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08-18-2011
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SSD and AHCI Recently it was suggested to me that AHCI doesn't offer enough benefit to be particularly worthwhile. That's fine. Am ok to turn it off.
I have purchased a new SSD drive - OCZ Vertex 3 120gb. I will format it as a single partition.
On the OCZ site it said to disable AHCI as it can cause problems. On another website it implied that trim wont work unless it's on, and of course NCQ wont work as that's an AHCI feature.
The question is - who is right? Do I leave AHCI off, or must I turn it on if I want the best from my SSD?
Pro AHCI tips and tricks for installing Win 7 on a brand new SSD - Overclockers Forums
Anti AHCI http://www.ocztechnology.com/res_old...ng-Up-SSDs.pdf
thanks
Tanya | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Made OS Windows 7 Ultimate x 64 CPU Intel I5-2500K B3 running @ OC 4.0ghz Motherboard ASRock Extreme 4 Z77 Memory 16GB G-Skill CL9Q @ 2133 (BZH) Graphics Card Gigabyte GTX460 1g DDR5 Sound Card Soundblaster XFI-fatality Monitor(s) Displays Benq G2420HD LCD (DVI) + Benq GL2440 LED (HDMI) Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard wireless Logitech 110 Mouse Wireless Logitech 110 PSU 650W Thermaltake Case Antec 900 TWO Cooling Noctua NH-U9B-SE Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 3 120 GB SATA 3
WD WD1000EARX SATA 3 1TB Internet Speed ADSL 2+ 20.0mpbs Other Info Blu-Ray writer; PC Connects to DSL-526B through a DIR-655 router using cat6 cable throughout; Internet via Dodo - Very unstable. |
08-18-2011
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#2 | | Windows 7 X64 Professional/Windows 8 |
I am not sure about that article, and have never seen it before. It has no date on it and if you will notice it makes constant reference to Vista SP1 and XP. Which would indicate it is an older article. The problem with OCZ Forums is determining whether the articles you read are about Gen 1, Gen 2 and Gen 3 devices. It can be rather confusing and they are not separated on the forums. And it makes a big difference in how they are handled. I have a Vertex2 in AHCI and it works great and i get expected numbers. I also have an Intel X25-M and 2 Crucial M4's. They are also in AHCI mode. Most everyone I am aware of are running their drives in AHCI without issue.
EDIT: Most people report better performance in AHCI over IDE. I know some say they see no difference, but most do. Some problems arise in doing a secure erase. Most programs I am aware of that do a secure erase require the drive to be 'Hot Plugged' to unfreeze the drive so a secure erase can be done. As far as I know, Hot Plugging is not supported in IDE mode but is supported in AHCI. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Brew - Always under construction OS Windows 7 X64 Professional/Windows 8 CPU intel i7-2600K Motherboard Asus P8Z68 V-Pro/GEN 3 Memory 8GB G.Skill Sniper DDR3-2133 (2X4GB) Graphics Card EVGA 670 2GB Sound Card Asus Xonar Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24" LCD VW246H Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech G500/Logitech Wireless PSU CORSAIR HX850W Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Corsair H100 w/ 4 noctua fans in push/pull. Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB,Crucial M4 64GB,Samsung HD103SJ 1TB, 1TB WD FAEX,Samsung 1.5TB, EXTERNAL HD- 2X Rosewill case esata w/ 1TB Samsung spinpoints & Black X esata 1TB Spinpoint, Rosewill USB 3.0 dock 1TB Spinpoint, Seagate GOFlex Pro 500GB & 750GB USB Internet Speed Foot Messenger speed Other Info 2nd Computer- Samsung RF711-SO1 17" Laptop i5-2310M, 8GB DDR3-1333, Crucial M4 and OCZ vertex2, Nvidia GT540M.Win 7 HP X64. |
08-18-2011
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Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe Most everyone I am aware of are running their drives in AHCI without issue. Ok. I'll install in AHCI mode and see how I go..
Hopefully be back online tomorrow.. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Made OS Windows 7 Ultimate x 64 CPU Intel I5-2500K B3 running @ OC 4.0ghz Motherboard ASRock Extreme 4 Z77 Memory 16GB G-Skill CL9Q @ 2133 (BZH) Graphics Card Gigabyte GTX460 1g DDR5 Sound Card Soundblaster XFI-fatality Monitor(s) Displays Benq G2420HD LCD (DVI) + Benq GL2440 LED (HDMI) Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard wireless Logitech 110 Mouse Wireless Logitech 110 PSU 650W Thermaltake Case Antec 900 TWO Cooling Noctua NH-U9B-SE Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 3 120 GB SATA 3
WD WD1000EARX SATA 3 1TB Internet Speed ADSL 2+ 20.0mpbs Other Info Blu-Ray writer; PC Connects to DSL-526B through a DIR-655 router using cat6 cable throughout; Internet via Dodo - Very unstable. |
08-18-2011
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Nothing wrong with using AHCI at all. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Me OS 7 Ultimate x64 CPU i5 2500K 4.7 Ghz Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Gen 3 Memory 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws X 2133mhz Graphics Card Asus GTX 580 DirectCU II Sound Card X-FI Forte 7.1 + ATH-AD900 Headphones Monitor(s) Displays x2 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung / "40 Sony Screen Resolution 1920*1200 / 1920*1080 Keyboard Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine MX Black // Filco Ninja TKL Mouse Razer Imperator + Razer Lachesis PSU Corsair AX1200W Case Lian Li PC-V1020A Cooling Noctua NH-D14: 3x140mm Gelid Wing 14 : Noctua NF-P12 120mm Hard Drives 2x Intel 520 240GB * Crucial M4 128GB * 2x Samsung F3 1TB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0) Other Info Laptop Specs:
Clevo Sager P170HM //
17.3 Matte 1920x1200 //
i7 2720QM // 8GB 1333mhz //
Dedicated GTX 485M //
240GB Intel 520 + 750GB + Blu-Ray //
Samsung Story 2TB USB 3.0 |
08-18-2011
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#5 | | Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bit |
You will/may need this tutorial. Turn on AHCI first in Windows then in the Bios as explained in tutorial. AHCI : Enable in Windows 7 / Vista
This is a good all around tutorial if you wish to double check your steps, alignment etc. SSD - Install and transfer the Operating System
Mike | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Hopalong/ Godzilla OS Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bit CPU Intel Core i7-870 Lynnfield 2.93GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Motherboard ASUS P7P55D-E PRO Memory 8GB@1400MHz Crucial Ballistix DDR3-1600 4x2GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 Sound Card VIA Onboard Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 941BW 19"ws Screen Resolution 1440x900 Keyboard Logitech K-320 PSU COOLER MASTER Silent Pro RS850-AMBAJ3-US 850W Modular Case COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN5-GP Black Cooling Scythe "Mugen-2 Rev.B" (2 ScytheKaze-Jyuni PWM fans) Hard Drives Intel 320 120GB SSD
Western Digital Caviar Black WD7501AALS 750GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s |
08-18-2011
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#6 | | Windows 7 X64 Professional/Windows 8 |
Tanyam, Let us know how it goes. And don't over tweek the system. Windows does a good job of setting things up pretty well. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Brew - Always under construction OS Windows 7 X64 Professional/Windows 8 CPU intel i7-2600K Motherboard Asus P8Z68 V-Pro/GEN 3 Memory 8GB G.Skill Sniper DDR3-2133 (2X4GB) Graphics Card EVGA 670 2GB Sound Card Asus Xonar Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24" LCD VW246H Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech G500/Logitech Wireless PSU CORSAIR HX850W Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Corsair H100 w/ 4 noctua fans in push/pull. Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB,Crucial M4 64GB,Samsung HD103SJ 1TB, 1TB WD FAEX,Samsung 1.5TB, EXTERNAL HD- 2X Rosewill case esata w/ 1TB Samsung spinpoints & Black X esata 1TB Spinpoint, Rosewill USB 3.0 dock 1TB Spinpoint, Seagate GOFlex Pro 500GB & 750GB USB Internet Speed Foot Messenger speed Other Info 2nd Computer- Samsung RF711-SO1 17" Laptop i5-2310M, 8GB DDR3-1333, Crucial M4 and OCZ vertex2, Nvidia GT540M.Win 7 HP X64. |
08-18-2011
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 |
I was always told that AHCI needed to be enabled for Windows 7 to auto-detect the fact you were using an SSD and configure itself accordingly. Not that IDE mode wouldn't work, but then you'd have to configure the OS manually for the SSD drive. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7-2600 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3P-B3 Memory 12 GB Patriot Extreme DDR3-1333 Graphics Card Nvidia GTX 470 Monitor(s) Displays Dell UltraSharp 2209WA PSU OCZ ModStream 700W Case CoolerMaster HAF 912 Advanced Cooling CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus Hard Drives OCZ Agility3 240 GB, WD5001AALS, WD7501AALS |
08-18-2011
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#8 | | Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bit |
DeaconFrost
I installed my Intel in IDE mode then switched Windows to AHCI then the Bios per WHS tutorial I posted above.
Windows did recognize and install SATA drivers for the SSD in the beginning.
I was setting an Image.
Fresh install from Windows disk I'm not sure????
I can't find anything in our forum tutorials one way or the other. Strange. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Hopalong/ Godzilla OS Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bit CPU Intel Core i7-870 Lynnfield 2.93GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Motherboard ASUS P7P55D-E PRO Memory 8GB@1400MHz Crucial Ballistix DDR3-1600 4x2GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 Sound Card VIA Onboard Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 941BW 19"ws Screen Resolution 1440x900 Keyboard Logitech K-320 PSU COOLER MASTER Silent Pro RS850-AMBAJ3-US 850W Modular Case COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN5-GP Black Cooling Scythe "Mugen-2 Rev.B" (2 ScytheKaze-Jyuni PWM fans) Hard Drives Intel 320 120GB SSD
Western Digital Caviar Black WD7501AALS 750GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s |
08-18-2011
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#9 | | Windows 7 X64 Professional/Windows 8 |
You can enable AHCI to do a clean install. If you clone the old OS or restore an image, they don't have the AHCI drivers in them. If you clean install in AHCI mode, they are installed during the OS install. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Brew - Always under construction OS Windows 7 X64 Professional/Windows 8 CPU intel i7-2600K Motherboard Asus P8Z68 V-Pro/GEN 3 Memory 8GB G.Skill Sniper DDR3-2133 (2X4GB) Graphics Card EVGA 670 2GB Sound Card Asus Xonar Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24" LCD VW246H Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech G500/Logitech Wireless PSU CORSAIR HX850W Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Corsair H100 w/ 4 noctua fans in push/pull. Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB,Crucial M4 64GB,Samsung HD103SJ 1TB, 1TB WD FAEX,Samsung 1.5TB, EXTERNAL HD- 2X Rosewill case esata w/ 1TB Samsung spinpoints & Black X esata 1TB Spinpoint, Rosewill USB 3.0 dock 1TB Spinpoint, Seagate GOFlex Pro 500GB & 750GB USB Internet Speed Foot Messenger speed Other Info 2nd Computer- Samsung RF711-SO1 17" Laptop i5-2310M, 8GB DDR3-1333, Crucial M4 and OCZ vertex2, Nvidia GT540M.Win 7 HP X64. |
08-18-2011
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#10 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 |
Yes, on a fresh install with AHCI enabled before the install, the drive is setup properly and the OS configures itself accordingly. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7-2600 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3P-B3 Memory 12 GB Patriot Extreme DDR3-1333 Graphics Card Nvidia GTX 470 Monitor(s) Displays Dell UltraSharp 2209WA PSU OCZ ModStream 700W Case CoolerMaster HAF 912 Advanced Cooling CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus Hard Drives OCZ Agility3 240 GB, WD5001AALS, WD7501AALS All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:57 AM. |  |