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Windows 7: Why has there been a lack of gaming/gamer oriented RAID cards?

20 Oct 2011   #21
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Beta View Post
Why has there been a lack of gaming/gamer oriented RAID cards? As the gaming community keeps wanting to push the boundaries of computers why has hardware manufactures met the demand for fast raid controllers that are dedicated and have there on CPU and on board RAM. You would think that someone would want to get into this such as Asus brand “Republic of Gamers.” Any thoughts?
Well, because the gains from an elaborate RAID setup in regards to gaming aren't spectacular. RAID setups, provide redundancy of data...unless of course you are talking about a RAID0 stripe which provides no data protection whatsoever.

Earlier people who were drawn to running RAID 0 arrays with Raptors and such were attempting to max out their sequential read/write speeds. And they simply didn't have many other choices at their disposal.

Real RAID cards are very expensive. And far less expensive SSD's make the RAID setups questionable at best. With SSD, you not only get 300+ MB/sec sequential read speeds, but you get 0.1ms access time to your files <---This right here is the key to great performance, very low random access times. You don't get nearly that low with RAID setups.


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20 Oct 2011   #22
Beta

Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 and Mac OS X 10.8.3
 
 

I just want to have everything of the MB that could slowdown the computer is anyway. What would be wrong with 4 Sata III SDD drives in Raid? They would be quick and you would see a read speed of around 1600 to 1800 MB/sec.
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20 Oct 2011   #23
stormy13
Microsoft MVP

Win 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Large expense for next to zero gain. You may end up being the first on the server with a setup like that, but if you were getting 60 FPS before adding the RAID you'll still be getting 60 FPS after.
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20 Oct 2011   #24
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Lets say you get a raid array with SSD and you hit 1500mb a second. Lets then say when you launch your game, the computer loads 400mb of data to get to menu. With a std hard drive at 100mb a seond, its a 4 second wait. A standard ssd at 300 mb a second loads it in just over 1 second. Your raid setup, finishes in .3 seconds. Well., if .7 seconds blows your mind then by all means, spend the money id instead save 1000 and deal with fractions of a single second.
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20 Oct 2011   #25
Beta

Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 and Mac OS X 10.8.3
 
 

Thats not what I am going for. I just want to see manufacures push themselfs and the first people they always market to is the gamers.
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21 Oct 2011   #26
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Mfg's aren't going to waste their time and build products like fancy RAID adapters geared towards gamers because at the end of the day the tech community will realize the miniscule gains and thus the cards won't sell to anybody but the foolish or the person who is obsessed with the absolute highest benchmark with no regards to cost. This isn't the ideal market for a product like this.

If there was a market and potential for income, these companies would be doing it.
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21 Oct 2011   #27
stormy13
Microsoft MVP

Win 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
thus the cards won't sell to anybody but the foolish or the person who is obsessed with the absolute highest benchmark with no regards to cost. This isn't the ideal market for a product like this.
Sort of like the KillerNIC.
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21 Oct 2011   #28
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by stormy13 View Post
Sort of like the KillerNIC.
Exactly, had a friend buy one of those. When he bought a new PC, he didn't buy another one.
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21 Oct 2011   #29
Beta

Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 and Mac OS X 10.8.3
 
 

I have a VisionTek Bigfoot Killer 2100 Gaming Network Card. Just look at my system specs. I love the card.
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21 Oct 2011   #30
stormy13
Microsoft MVP

Win 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

$130 of pure marketing. The conclusion here sums it up well,

Killer 2100 Performance Analysis and Conclusion | bit-tech.net

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It says a lot that it was so difficult for us to see any tangible difference from the Killer 2100 despite our best efforts to test in a scientific and consistent way. Even in our theoretical tests where we could control the variables of our local, private network we saw little benefit from the Killer 2100.

When gaming we saw little difference between our (free) on-board network controller and the Killer 2100 in terms of ping and frame rate. The only advantage we found was that the Killer 2100 allowed us to download in the background while gaming - possibly handy if you buy loads of games via download services but haven't the patience to wait for those downloads. This makes it very difficult to recommend the Killer 2100 as, at the end of the day, everyone wants some kind of tangible benefit for their 68
That card wasn't worth the money when it came out in 2006, and it still isn't worth it now.
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