Security Cameras

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  1. Posts : 740
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
       #71

    True it isn't wireless, I didnt realise this was a requirement since you were putting it on the balcony instead of in the car, or perhaps you dont have support for a composite input on your PC.

    Besides I just read the review on it and it mentions the IR's appear as two menacing rings when used, although this would be a good deterrent, it's also something you wanted to avoid (no one can stop you filming within the public domain). At least thats the way it is here....

    I dont know much about cameras but the 4-9mm is the lens aperture, the viewing angle is 60 Degrees.
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  2. Posts : 6,618
    W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
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       #72

    The primary reason that I want wireless, is because I don't want to have to drill any holes in the wall for the cable to pass through. However, I don't have any composite inputs to the PC either...unless the TV Tuner has them...can't remember. It is just that wireless seems like the easiest way to accomplish the purpose. As far as aperture-viewing angle goes, the two are directly tied together. The higher the aperture, the narrower the viewing angle. For it to be of use at 100+ feet, the aperture must be 9mm or greater. I'm guessing that 9mm would give about a 30 degree viewing angle, and a 12mm would give a 27 degree viewing angle. Actually, I would prefer a narrower angle than that, but have never found it available.

    Perhaps glowing LEDs would be a good deterrent, but with the mood that I'm in now, I would prefer to simply get photos of the culprits in action, and that would be more likely if they never noticed the camera.
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  3. Posts : 7,878
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
       #73

    Saw this local story on the news last night and thought of this thread.

    Detroit Home Invasion Caught On Video - Detroit Local News Story - WDIV Detroit

    More or less, somebody put up their own cameras, they were robbed, thieves took stuff, and now they are trying to identify who did it. I'm unsure why these burglars don't simply wear masks and disguises...
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  4. Posts : 327
    Windows 7 Professional X64 Service Pack 1
       #74

    seekermeister said:
    You must be referring to some other model than the one that I have, because as far as I know, it has no audio capability. For me, that is not important, because the audio range for the cameras that I read about this feature on, were too limited to be any use to me. Now if one had a parabolic microphone that could hear normal conversation 100 feet or more away, then that would be great.
    It is a different model, F18918w, however the comment was more to the manufacturer and how they handle problems and treat customers, as you found out.
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  5. Posts : 6,618
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       #75

    I've just about given up on my quest to find a security camera that would serve my purposes, because it appears that if such a critter exists, it is out of my price range. I called one vendor that I found online, primarily because they have a page on their website saying that they would not sell any wireless security cameras, because there were no good ones.

    That alone is enough to deter me from going wireless, but the same vendor said that at the range that I need it to work, it would need a lens that would zoom in to only a 5 degree field of vision, for obtaining details of clarity sufficient for legal identification of a vandal or thief. I have not found a camera of that specification, but if I did, I would imagine that the price would be very hefty.
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  6. Posts : 1,939
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Steve Ballmer Signature Edition
       #76

    Something else I dont think anyone mentioned regarding wireless cams... if the theives are neighbors or friends of neighbors, they will know you have mounted a camera and will either destroy it or steal it!

    IMHO... You are better off buying a good car alarm!
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  7. Posts : 6,618
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       #77

    You may well be right, but the memory of car alarms constantly going off for no good reason, when I lived in Southern California, put a bad taste in my mouth for them. That and all that they really do at best, is to scare off a thief, without providing anything usable in court, and that is only if they don't know how to disable it, or cause enough ""false" alarms, that the owner turns it off.

    The fact that a good alarm is not very cheap, brings it worth into question.
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  8. Posts : 1,939
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Steve Ballmer Signature Edition
       #78

    25 years ago, as a college student, I worked as a car stereo/security installer. In my opinion the shop who does the install is the most important factor. If installed and adjusted properly, you should have no false alarms. Look into AutoPage alarms, they will alert you with a page if the alarm goes off.

    Theives are stupid lazy idiots, or they'd be doing something else. Usually the breakin and damage done to a vehicle is as expensive as the item(s) stolen, I'd much rather prevent the break-in all together than to have it all on tape.

    As for your comment regarding court, what is your actual reason for thinking a camera? My bet is to prevent the breakin and costs associated with that; over having grainy video that might be useful in identifying the theif(s).
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  9. Posts : 6,618
    W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
    Thread Starter
       #79

    I was tending toward a camera, because of the theft that caused me to post this thread in the first place, because I believe that I know who the thieves were, but had no proof. As far as the usefulness of a photo or video of the theft/thieves being worthwhile in court, that would depend on whether they were grainy or lacking detail, as you described. I think that some of the more expensive cameras do provide good quality videos that would do the job, but then that is an opinion, rather than a fact. The point is that I want something that would stop a thief as permanently as possible, not just something for them to continue playing their games with.

    EDIT: With an alarm, by the time that I awoke, if asleep, and was able to get to the vehicle, a thief would have had more than enough time to have stolen the vehicle and driven away.
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  10. Posts : 1,939
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Steve Ballmer Signature Edition
       #80

    Not if the alarm has a starter interrupt as most do today!

    Honestly, I believe in an apartment complex as you describe, anyone who is foolish enough to continue breaking into a car with an alarm sounding gets what they deserve.

    Alarm or camera... deterring the theives is the point isnt it? They will move on to an easier target!
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