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Windows 7 - Advice sought - hardware upgrade |
10-15-2011
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#1 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1, LinuxMint 9 LTS x64, Debian 6, Ubuntu 10.04 LTS x64 |
Advice sought - hardware upgrade G'day,
I've promised myself to keep my new (2 yr old rig) upgraded and not let it slip into obscurity like my previous one.
I've decided to replace my graphics card and RAM as follows, and need some general advice/commentary on them: RAM
Currently, I have:
4 x Corsair 2GB VS2GB1333D3 1333MHz DDR3 RAM, non-ECC, 240-pin DIMM, CAS 9-9-9-24 = total 8GB
Since I bring lots of work home, I could do with more, faster RAM, and have decided on:
2 x Corsair 8GB CMZ8GX3M2A1600C8 (2x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz CL8 Unbuffered Venge Memory for AMD, Intel Dual Channel DDR3, 8-8-8-24, 1.5V = total 16GB
I've checked the Gigabyte website to determine the suitability of this RAM for my motherboard (P55A-UDR3), but their list is incomplete and very limited.
Can anyone offer any insights as to how good this RAM is? Is it suitable for my motherboard? Graphics Card
Currently, I have an NVidia GTS250. It runs perfectly fine, and I will on occasion play BF2. This card meets all my needs, but I want the ability to play soemthing a little bit more graphics strenuous should I choose.
I have 2 choices:
EVGA PCIe GTX550Ti OC 951MHz 1024MB GPU Clk: 951MHz, Shader Clk: 1903MHz
EVGA PCIe GTX560 1024MB GPU Clk: 810MHz, Shader Clk: 1620MHz
I run a dual monitor setup at 1920x1080.
Can anyone offer a comparsion between the two cards? I'm pretty confident both are a step-up from the GTS250.
Thanks,
Golden
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Golden Mk. I.3 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1, LinuxMint 9 LTS x64, Debian 6, Ubuntu 10.04 LTS x64 CPU Intel i7 860 @ 2.80 GHz Motherboard Gigabyte P55A-UD3R Rev.1. Award BIOS F13 Memory 16GB Corsair Vengance DDR3 @ 661 MHz Dual Channel (9-9-9-24) Graphics Card EVGA NVidia GTX 560 1024MB Sound Card Realtek Integrated Monitor(s) Displays Dual Samsung SyncMaster 2494HS Screen Resolution 1920*1080 and 1920*1080 Keyboard Logitech G110 Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU Thermaltake ToughPower QFan 750W Case Thermaltake Element S VK60001W2Z Cooling Corsair H60 Water Cooling, 2*230mm and 2*80mm case fans Hard Drives 1*OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD;
2*Samsung F3 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID0;
2*Samsung F1 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID1;
1*Western Digital WD10EARS 1TB
1*Western Digital 500GB External USB 3.0
1*Seagate 500GB External USB 2.0 Internet Speed Not fast enough!!! |
10-15-2011
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 & Mac OS X 10.7.1 |
the CMZ8GX3M2A1600C8 ram is similar to mine but i have the 1866mhz version. All i will suggest is with asus boards you need to increase the rams voltage from 1.5v to 1.65v to get the ram to run at that speed. as if it not it will only run at 1333mhz.
oddly crucial memory site only has a very short list of RAM. so cant suggest anything there. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by badgers!!! OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 & Mac OS X 10.7.1 CPU Intel Core i5 2500k Motherboard Asus P8z68 Memory Corsair Vengence 8gb 1866mhz Graphics Card XFX Ati HD6950 2Gb Sound Card Mobo Optical to Yamaha Rx-V667 7.2 home cinema system Monitor(s) Displays Samsung LED 32" TV Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Saitek Cyborg V7 Mouse Saitek R.A.T 9 PSU Corsair HX650w Modular Case NZXT Phantom White Cooling Corsair H60 Push/Pull Hard Drives 120gb Corsair Force 3 SSD Internet Speed Too slow! Other Info AMD fusion E350N Home server-Windows Home Server 2011 (also made by badgers!)
2011 Macbook 2.4ghz Core2Duo, 4gb ddr3, 120gb Ocz Vertex SSD |
10-15-2011
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#3 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
You could try a post on the Corsair Forum re suitability/compatibility. I'm not sure that any answer you get would be authoritative, however. The Corsair Support Forums - Powered by vBulletin
If you are not wedded to Corsair, here is Crucial's list of RAM for your board: http://www.crucial.com/store/listpar...A-UD3R&Cat=RAM
Crucial shows no 8 GB sticks. I notice that the Crucial stuff varies in voltage from 1.35 to as high as 1.65.
What voltage is your current Corsair?? Generally, I'd try to get something with that same voltage as you already know it will work on your board.
Yeah, those manufacturer qualified RAM lists are near useless because they are always highly incomplete.
I expect any advantage you see from moving from 8 to 16 gigs of RAM will be due to the sheer increase in quantity, as opposed to it being "faster". I don't think "faster" stuff is likely to be a factor other than in a benchmark. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
10-15-2011
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1, LinuxMint 9 LTS x64, Debian 6, Ubuntu 10.04 LTS x64 |
Thanks Ignatz.
My current Corsair is 1.5v according to Speccy. Thats why I opted for Corsair (by the way those are 4GB sticks, not 8GB).
I did a search on the Corsair page, and it came up with this: http://www2.corsair.com/configurator...spx?id=1106037 | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Golden Mk. I.3 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1, LinuxMint 9 LTS x64, Debian 6, Ubuntu 10.04 LTS x64 CPU Intel i7 860 @ 2.80 GHz Motherboard Gigabyte P55A-UD3R Rev.1. Award BIOS F13 Memory 16GB Corsair Vengance DDR3 @ 661 MHz Dual Channel (9-9-9-24) Graphics Card EVGA NVidia GTX 560 1024MB Sound Card Realtek Integrated Monitor(s) Displays Dual Samsung SyncMaster 2494HS Screen Resolution 1920*1080 and 1920*1080 Keyboard Logitech G110 Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU Thermaltake ToughPower QFan 750W Case Thermaltake Element S VK60001W2Z Cooling Corsair H60 Water Cooling, 2*230mm and 2*80mm case fans Hard Drives 1*OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD;
2*Samsung F3 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID0;
2*Samsung F1 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID1;
1*Western Digital WD10EARS 1TB
1*Western Digital 500GB External USB 3.0
1*Seagate 500GB External USB 2.0 Internet Speed Not fast enough!!! |
10-15-2011
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#5 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
Any reason not to go with what the Corsair page said?? CMX16GX3M4A1600C9 Module
They say "Guaranteed-Compatible Memory for your Gigabyte GA-P55-UD3R", for whatever that is worth.
It's DDR3-1600 (XMS3-9-9-9-24*1.5v)
That seems to differ from what you had picked out: CMZ8GX3M2A1600C8. which is CAS 9-9-9-24 also.
Looks like they are very similar, but I'd of course lean toward the one on the Corsair page due to their "guaranteed-compatible" claim. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
10-15-2011
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#6 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X86 SP1 |
I think I grabbe the right page for your mobo... Google Translate
It says it supports DDR3-2200MHz RAM. Either the 1600 or the 2200 would give you some noticeable boost, I would pick the fastest I can use. With RAM faster frequencies are as much of a performance kick as a lower CAS. CAS 9 is the most common with these RAM speeds but the higher speed should make up for it.
Corsair is a very good brand, I have some in the wife's PC, Gskill in mine. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Brittechnologies II OS Windows 7 Ultimate X86 SP1 CPU i5-2550K differing speeds depending on the day Motherboard ASUS P8X68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB G.Skill Sniper 2133MHz, 4X4GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Onboard Realtek 5-1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570HD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Old Dell USB From 10 yrs Ago Mouse Gigabyte m6900 wired PSU Corsair HX650W Case Inwin Dragon rider Cooling Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans @1300 RPM Hard Drives TBA Internet Speed 8-19 Mbs down, 3-4 Mbs up Comcast Cable Other Info 5 fans, LG Bluray/R/RE, ASUS DVD/R/RW |
10-15-2011
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#7 | | |
I'll be honest, I don't think you will see any performance increase based on your RAM upgrade aside from a benchmarking tool. Going from 8GB to 16GB won't provide much benefit either unless you are doing some high end video editing or running concurrent virtual machines.
With regards to your video card, I just upgraded myself from a 9800GTX+ (which is more or less the same as a GTS250). I went to an Nvidia 570GTX setup. I'm very happy with my upgrade. My performance for BF3 Beta went up substantially and the noise from my box went down. I run a single monitor at 1920x1080. You might want to try to find a 560TI...those are very solid cards as well. It was a close decision between a 560ti and my 570. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/1 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
10-15-2011
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#8 | | Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bit |
Quote: EVGA PCIe GTX560 1024MB GPU Clk: 810MHz, Shader Clk: 1620MHz This one. Of the two you listed.
The other two pparks pointed out would also be great choices.
Anyway the 560 would be my choice of the two you listed. 
Mike | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Hopalong/ Godzilla OS Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bit CPU Intel Core i7-870 Lynnfield 2.93GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Motherboard ASUS P7P55D-E PRO Memory 8GB@1400MHz Crucial Ballistix DDR3-1600 4x2GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 Sound Card VIA Onboard Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 941BW 19"ws Screen Resolution 1440x900 Keyboard Logitech K-320 PSU COOLER MASTER Silent Pro RS850-AMBAJ3-US 850W Modular Case COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN5-GP Black Cooling Scythe "Mugen-2 Rev.B" (2 ScytheKaze-Jyuni PWM fans) Hard Drives Intel 320 120GB SSD
Western Digital Caviar Black WD7501AALS 750GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s |
10-15-2011
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#9 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1, LinuxMint 9 LTS x64, Debian 6, Ubuntu 10.04 LTS x64 |
Thanks for the replies fella's.
@Ignatz : I only found the Corsair page after you posted the Crucual page, so yes, I will go with the Corsair page recommendation.
@Britton : Thanks. The 1600 will be a nice boost up from the 1333.
@pparks : Some of the work I do involves simulation. The application I use will use as much RAM as I can throw at it. More RAM allows me to run more of these simulations in the same time. See Problems with RAM?
@pparks and hopper : Thanks for the card recommendations. It looks like its the 560 then.
Thanks again fella's. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Golden Mk. I.3 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1, LinuxMint 9 LTS x64, Debian 6, Ubuntu 10.04 LTS x64 CPU Intel i7 860 @ 2.80 GHz Motherboard Gigabyte P55A-UD3R Rev.1. Award BIOS F13 Memory 16GB Corsair Vengance DDR3 @ 661 MHz Dual Channel (9-9-9-24) Graphics Card EVGA NVidia GTX 560 1024MB Sound Card Realtek Integrated Monitor(s) Displays Dual Samsung SyncMaster 2494HS Screen Resolution 1920*1080 and 1920*1080 Keyboard Logitech G110 Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU Thermaltake ToughPower QFan 750W Case Thermaltake Element S VK60001W2Z Cooling Corsair H60 Water Cooling, 2*230mm and 2*80mm case fans Hard Drives 1*OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD;
2*Samsung F3 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID0;
2*Samsung F1 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID1;
1*Western Digital WD10EARS 1TB
1*Western Digital 500GB External USB 3.0
1*Seagate 500GB External USB 2.0 Internet Speed Not fast enough!!! |
10-17-2011
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#10 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1, LinuxMint 9 LTS x64, Debian 6, Ubuntu 10.04 LTS x64 |
Thanks again guys. EVGA NVidia GTX560 and 16GB Corsair Vengeance 1600 RAM Installed | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Golden Mk. I.3 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1, LinuxMint 9 LTS x64, Debian 6, Ubuntu 10.04 LTS x64 CPU Intel i7 860 @ 2.80 GHz Motherboard Gigabyte P55A-UD3R Rev.1. Award BIOS F13 Memory 16GB Corsair Vengance DDR3 @ 661 MHz Dual Channel (9-9-9-24) Graphics Card EVGA NVidia GTX 560 1024MB Sound Card Realtek Integrated Monitor(s) Displays Dual Samsung SyncMaster 2494HS Screen Resolution 1920*1080 and 1920*1080 Keyboard Logitech G110 Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU Thermaltake ToughPower QFan 750W Case Thermaltake Element S VK60001W2Z Cooling Corsair H60 Water Cooling, 2*230mm and 2*80mm case fans Hard Drives 1*OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD;
2*Samsung F3 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID0;
2*Samsung F1 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID1;
1*Western Digital WD10EARS 1TB
1*Western Digital 500GB External USB 3.0
1*Seagate 500GB External USB 2.0 Internet Speed Not fast enough!!! Advice sought - hardware upgrade problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:34 AM. |  |