| Windows 7: my 750 GB HD shows only 698 GB |
18 Oct 2011
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my 750 GB HD shows only 698 GB Hi, I just got a new HD and tried to just plug it in on my old HD with Windows 7 but I can't find it anywhere no meter that it get recognized and installed at the beginning, I tried to install my old XP and it shows only 698 GB on the other hand Windows 7 shows 715GB.This HD is 750GB.And shouldn't those anti static bags that they(HD) are packed be closed hermetical instead this HD was with a bag that was just folded and glued with duck tape (made of paper) with a "made in china" letters! | My System Specs |
| OS w7 CPU pentium duall core cpu e5300 @ 2.60ghz Motherboard asrock g 41m-s Memory 3gb Graphics Card ati radeon 4350 hd Monitor(s) Displays philips HD 23ie full hd Screen Resolution full hd Hard Drives western digital sata 2 Internet Speed 10 mbps-765 kbps |
18 Oct 2011
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#2 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit SP 1 |
698GB = 714,752 MB = 731,906,048 KB = 749,471,793,152 B
I hope it is normal. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Assembled OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit SP 1 CPU Intel Core i3 2120 @ 3.30GHz Motherboard Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. H61M-DS2 DVI Memory Corsair 2GB x2 (Single-Channel DDR3 @ 665MHz) Graphics Card 2047MB GeForce GTS 450 (ZOTAC International) Sound Card Onboard (Realtek High Definition Audio) Monitor(s) Displays LG Flatron E2040T Screen Resolution 1600x900 Keyboard Logitech MK220 Mouse Logitech MK220 PSU uMAX 750 watt. Case iBall Cooling Air/ Fans Hard Drives Western Digital 1 TB
Seagate 500 GB Internet Speed BSNL Broadband Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Waterfox Other Info Dell Studio 15" Laptop |
18 Oct 2011
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#3 | | Windows 7 Professional SP1 32-bit Fantasyland |
It's one of the oldest marketing tricks in the book...harddisk manufacturers round their numbers on a 1:1000 basis, i.e. your HD really holds 750,000,000,000 bytes - which to them means 750,000,000 KB or 750,000 MB or 750 GB.
But one KB really is 1024 bytes, one MB is 1024 KB and one GB is 1024 MB. So the actual size of your harddisk comes out to 750,000,000,000 byes = 732,421,875 KB = about 715,255 MB = about 698 GB.
Windows XP's setup was showing you the correct size. I'm surprised that the Windows 7 install would show 715GB, unless for some weird reason it took the amount of 715,255MB and just made 715GB out of it by chopping the lower 3 digits off. (That would really surprise me though and might even be a bug, albeit a harmless one.)
Regarding the antistatic bag, no worries. I've bought a lot of new HDs over time and some came completely sealed, some just with a flap and tape. And many drives are manufactured in Malaysia and similar places, that's normal. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom-built OS Windows 7 Professional SP1 32-bit CPU Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4GHz, overclocked to 2.7GHz Motherboard Asus PL5D2 Memory 4GB DDR2-667 (4x1GB in dual-channel config) Graphics Card nVidia GeForce 9800 GT Sound Card Creative X-Fi XtremeMusic Monitor(s) Displays Acer Screen Resolution 1920x1200 (DVI) Keyboard Standard Mouse Microsoft wireless optical mouse PSU Antec TruePower 2.0 Case Cooler Master Centurion Cooling various fans Hard Drives OCZ SSD Vertex Plus 60GB SATA (Firmware 3.55), 64MB cache
Hitachi HD321KJ SATA, 320GB, 7200rpm, 16MB cache Internet Speed DSL; ~330KB/sec down, ~110KB/sec up Other Info Have a laptop too :) (Compaq CQ60 also with Win7 Pro SP1 32-bit)
Drives in both systems:
C: - Windows 7 + apps. Pagefile is fixed size and located at the very end of the partition.
D: - various temp files/cache for Firefox and apps/games.
E: - videos, music, misc. storage, torrent downloads, etc. |
18 Oct 2011
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Hampton VA |
| My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by me OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7-950 (3.06GHz) OC to 3.8GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 rev 1, F6 Bios Memory 12 gig Corsair DDR3 Dominator GT Memory (3X 4GB) Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD6950 2gig (Sapphire) Sound Card X-Fi Titanium Fatality Pro Monitor(s) Displays HP ZR22w 22" LCD Monitor Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech Wireless Wave Mouse Logitech Performance MX PSU Antec Signature - SG-850 Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Noctua NH-C12P SE14 Hard Drives Primary - OCZ Vertex 4 SSD (256GB). Storage - OCZ Vertex 2 SSD (120GB) & 2TB WD Caviar Black. Internet Speed High Speed Cable Other Info Memory Timings - 1600MHz @ 8-8-8-20-1T @ 1.640 volts |
18 Oct 2011
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#5 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit SP 1 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Corazon
I'm surprised that the Windows 7 install would show 715GB There may be a reason , I guess Quote: Capacity - 750GB unformatted / 715GB Formatted source : Seagate Momentus 750GB Review (ST9750420AS) | StorageReview.com | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Assembled OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit SP 1 CPU Intel Core i3 2120 @ 3.30GHz Motherboard Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. H61M-DS2 DVI Memory Corsair 2GB x2 (Single-Channel DDR3 @ 665MHz) Graphics Card 2047MB GeForce GTS 450 (ZOTAC International) Sound Card Onboard (Realtek High Definition Audio) Monitor(s) Displays LG Flatron E2040T Screen Resolution 1600x900 Keyboard Logitech MK220 Mouse Logitech MK220 PSU uMAX 750 watt. Case iBall Cooling Air/ Fans Hard Drives Western Digital 1 TB
Seagate 500 GB Internet Speed BSNL Broadband Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Waterfox Other Info Dell Studio 15" Laptop |
18 Oct 2011
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#6 | | Windows 7 Professional SP1 32-bit Fantasyland |
Aha. That capacity quote is misleading, though, since it assumes an actual capacity of 750GB which we've already disproven - otherwise, the drive would really have 805,306,368,000 bytes of storage space.
However, it is true that the formatted capacity will be even less, since every filesystem (not just NTFS) uses a small amount of the partition space for its own metadata. It's not much at all though, so on a 698GB partition you can probably expect roughly 697GB of free space available to you. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom-built OS Windows 7 Professional SP1 32-bit CPU Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4GHz, overclocked to 2.7GHz Motherboard Asus PL5D2 Memory 4GB DDR2-667 (4x1GB in dual-channel config) Graphics Card nVidia GeForce 9800 GT Sound Card Creative X-Fi XtremeMusic Monitor(s) Displays Acer Screen Resolution 1920x1200 (DVI) Keyboard Standard Mouse Microsoft wireless optical mouse PSU Antec TruePower 2.0 Case Cooler Master Centurion Cooling various fans Hard Drives OCZ SSD Vertex Plus 60GB SATA (Firmware 3.55), 64MB cache
Hitachi HD321KJ SATA, 320GB, 7200rpm, 16MB cache Internet Speed DSL; ~330KB/sec down, ~110KB/sec up Other Info Have a laptop too :) (Compaq CQ60 also with Win7 Pro SP1 32-bit)
Drives in both systems:
C: - Windows 7 + apps. Pagefile is fixed size and located at the very end of the partition.
D: - various temp files/cache for Firefox and apps/games.
E: - videos, music, misc. storage, torrent downloads, etc. |
18 Oct 2011
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#7 | | Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 Australia |
I'm still puzzled (just curious actually). The review says that but I don't see it on the Seagate spec sheet. All my disks in disk management read the raw bytes just taking the binary conversion into account. I don't know what formatting has got to do with it. What you stick on the disk (eg. file system) is up to you.
Sometimes 1 TB might be slightly larger than 1x10^9 bytes. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (+ Recased Acer Aspire x1800) OS Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 CPU Intel i7 2600k Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Memory G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+) Monitor(s) Displays Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech MK520 (wireless) Mouse Logitech MK520 PSU Seasonic M12II 520W Case Lian Li Lancool PC-K60 Cooling Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+ Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB (000F), Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS + Internet Speed 6-7 Mbps Antivirus Norton NIS, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC) Browser FireFox Other Info Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1 |
18 Oct 2011
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CORASON "Windows XP's setup was showing you the correct size. I'm surprised that the Windows 7 install would show 715GB, unless for some weird reason it took the amount of 715,255MB and just made 715GB out of it by chopping the lower 3 digits off. (That would really surprise me though and might even be a bug, albeit a harmless one.)"
Ok, this, about a bug, can you elaborate more, please?Is it possible that a brand new HD have bugs or you meant that my Windows 7 has a bug?!
I must say, I'm quite disappointed, you buy 750gb and get 50gb less, thats very stupid, its 50gb, isn't better just to say the truth and not lie, I mean if they lie about the capacity than what are they lying more about?
And what about the installation? why couldn't I find the new HD?It wouldn't show on "my computer" how am I suppose to find it.I want to use this HD as storage like one partition using my old HD and its Windows 7 I can't buy another Windows 7.
And just one more question: how do you calculate how much do you actually get from HD of 750gb?
Last edited by akvaman; 18 Oct 2011 at 03:46 PM..
| My System Specs | | OS w7 CPU pentium duall core cpu e5300 @ 2.60ghz Motherboard asrock g 41m-s Memory 3gb Graphics Card ati radeon 4350 hd Monitor(s) Displays philips HD 23ie full hd Screen Resolution full hd Hard Drives western digital sata 2 Internet Speed 10 mbps-765 kbps |
18 Oct 2011
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If you will look at the fine print on the packaging the HD came in, it will probably say something to the effect: 1GB = 1,000,000,000 bytes. If so, they're not lying. Even if it's not there, they have been pulling this trick for at least 20 years - it's become "common knowledge."
750,000,000,000 bytes = 698.49 REAL gigabytes
The "bug" referred to isn't really a bug. All he was saying was that Windows might have been programmed by Microsoft to show a less than accurate number. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Acer Aspire 7750G-9657 OS Win 7 Pro x64 CPU i7 2630QM @ 2Ghz Memory 6 GB Graphics Card Mobile Intel HD / Radeon 6650M Screen Resolution 1600x900 Mouse Logitech M305 USB Wireless Mouse Case Laptop Hard Drives Toshiba 750GB Internet Speed Whatever I can get for free. :) |
18 Oct 2011
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#10 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 X64/ linux in VM NW Florida |
Advertised vs actual size of hard drives
To make it simple advertised size is the GB advertised X 0.9313226 = actual size
In your case advertised size 750GB X 0.9313226 = 698.49195GB | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built- Always under construction OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 X64/ linux in VM CPU Intel i7-3770K Motherboard Asus Maximus V Extreme Z77 Memory 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws Z DDR3-2400 (2X4GB) Graphics Card EVGA GTX 670 SC 4GB Sound Card On Board Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24" LCD Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech G500 PSU CORSAIR AX850 Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Custom Water Cooling Hard Drives Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB, Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB, Samsung 830 256GB, Samsung HD103SJ 1TB . External HD- Black X dock esata 1TB Samsung Spinpoint, Rosewill USB 3.0 dock 1TB Samsung Spinpoint Internet Speed carrier pigeon speed Antivirus MSE/MBAM Browser ie8 Other Info 2nd Rig,Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 X64, i7-2600K, Asrock P67 Extreme 4, 8GB DDR3-2133, HAF XM case, Noctua NH-D14, Gigabyte HD6950 OC 1GB, 2 X Crucial M4 128GB, Asus 24" LED.
Laptop- Samsung RF711-SO1 17" i5-2310M, 8GB DDR3-1333, Crucial M4 and OCZ vertex2, Nvidia GT540M.Win 7 HP X64 SP1. my 750 GB HD shows only 698 GB problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:45 AM. | |