NTSC). Some DVD players only play discs identified as NTSC or PAL, while others can play both standards.[9]
In general, it is easier for consumers in PAL countries to view NTSC DVDs than vice versa. Almost all DVD players sold in PAL countries play both kinds of discs, and most modern PAL TVs can handle the converted signal. However, most NTSC players cannot play PAL discs, and most NTSC TVs do not work with PAL video. Those in NTSC countries, such as in North America, generally require both a region-free, multi-standard player and multi-standard television to view PAL discs, or a converter box, whereas those in PAL countries generally require only a region-free player. There are also differences in pixel aspect ratio (720 × 480 vs. 720 × 576) and display frame rate (29.97 vs. 25). Again, NTSC discs play on over 95%[citation needed] of DVD systems worldwide, while PAL discs play on very few players outside of PAL countries.[9]
As of 2008, NTSC players and TV's are becoming increasingly capable of playing PAL/SECAM discs, thus beginning to equalize the ability for PAL machines to play NTSC discs and vice-versa. Needless to say, this reduces the need for a multi-region, standard player and TV (or converter box) to view either discs. Now consumers in both countries will most-likely require only a region-free player to view discs from anywhere across the globe (though a converter box or multi-standard system may be necessary if your TV and player can't handle a different format).
Most DVD PC software and hardware can play both NTSC and PAL video and both audio standards. Although it sounds as though my drives may play the videos, I won't be certain until I try. Still, even if the DVD drive plays it, I'm wondering if the monitor will display it, since the FPS and refresh rate is different? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY OS W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE CPU Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3 Motherboard ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI Memory 2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS Graphics Card EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS Sound Card Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1 Monitor(s) Displays Acer X233H, Dell E152FPc /**LG M237-WD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1024x768/**1980x1080 Keyboard Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse Mouse Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto PSU CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000 Case HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB Cooling 3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans Hard Drives WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black Internet Speed 3.3Mbps Other Info SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
(** = 2nd rig) |
08-06-2011
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Quote: Originally Posted by seekermeister As for AnyDVD, that removes the codes via encoding, making a file that is playable, which DVDFab 8 will also do, and I already have it. I think that's false.
I haven't tried to use it to play any DVDs from outside my region (1), but I have used it to help copy a protected disk. I actually used a third party package (Nero) to do the copying. AnyDVD allowed the utility to copy the disk as if it wasn't protected.
Itr might be preferable to install a hacked firmware on the drive to remove the region restrictions. It may be cheaper to buy a drive that has such firware available than to spring for AnyDVD.
Last edited by bobkn; 08-06-2011 at 11:38 PM..
Reason: typo
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Samsung SH-203B
Monsoon 5.1 speakers |
08-07-2011
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#9 | | W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE |
I'm not exactly certain to what you are objecting to. AnyDVD says themselves that they remove region codes, although it is not exactly clear as to when it does it. I'm assuming that it is when it encodes a DVD, making a file on the PC. If that is so, then I assume that if one burned that file back to a DVD, that it would remain region free. However, burning back to a DVD is not what I'm interested in. I only want to either play a DVD directly, using the internal DVD drive on the PC, and/or encode it to a PC file. If the drive will work with a DVD, then encoding it is no problem. The only question that remains is if the TV/monitor will display it. On the desktop, I just have a monitor, but on the HTPC I have a TV working as a monitor. The latter is what I'm most concerned about, because that is the ultimate target for the video files. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY OS W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE CPU Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3 Motherboard ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI Memory 2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS Graphics Card EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS Sound Card Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1 Monitor(s) Displays Acer X233H, Dell E152FPc /**LG M237-WD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1024x768/**1980x1080 Keyboard Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse Mouse Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto PSU CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000 Case HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB Cooling 3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans Hard Drives WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black Internet Speed 3.3Mbps Other Info SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
(** = 2nd rig) |
08-07-2011
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from what I was reading on the forum, AnyDVD will remove the region code on the DVD that is playing so that the PC sees the DVD as a region free disc.
Pop in the disc, AnyDVD intercepts the Region code and tells the PC that the disc is region free and you can play it with your DVD player program.
Shoot them an email to confirm or find a trial if you can. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HAL-9000 OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit CPU Intel i7 2600K @ 4.44Ghz Motherboard Asus P8P67 Pro Rev 3.1 Memory 16GB DDR3 1333 Corsair XMS3 Graphics Card XFX HD5850 1GB EyeFinity Sound Card Logitech G35 & Sennheiser PC135 & VIA HD Monitor(s) Displays 23" HP 2310e, 23" Samsung B2230, 21.5" Viewsonic Screen Resolution 5760x1080 Keyboard Logitech G15 and G13 Mouse Logitech G700 Gaming Mouse PSU Antec True Power New 650watt Case Cooler Master HAF-932 Cooling Corsair H60 Hydro Cooler, 3x 230mm Fans, 2x120mm Fan Hard Drives 16TB of Storage
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