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10-14-2011
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SSD drive? would anyone know how much faster the SSD drive OCZ 240GB Vertex %-wise than a regular HD? i've heard it is very fast. it is fairly expensive $400 also. and does anyone have one ? and would they recommend it? on another topic; i'm going to buy windows 7 64-bit home, from this store , they sell it for only $100, while another store sells it for $290. but i know that place i'm going to buy it from is a honest, reputable store. (the $100 one.) which should store i buy from? thank you
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number windows XP professional service pack 2 OS XP windows Professional CPU intel core 2 Duo/ E8400 3.00 Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte EP355-DS3 Memory 3.50 GB Graphics Card Gigabyte 512MB 8800GT Sound Card ? Monitor(s) Displays HP 2159m PSU ? Case CoolerMaster Centurion CAC-TO5 Cooling ? Hard Drives C: 400GB
D: 80GB
G: 100GB
H: 300GB |
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If you only want the extra speed, and have no intention of using all 240GB it's possible to get a smaller SSD and spend 2x less $$ with the same read write speeds. Personally I wouldn't need more than a 120GB for the C drive/OS partition. Maybe someone can comment on model specifics... | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x32 |
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit |
I can't answer your query on a new SSD so I'll leave that for the experts.
As for Windows, I would imagine the price you pay is determined by the version you choose.
I'm fairly certain the $100 version of Windows is an OEM DVD, whereas the $290 version will be a retail DVD.
An OEM version of Windows is tied to the computer it is first installed on and the EULA dictates that the software cannot be transferred to another computer. Also, Microsoft do not offer support for OEM software, you get that from the vendor who sold you the software.
A retail version of Windows can be transferred to another computer providing it is removed from the previous one first. Microsoft do offer support for the retail software.
OEM - Original Equipment Manufacturer
EULA - End User License Agreement | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion Elite 495UK OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit CPU Intel Core i7 870 @ 2.93GHz Motherboard MSI 2A9C (CPU1) Memory 8Gb Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 664MHz Graphics Card nVidia GeForce GTX 460 1024MB dedicated RAM Sound Card Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays HP2310i Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech K750 solar-powered keyboard Mouse Logitech Wireless M180 mouse PSU 460W Case HP Elite Cooling Air cooled Hard Drives 1x1954GB Hitachi HDS22020ALA 330 (RAID), 1x1954GB Hitachi External for backup and storage Internet Speed 2Mb Other Info Pure Avanti Flow Internet Radio with iPod Dock, 64Gb iPod, HP USB Speakers, Sony MDR-V500 Headphones, Sony Vaio F-Series Laptop |
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#4 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit |
Theres also a Upgrade version of Windows 7 thats around $120.
Its exactly the same as the full Retail version, except you must owna qualifying copy of a previous version of Windows.
It too can be moved to any other PC, provided its only installed and activated on 1 PC at any time.
YES a SSD is a huge difference from a spinning HD, and the best single performance upgrade you can make.
With SSDs, the most commom practice is using a smaller SSD for Windows and all your programs.
Then, on a regular HD store all your other DATA. Music, Videos, Pictures etc.
Even Games for that matter.
This gives you the best of both worlds.
A huge performance boost for Windows and Apps that gain lots of benefits from the SSD.
And, lots of Storage space on the mechanical drive for things which do not really benefit much from the extra speed.
I would recommend at least a 64GB or even 80GB SSD. Just keep Windows and you programs on it.
I ran a 40GB for a long time, and while it can be enough room, it can start getting cramped really quick.
Once you get used to a SSD, you'll not want to run Windwos on a spinning HD ever again. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom (Self Build) OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU Intel Core i7 2700k (4.5Ghz) Motherboard eVGA P67 SLI Memory 2x4GB Mushkin Redline Ridgebacks (@1866) Graphics Card EVGA GTX570 SuperClocked (1280MB) Sound Card XiFi Titanium HD Monitor(s) Displays LG W2453V Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Saitek Cyborg PSU Seasonic x750 Case Corsair 600T (SE White) Cooling eVGA Superclocked CPU Cooler Hard Drives [OS SSD]Intel 320 (80GB) -- Intel X25-V (40GB) --WD Black (1TB)x2 -- WD Blue (640GB) Other Info LG BD/DVD |
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Any SSD makes a huge difference. And it's because the random access time to any file on the hard drive is super fast. Most standard mechanical hard drives average 15ms or so to get to any particular piece of data on the hard drive. So, if you have a file that is heavily fragmented, the 15ms access for each piece of that file can really add up. Now, an SSD on the other hand can access anything, in any location on the drive in about 0.1ms. This makes a huge difference in loading speeds.
Benefits of my SSD - Silent
- Faster Bootup and Shutdown times
- No need to defrag
- Apps and Games launch almost instantly
- virus scans and malware scans finish in about 2 minutes
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/1 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
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#6 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
Here are various versions of Windows 7 Home Premium from a reliable dealer: Newegg.com - Software, Operating Systems, Home
OEM 64 bit is $100; this would include only the 64 bit disc and would be restricted to the hardware on which it is first installed. Microsoft support not included.
Retail version is $190. This includes 2 discs: 32 bit and 64 bit. This can be installed as many times as you like, but only on 1 machine at a time (not restricted to original hardware). This appears to be the "full" version. Microsoft support included, not that it means much.
Microsoft also sells a retail "upgrade" version, normally for a price between the above 2, but I don't see it currently available at Newegg.
You certainly DON'T need the "full" retail version if you own XP or Vista. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
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To answer the speed difference in real terms when you go to open Photoshop with a spinner it's a grab your cup of coffee take a careful sip cause it's hot then look for the remote and change the channel cause the station you were watching is now cartoons turn back and wonder how and why all those people warrant credits........man this isn't the end of a major movie then take another sip and spill it on yourself as you're shocked that the program is finally loaded.
With the SSD go right to spilling your coffee cause you blinked as you began reaching for the coffee and damn if it didn't load as you scream as the coffee landed in a sensitive area and out of joy for the move finally to a SSD! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number A blend of brains, brawn and dumb luck ! OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 CPU AMD 965 Phenom II X4 3.4 BE, OC'd stable at 4.1 Motherboard MSI 890FXA-GD70 Memory 16 gb G. Skill Z Series 2133 DDR3 9-10-9-28 @ 1866 Graphics Card (2) Crossfired MSI R5770 Hawk's OC'd Sound Card On board HD audio with lossless 24 bit/192 sample rate Monitor(s) Displays (2) LG LED 23" 1920 x 1080 2ms Monitors via hdmi/d-port Screen Resolution 1680 X 1050 p Keyboard (2) Logitech Illuminated Keyboards (1) usb (1) wireless K800 Mouse Logitech G9x & T-BC21 - nano nx for the laptop PSU Ultra X4 modular 1050 watt 80% silver rating & APC 1200 RS Case Thermaltake Element V Black Edition Cooling 15 case fans w/speed control,Corsair H100 in P/P, gpu fans Hard Drives (2) 128 gb Crucial m4 SSD drive sata III
(2) 1 tb Hitachi deskmates/sata
(1) 1 tb WD green/sata
(2) 2 tb WD My Book/esata
(1) 500 gb Seagate Freeagent/esata
(2) 250 gb Seagate Freeagent go's/usb
(1) 80 gb Seagate Barracuda/sata
(1) 64 gb Crucial C300 Internet Speed Some where between the worst and bearable Other Info 3 Noctua fans + 4 Noctua in p/p on H100 cooler
Ultra 2.5 dual hot swap drive bays for SSD's
(2) Lite-on dvd/cd optical 22X
Ultra MD3 media reader, IO ports & fan controller
HP Officejet Pro L7680 all-n-one
HP 4 laserjet (the beast)
Hot swappable 3.5" hard drive bay
Belkin Play N600 HD router
Asus USB 3 & sata 6 PCIe card
Vantec IDE to sata adptr./Ultra sata adptr
HP Probook i3 laptop |
10-14-2011
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#8 | | Vista and Windows7, sometimes Ubuntu and Fedora |
The performance advantage of an SSD is mainly in the access time. On average it is about 150 times faster than a spinning disk (0.1ms versus 15ms).
Data transfer rates are 3 to 4 times faster than with spinning disks.
As was said before, for the OS you really do not need 240GBs. A 60 ot 80GB SSD should suffice. I have 4 SSDs of that size and none is more than 50% full. I did, however, move my user data to the HDD.
If we are talking about a laptop with only one disk bay, the situation is a bit different because the SSD has to also contain the user data. Here it will depend on how much user data you have. On one of my laptops I installed a 90GB SSD and I have plenty of space left. I did though move some of my big video files to a 32GB stick.
The OCZ Vertex is a good choice. I have 3 (plus 2 Intels). Make sure you read the user comments on Newegg. There is a couple of specific models that have problems. For the OS, you can pick a Vertex2 model - even if you have Sata3 ports. They are cheaper and there will be no impact on OS performance. Reason is because the OS operates with 4K and 8K blocks and the transfer rate of those is well served at the Sata2 speeds.
PS: Just saw this - it is a good deal and Crucials are excellent: Best deals of the day
Last edited by whs; 10-14-2011 at 08:55 AM..
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway - 2 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista and Windows7, sometimes Ubuntu and Fedora CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to 2.5GHz Quad Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse terrible devices, who wants them Hard Drives 5x HDD, 2x SSD, 6x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
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#9 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 & Mac OS X 10.7.1 |
throw away any doubts about price! Ssd's are epically fast!
When the windows animation starts on start up, the 4 balls appear and then my computer is at desktop! If the was no bios posting and what not I'd recon boot to windows would be less than 5 seconds!
I have a corasir force 3 120gb and love it! I shall buy another once my rig is fully finished! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by badgers!!! OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 & Mac OS X 10.7.1 CPU Intel Core i5 2500k Motherboard Asus P8z68 Memory Corsair Vengence 8gb 1866mhz Graphics Card XFX Ati HD6950 2Gb Sound Card Mobo Optical to Yamaha Rx-V667 7.2 home cinema system Monitor(s) Displays Samsung LED 32" TV Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Saitek Cyborg V7 Mouse Saitek R.A.T 9 PSU Corsair HX650w Modular Case NZXT Phantom White Cooling Corsair H60 Push/Pull Hard Drives 120gb Corsair Force 3 SSD Internet Speed Too slow! Other Info AMD fusion E350N Home server-Windows Home Server 2011 (also made by badgers!)
2011 Macbook 2.4ghz Core2Duo, 4gb ddr3, 120gb Ocz Vertex SSD |
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#10 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 |
There is no comparing my old 250GB HDD to my Vertex 3 240GB. Like night and day.
7, all apps and games are on it. Windows boots in seconds (if startup animation was disabled then even faster). Games load in seconds. Everything loads in few seconds. Reads and writes are blazing fast. No stuttering, waiting at all.
Only thing is price (ouch!). | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1100T BE Motherboard ASUS M5A99X EVO Memory 12GB (Kingston 4GB & 8GB DDR3 1333MHz Kits) Graphics Card MSI GeForce N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II Sound Card ALC892, SB Audigy ES Monitor(s) Displays ViewSonic 24" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech Illuminated Mouse Logitech G400 on SteelSeries 4HD PSU Corsair Professional Series Gold AX850 Case Cooler Master HAF 932 Cooling Zalman CNPS10X Performa, CM 230mm, Titan 140mm PWM Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 3 240GB SATA III, Seagate Barracuda 500GB SATA II, Seagate Barracuda Green 2TB SATA III, Seagate Barracuda LP 2TB SATA II Other Info M-Audio Oxygen 25, Xbox 360 Wired Controller All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:33 AM. |  |