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Windows 7 - Motherboard & CPU upgrade without re-install |
10-08-2011
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Motherboard & CPU upgrade without re-install I would like to upgrade my very old Conroe 1333-D667 motherboard currently fitted with a Pentium 4 3gig processor & Win 7 Ultimate. Could I have some suggestions as to what would be a reasonable new mobo upgrade with maybe something like an Intel (what type) dual core processor or suggested alternatives - I need the whole system to be a bit quicker. Most importantly though without having to re-install Win 7 in the process. I would probably have to stay with 32bit as this is what everything is now. The new board must have at least 1 IDE for my Plextor PX-870A DVD and at least 4 sata connections. There is so much stuff out there which makes the choice confusing. No megabucks please  Not looking forward to a re-install....
Suggestions please | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home brew OS Win 7 Ultimate x86 CPU Pentium 4 631 cedar mill 3.00Ghz - OC to 3.6 Motherboard Conroe 1333-D667 intel Memory 2x1gig Kingston pc2 5300 PSU 800 watts Cooling Pentium 4 cpu fan + 3 case fans Hard Drives 1x250Gb Western Digital WD2500 sata
2x500Gb Seagate ST3500 sata Internet Speed 8mb |
10-08-2011
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 |
Rogerfour, I hope you will not be dissapointed but something (my past experience with lots of pc's) tells me that due to severe configuration changes, your going to have to re-install windows 7. All the motherboard drivers, sata and ide drivers will be completely different. During the olden days with XP, it would work many times as the system would re-boot and load more drivers but windows 7 is normally not that forgiving about all the driver changes.
Also, I am sure that you will have to have windows 7 activated again.
but it could get exciting. and a learning experience.
There are commercial programs that cost money that might be able to do what you want but i don't recommend any.
Sorry
Rich | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba Laptop(s) A505-S6979 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core 2 Dual P8700 Memory 4 Gigs Graphics Card ATI 4650 w1Gig Hard Drives 64Gig SSD for C
256Gig SSD for D Internet Speed 25/5 fios Other Info I have dos 6.22, wfwg 3.11, win98, 2000 and xp VHD's available for testing. MS's Virtual PC works great. |
10-08-2011
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#3 | | Vista and Windows7, sometimes Ubuntu and Fedora |
Absolutely right - if you change the mobo you have to reinstall. There is no way around it. But ugrading such a museum model is probably not worth it. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway - 2 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista and Windows7, sometimes Ubuntu and Fedora CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to 2.5GHz Quad Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse terrible devices, who wants them Hard Drives 5x HDD, 2x SSD, 6x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
10-08-2011
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#5 | | windows 7 ultimate 64 bit |
I've changed the motherboard on this very system without doing a reinstall/repair....just a couple of reboots....but you WILL have to reactivate Windows again....a possible problem if your Windows is a OEM copy | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number homemade OS windows 7 ultimate 64 bit CPU amd x4 965 Hyper 212 plus 2 120mm 90cfm fans Motherboard Biostar A770E3 Memory 12 gig 4Gx2/2Gx2 Mushkin DDR3 1333 Graphics Card Sapphire 5850 Monitor(s) Displays hanns g 1680X1050 Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard z merc Mouse microsoft wireless 5000 PSU dual Antec 650 & Rosewill 530 watt continuous Case homemade Cooling 4 120mm@50cfm each/2 120mm@90cfm Hard Drives western digital ssd 64 gig + 2 junk Internet Speed dsl |
10-08-2011
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Ouch - thank you all for that valuable input..... sort of hard having to re-install so much software collected over the years but I guess it is what it is..... no easy way out. The chicken out option is to stay with what I have and both me and my overclocked museum computer will fade away together (I am a nerdy 70 yr old having come from second generation mainframe stuff a long time ago)  I will come back here if I decide to get brave and try something silly. I am actually looking forward to windows 8 | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home brew OS Win 7 Ultimate x86 CPU Pentium 4 631 cedar mill 3.00Ghz - OC to 3.6 Motherboard Conroe 1333-D667 intel Memory 2x1gig Kingston pc2 5300 PSU 800 watts Cooling Pentium 4 cpu fan + 3 case fans Hard Drives 1x250Gb Western Digital WD2500 sata
2x500Gb Seagate ST3500 sata Internet Speed 8mb |
10-08-2011
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As one poster suggested, it's worth a try to just fire up Windows after your upgrade and see what happens. A backup of your important data first would be wise.
A few weeks ago I changed from an AMD-based (785/710) chipset board with DDR2 and a Phenom II processor, to a Z68 board with DDR3 and an i5-2500K. Windows handled it fine. A reboot, that's fine and all that was necessary. That said, be prepared to go to your MB manufacturer's site and get the recommended chipset, LAN and audio drivers for your new board, and install them afterwards.
Surprisingly (since this computer is a triple-boot machine), Linux handled the change even better/quieter, without a sweat.
Worst case, if you encounter major problems, you can reinstall windows.
I had an OEM copy of Windows 7, and had previously changed the video card, AMD processor and hard drive. Yet Windows 7 revalidated fine after changing to the Z68 equipment. Obviously, YMMV. | My System Specs | | |
10-08-2011
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#8 | | Vista and Windows7, sometimes Ubuntu and Fedora |
Quote: having come from second generation mainframe stuff a long time ago Would be interesting to know which ones those were. I have done a few myself (IBM /650, 7070, 7090, 1400's, etc.) | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway - 2 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista and Windows7, sometimes Ubuntu and Fedora CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to 2.5GHz Quad Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse terrible devices, who wants them Hard Drives 5x HDD, 2x SSD, 6x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
10-08-2011
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#9 | | MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit |
Rogerfour,
Go for the gold. That is, no reinstall.
Don't be surprised when the only thing that often happens is that you will have to revalidate | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba Satellite L305D laptop OS MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit CPU AMD Athlon X2 Dual-Core QL-64, 2100 Mhz, 2 Cores Motherboard TOSHIBA Portable PC (Socket M2/S1G1) Memory 4.0GB (2x2GB) DDR2 @ 333MHz 5-5-5-15 Graphics Card ATI Radeon 3100 Graphics (Toshiba) Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Generic PnP Monitor @ 1280x800 Screen Resolution 1280 x 800 Keyboard standard PS/2 Keyboard Mouse HP Wireless Optical Mobile Mouse Model FHA-3410 Hard Drives 125.03GB Corsair CSSD-V128GB2 ATA Device (IDE)
Depending upon testing, organized as 1,2, or 3 partitions with/without a 100mb system partition at the front. Internet Speed What the local pub, local coffee shop offers. Other Info Optical Drives HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-T50N ATA Device
Synaptics PS/2 Port TouchPad
Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Atheros AR5007EG Wireless Network Adapter
Also have an Asus ha1002xp netbook with Win 7 Ultimate installed. |
10-09-2011
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#10 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 |
Rogerfour, you have received advice from Yes a complete install all the way to just plug it in and see what happens.
As long as you have all your data backed up and you have an image of your C drive.
It looks like it is go time. Give it a shot, nothing to lose and everything to gain.
Good luck.
Rich | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba Laptop(s) A505-S6979 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core 2 Dual P8700 Memory 4 Gigs Graphics Card ATI 4650 w1Gig Hard Drives 64Gig SSD for C
256Gig SSD for D Internet Speed 25/5 fios Other Info I have dos 6.22, wfwg 3.11, win98, 2000 and xp VHD's available for testing. MS's Virtual PC works great. Motherboard & CPU upgrade without re-install problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:26 AM. |  |